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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #115 on: Yesterday at 12:39:41 PM »
Good morning ! You say this one day:"... the false theory that priests should all be in a group. When in fact MOST priests should be independent...."  But a couple of days ago you said: " Fr. H is totally on his own. " :confused:
Are you referring to his doctrine, attitude, connections (Greg T.), Trumpet? He did have a conversation with +B. He reached out to +Z.
So, how can we aim / promote  a united : "We"sistance?  : because in the eyes of Conservative Catholics, we must appear as the laughing stock right now. Who will run to join the movement? Who will run the Movement, at with a moral leader, anything,  and increase, and save souls from the N.Ordo heresies?
Prayers for Leo XIV .:pray:, for a prompt conversion.  Hope.



He has no bishop. Yet pretends to be the one last true Catholic priest.

Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #116 on: Yesterday at 12:42:38 PM »
Any soul of good will can seek the truth and find where the remnant is. 

They just need to be determined to do it.


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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #117 on: Yesterday at 12:45:45 PM »
So lets put it like this: If you think any priest saying the pre 55 is committing a mortal sin, and sinning by working independently, then you will fit right in with the SAJM. However, if you agree on the other hand with Bishop Williamson on independence of priests, in order to preserve their faith, then stick with us and Bishops Stobnicki, Morgan, Vigano and Ballini. The other three are yet to clarify things for us, so we can let them do that if they want.

So far as we can tell this is Fr. Brocard speaking only as head of the seminary.

Stop trying to cause unnecessary division in Tradition, and in the Resistance in particular.

You are doing the devil's work.

Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #118 on: Yesterday at 01:34:00 PM »
Stop trying to cause unnecessary division in Tradition, and in the Resistance in particular.

You are doing the devil's work.

That's a bit harsh.

I highlighted something Father himself brought up. Not me. I knew about this for years. 

If we want to talk about causing division, it seems to have come from certain members of the clergy who have for years been insinuating that independent priests are naughty and the pre 55 tends towards sedevacantism.

Why don't they just stop with all that.

Because none of us are telling them they are evil for being in a group and saying the 62. 

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Re: SAJM leaves the resistance??? (Apostles of Jesus and Mary)
« Reply #119 on: Yesterday at 05:20:01 PM »
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in order to preserve their faith, then stick with us and Bishops Stobnicki, Morgan, Vigano and Ballini. The other three are yet to clarify things for us


Those are the words of a man creating sects and divisions within a group. You are literally lining up 2 different groups of bishops against each other, exaggerating differences of opinion into bad blood, grudges, dug-in positions and permanent divisions. "You're with us, or with them!"

That is not serving the Church or the Body of Christ -- it is serving the cause of the devil.

You know, I was somewhat neutral to the "new crop" of bishops consecrated by +Williamson, during the panic and uncertainty of the COVID years.

But with behavior like this, I feel compelled to dig in my own feet against this kind of sectarianism and division.
It's why I oppose "sedevacantism" as an identity. I don't oppose the opinion itself so much, or the individuals who hold that opinion -- just the UNNECESSARY DIVISION some proponents of Sedevacantism cause within the Traditional Movement.  That is what I oppose. The idea that "plain vanilla" Trad chapels aren't enough, that you need another adjective "sedevacantist" to be a "real" Trad Catholic. That I oppose with all my being, and always will.