Haven't read all these posts...But just chiming in:
+ Thomas Aquinas was never 'SSPX Resistance', he is a Benedictine monk . I would think that those who join his monastery sign some "Agreement " papers, no?? He has no jurisdiction...am I correct on this? I admire + Thomas because he was probably the first to "resist" and quit le Barroux when Dom Gerard shook hands with novus ordo Rome. The situation was deteriorating already in 1986.
Also, when + Lefebvre ordained his seminarians, they made a "PROMISE" to obey him. A promise is not a vow... +Lefebvre died, who are the priests that replace the initial authority?... Everyone is Vagus... ie. No jurisdiction. He mentions below that he does not follow +L, or +Castro Mayer, per se, but Holy Mother Church.
Some article about + Thomas below:
AI Translation. I can't proofread, sorry.
Short Excerpt. not in order...Might be errors. Check with original is you have questions. Worthwhile reading for sure..he was
T H E Pioneer, so to speak.
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https://www.dominicainsavrille.fr/presentation-du-pere-thomas-daquin-o-s-b/"...Thanks to the notes he used to write after each interview, Father Thomas Aquinas gives us some enlightening words of Archbishop Lefebvre:
To be subject to men who do not have the integrity of the Catholic faith? Submit to men who proclaim principles contrary to the principles of the Church? Either we will be forced to break up with them again and the situation will become worse than before, or we will be led insensitively to the diminution and loss of faith. There is another third possibility. A very difficult life because of frequent contact with men who do not have the Catholic faith, leading to the disorientation and diminishing of the fighting spirit of the faithful. Our position, as it is now, allows us to remain united in faith. All those who wanted to compromise with the modernists have deviated. I think we should not submit to them. I'm very suspicious. I spend nights thinking about that. We are not the ones who have to sign something. They are the ones who must sign, ensuring that they accept the doctrine of the Church. They want our submission, but they do not give us the doctrine
.[7]The RP Thomas d’Aquin also noted that in 1984 or 1985, Dom Gérard went to Rome to deal with the regularization of the monastery of Barroux:
He then saw Cardinal Ratzinger and came back dazzled. “The cardinal,” he said, “is someone with whom one can work. Archbishop Lefebvre is too enclosed. And he imitated the attitude of Monseigneur as someone who sulks in his corner. “By the way, it is not necessary for Archbishop Lefebvre to order our priests. Another bishop may as well do it, provided it is with the old ritual. “We were cold in the back hearing all this. [...] End 86 I went to Brazil with Father Joseph Vannier to see a land in view of a foundation. I was a little relieved to leave the Barroux whose atmosphere was getting heavier and heavier. We felt the monastery sliding on a bad slope
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On 3 May 1987 the Monastery of the Holy Cross (Santa Cruz) was officially founded and Father Thomas Aquinas became the prior. The monastery is located very close to Nova Friburgo, a town located in a mountainous region of the north-central state of Rio de Janeiro. The new foundation’s relations with Le Barroux deteriorated rapidly as reported by Dom Thomas d’Aquinas:
Then came the years of the Santa Cruz Foundation, during which Bishop Lefebvre helped us with his valuable advice. My conscience was inconvenient because of the liturgical modifications introduced by Dom Gérard at Mass. [...] I wrote to Bishop Lefebvre, who, while not approving Dom Gérard, advised me above all to keep good relations with the Monastery of France, Le Barroux. But these good relations with our monastery in France were not going to last long. Dom Gérard, after the consecrations, will make an agreement that will put our monasteries under the authority of the modernists
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Father Thomas d’Aquin followed the advice of Archbishop Lefebvre. On 24 August 1988 he drafted a solemn declaration in which he refused the agreement established between the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in the person of Cardinals Ratzinger and Mayer, and Dom Gérard Calvet, Prior of the Monastery of Sainte Madeleine du Barroux:
Our Monastery da Santa Cruz was included in the terms of the agreement we come here to refuse, without us having been consulted on this subject, although we were at the Barroux during the negotiations and we knew our disagreement. Here are the reasons for our refusal:
1- This agreement means our insertion and practical commitment in the “conciliar Church”. [...]
2- The agreement provides for our full reconciliation with the Apostolic See according to the terms of the Motu Proprio “Ecclesia Dei”, a docuмent that proclaimed the excommunication of Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre. Now we have never separated ourselves from the Apostolic See and we will continue to profess perfect communion with the Chair of Peter. On the other hand, we separate ourselves from the modernist and liberal Rome that organizes the meeting of Assisi and praises Luther. With this Rome we do not want reconciliation.
3- The agreement is based on the Motu Proprio “Ecclesia Dei” which excommunicates Monsignor Lefebvre. Therefore, by taking part in this agreement, we must recognize the injustice exercised towards Monsignor Lefebvre, Dom Antônio de Castro Mayer and the four new bishops, whose excommunication was null and void. We do not follow Monseigneur de Castro Mayer or Monseigneur Lefebvre as leaders. We follow the Catholic Church. But at present, these two confessors of the Faith have been the only bishops against the self-demolition of the Church. It is not possible for us to disassociate ourselves from them
.[14]The next day, August 25, Father Thomas Aquinas announced his decision to the monks and on 26, he sent the declaration to Dom Gérard and Cardinal Ratzinger. The arrival of Dom Gérard at the Monastery of Santa Cruz, on September 1 and 2, did not change the decision and determination of Father Thomas Aquinas. After only a few hours, which were very painful, the Prior of the Barroux left the monastery of Brazil, the curse on the lips...
"...The RP Thomas d’Aquin also noted that in 1984 or 1985, Dom Gérard went to Rome to deal with the regularization of the monastery of Barroux:
He then saw Cardinal Ratzinger and came back dazzled. “The cardinal,” he said, “is someone with whom one can work. Archbishop Lefebvre is too enclosed. And he imitated the attitude of Monseigneur as someone who sulks in his corner. “By the way, it is not necessary for Archbishop Lefebvre to ordain our priests. Another bishop may as well do it, provided it is with the old ritual. “We were cold in the back hearing all this. [...] End 86 I went to Brazil with Father Joseph Vannier to see a land in view of a foundation. I was a little relieved to leave the Barroux whose atmosphere was getting heavier and heavier. We felt the monastery sliding on a bad slope
.[8]On 3 May 1987 the Monastery of the Holy Cross (Santa Cruz) was officially founded and Father Thomas Aquinas became the prior. The monastery is located very close to Nova Friburgo,...
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Quo Primum authorizes the use of St. Pius V Missal till the end of time, it is what it is, celebrated without scruples, penalties etc etc.
St. Joseph, protector, pray for us.
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