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Author Topic: Brazilian Resistance Seminary Now SAJM  (Read 2794 times)

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Re: Brazilian Resistance Seminary Now SAJM
« Reply #35 on: Today at 04:34:46 PM »
My only disagreement with what the SAJM-Brazil is doing is how they assert supplied jurisdiction as a means of banning other priests and using it as a means to establish authority over faithful. Supplied jurisdiction could never be used to prohibit the sacraments or monopolize the Faith. The phrase “supplied authority” is even used, a novel idea at best.

In previous Brazilian dissenting there were differences of opinions regarding the crisis. So the different groups used the different positions to drive a wedge between the Faithful and keep their groups from receiving the sacraments from other priests during the weeks (or months) between Mass.

What is interesting now is that you have the same priests, all of the same Resistance position, asserting supplied jurisdiction as if it gave them the authority to prohibit the Faithful from receiving the Sacraments from other resistance priests who share the exact same positions.

I believe this showcases some of the problems that the Brazilian Resistance Catholics have experienced and why Brazil, a country with many Traditionally minded youth and surely as many vocations, has struggled to even form a group of more than two or three priests to spread the Faith throughout the vast country and most importantly, bring the Sacraments.
Wow thanks for sharing that attachment Centro.

I didn't know about this. Fr neiss is a great priest.

In a strange way I am glad they have made this public because now we can talk about it. If we had come out and criticized before, they would have been the first to accuse us of being like Pfeiffer and hewko.

Of course the hilarious irony is that it is precisely one of the main objections of Greg Taylor to Bishop Williamson, is that our late good Bishop would not start hierarchies, where people were told what to do.

This ideological difference has been boiling under the surface since the beginning of the resistance.

I'm glad it has come out, and hate to say it, but will be a bit relieved if there is a split because us die hard "Williamsonsites" can be left alone by those wanting to recreate the sspx.

Re: Brazilian Resistance Seminary Now SAJM
« Reply #36 on: Today at 04:43:22 PM »
"Obliged under canon law " like what ? Like the obligation to not be on his own and to be under a diocesan bishop or a religious (or assimilated) superior ? This is just canon law, not something extra...
I do agree with a lot you said on pushing that too much and the evil side of some kind of sectarian spirit, and I also agree that priests who without fault of their own were thrown out, or had to leave their diocese/congregation/society would have valid reasons , for a higher purpose, to not follow this purely canonical prescription, but the case is different for young seminarians who start their priestly life: they were not thrown out of something, they have no excuse to not follow canon law, even when it prescribes you to be under someone...


Being under a bishop is not the only thing canon law talks about


Re: Brazilian Resistance Seminary Now SAJM
« Reply #37 on: Today at 04:48:15 PM »
Just putting a Gemini translation of the attachment so people know what I am referring to...


PAX
Communiqué from H.E.R. Dom Tomás de Aquino O.S.B.
Since R.P. Deivid Nass has chosen to no longer depend on us or be under our guidance, we consider ourselves, therefore, released from all responsibility for his acts and his person.
We hope that his new superior, Dom Paul Morgan, can guide him in the best possible way. Dom Morgan, as he himself told me in a telephone conversation, wishes that Father Deivid may remain peaceful in a peaceful place. So be it.
Regarding the apostolates in Brazil, we hope that Father Nass continues to respect our supplied authority, at least in the places where it is desired or where it has been sought.
Furthermore, we hope that Father Deivid respects the members of the SAJM, to whom he owes his priesthood. We do not approve of the attacks and criticisms directed against them, whether they come from Father Deivid himself or from those who support him. May the attacks against Father Deivid likewise cease.
May all the faithful apply themselves to the exercise of Holy Lent, confident that they have nothing better to do than to act correctly and leave the rest in the hands of God.
+Tomás de Aquino O.S.B.
U.I.O.G.D.
(Ut In Omnibus Glorificetur Deus — That in all things God may be glorified)