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Author Topic: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)  (Read 1712 times)

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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #55 on: Today at 04:40:42 AM »
What about Bp. Sanborn’s Sedeprivationism?  I do not thoroughly understand it, but what I do grasp of it is sort of a middle ground between R & R and absolute Sedevacantism.  The only thing that concerns me is that I’ve yet to see a string basis in Tradition or Scripture.

I’m not #3, neither able to support the heresies of the Conciliar Church, the novus ordo, nor am I the blind follower of a vagus guru, a cult of personality. I have read dozens of books, but I certainly don’t consider myself an ecclesiastical scholar! 

I unfortunately see a parallel between a few devoted followers of Archbishop LeFebvre (May he Rest In Peace) and the more fanatical members of Chabad, (the 770 tunnelers!), who are still awaiting their deceased Rebbe, Menachem Schneerson, to rise bodily from his grave in Queens, NY and proclaim himself the Moschiach. 


Why does it matter?
The resistance distances itself from Rome anyway.
Many who proclaim loyalty ignore certain important things he said and did.
He wasn't sede BUT he did not dismiss it the way Bishop Aquinas did.
And fyi, bishop Williamson saw bishop vigano frequently even AFTER he conditionally consecrated him

Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #56 on: Today at 04:44:45 AM »
Don't agree.  There are many priests who are vagus in that they refuse obedience and fraternal formation.

Many independent priest like to imagine they are functioning as their own "resistance", but they are not.  They are vagus.

Whatever one might think of the SSPX's priest and the SSPV, they have this obedience and fraternal formation.

If you don't align with the resistance episcopal line in anyway, why are you concerning yourself with our business?

Maybe go talk to the other ladies about knitting in that part of the forum


Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #57 on: Today at 05:52:01 AM »
Two doubt's/remarks:
1) it's not completely true that going to a resistance seminary you will be vagus or Dominican... We may love , hate, disagree with ... the Sajm, but as dysfunctional as some people judge it, it is still a structure you can belong to, and which was created precisely to avoid seminarians to become vagi...
2) I am pretty sure no priest from Bp Faure's seminary joined the Dominican ...

Regarding #1, the sajm actually has several of these seminarians ordained priests who are doing their priestly apostolate, as sajm members, not vagi...
What is it about the Sajm that makes it so its priests are not vagi?

Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #58 on: Today at 09:29:30 AM »
What is it about the Sajm that makes it so its priests are not vagi?
Exactly

Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #59 on: Today at 09:39:45 AM »
Here’s being privy to all the details.

Brazil is a huge Catholic country with tons of Tradition minded Catholics. Chapels for Tradition are in at least half the states. But most of those chapels don’t even have a normal monthly mass.

Did you happen to see how many times Bishop Williamson came to Brazil? Specifically to the Holy Cross Monastery? At least 5 times I met him there. Each time he was doing Episcopal things. At first he came to confirm the faithful. Tons of faithful. My wife was one of them. I was there.

Then, finally, he gave Brazil a bishop and we thought the situation would improve!

It has not! And I can guess why!

Everytime a group of two or three priests form, the split up. Break apart and even leave the country sometimes.

The first to do this after the resistance was Fr. Cardozo. But this was preceded by the then Fr. Thomas Aquinas splitting with the other Benedictines and the SSPX….why? Was it principle or was it because Bishop De Galerretta was not someone the Holy Cross Monastery wanted to submit to? Fair enough. I can understand that. But when the pattern is that the Holy Cross Monastery gets along with almost no other priests and only asserts authority, I check out.

By their fruits you will know them. Well, they aren’t doing a good job getting the sacraments to Brazil in my opinion. And what I mean is that Brazil needs a coordinated group of priests. Not one bishop banning other priests from offering Mass to the Faithful.