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Offline ThatBritPapist

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Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2025, 07:40:23 AM »
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  • Around 2:30 that looks like Fr. Albert O.P.    Is he still at Silver City?
    That is supposed to be Fr Albert OP according to the comments
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #16 on: April 24, 2025, 07:56:25 AM »
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  • "That is supposed to be Fr Albert OP according to the comments"

    What do you mean?  Avoid abbreviations like below?  In the future, try incorporating a period at the end of a sentence?



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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #17 on: April 24, 2025, 02:57:51 PM »
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  • "That is supposed to be Fr Albert OP according to the comments"

    What do you mean?  Avoid abbreviations like below?  In the future, try incorporating a period at the end of a sentence?


    Why should I avoid abbreviating it? Did you get your head in a twist because I typed out "Fr Albert OP" and didn't add a period:fryingpan::laugh2:

    To re-clarify what I meant, you asked if the chap in the docuмentary at 2:30 was Fr Albert OP. What I'm  trying to say is that you're correct due to the YouTube Comment left by the uploader of the video

    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #18 on: April 24, 2025, 05:21:26 PM »
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  • Ok.  It looks like you wanted me to go search the Youtube comments.  Yada yada yada.  Your emoji usage is impressive, however.  You may want to change your name to ThatBritKnucklehead or simpler yet, TheTool.  Cheers.
      

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #19 on: May 05, 2025, 08:19:37 PM »
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  • Recognize anyone in this video?

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #20 on: May 05, 2025, 09:06:47 PM »
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  • Recognize anyone in this video?



    Yes, very many ... alas no pictures of myself though :laugh1:  I think I was rather adept at avoiding the camera.

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #21 on: May 06, 2025, 11:37:43 AM »
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  • Yes, very many ... alas no pictures of myself though :laugh1:  I think I was rather adept at avoiding the camera.
    My response exsctly to the same question.
    "I distrust every idea that does not seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries."
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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #22 on: May 06, 2025, 03:36:49 PM »
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  • I was very happy to see that they gave Bishop Williamson credit and to hear him spoken fondly of.   That was nice.   


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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #23 on: May 06, 2025, 05:13:20 PM »
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  • I was very happy to see that they gave Bishop Williamson credit and to hear him spoken fondly of.  That was nice. 
    I did not get any fondness for Bishop Wiliamson from this film. The presence and contribution of Msgr. Wlliamson to the North American seminary is presented in an abbreviated and incomplete way. So too were the rôles and importance of Bishops Sanborn and Ward presented incompletely.

    I am pleased that Msgr. Hodgson was mentioned, but why no mention of Fr. Coomaraswamy?

    A big deal was made in the film of the move from Winona to Dillwyn. Why was not the travails of thr move from Ridgefield to Winona given equal attention? I worked on the Winona seminary during the summer of 1988, before the start of the new term in September. There was so much work to do, and the poor guys who were doing the long exercises there in August had to endure a quite many privations until many essential things -- like the boiler, the kitchen, painted rooms and hallways, cleaned and waxed floors, and fully functioning lavatories on every floor could be had. Brs. Gerard, Joseph, Hillary, and Benedict put in grueling days of hard labour to get the building ready for the academic year. Additionally there was the whole crew of us laymen doing our part. All of that is left in silence in the film.

    I found this docuмentary to be in fact a propaganda piece promoting the new seminary building in Virginia. It is certainly not a full, docuмentary history of STAS -- it is FAR from being a true docuмentary. Propaganda is the only appropriate word.
    "I distrust every idea that does not seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries."
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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #24 on: May 06, 2025, 06:50:23 PM »
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  • Rest assured the move and work on the new location was much to suffer as well, quite likely on an equal scale more or less. I was a little surprised they mentioned Bp. Williamson as much as they did, but certainly dwelt too long on the new building project, which in my opinion doesn't accomplish their goal in the slightest of being awe inspiring.
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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #25 on: May 06, 2025, 07:03:29 PM »
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  • I did not get any fondness for Bishop Wiliamson from this film. The presence and contribution of Msgr. Wlliamson to the North American seminary is presented in an abbreviated and incomplete way. So too were the rôles and importance of Bishops Sanborn and Ward presented incompletely.

    I am pleased that Msgr. Hodgson was mentioned, but why no mention of Fr. Coomaraswamy?

    A big deal was made in the film of the move from Winona to Dillwyn. Why was not the travails of thr move from Ridgefield to Winona given equal attention? I worked on the Winona seminary during the summer of 1988, before the start of the new term in September. There was so much work to do, and the poor guys who were doing the long exercises there in August had to endure a quite many privations until many essential things -- like the boiler, the kitchen, painted rooms and hallways, cleaned and waxed floors, and fully functioning lavatories on every floor could be had. Brs. Gerard, Joseph, Hillary, and Benedict put in grueling days of hard labour to get the building ready for the academic year. Additionally there was the whole crew of us laymen doing our part. All of that is left in silence in the film.

    I found this docuмentary to be in fact a propaganda piece promoting the new seminary building in Virginia. It is certainly not a full, docuмentary history of STAS -- it is FAR from being a true docuмentary. Propaganda is the only appropriate word.

    I'd have to agree.  I felt that they mentioned +Williamson only because they had no choice given that he was there for, oh, 20+ years.  But they spent tons of time on his successors, lavishing praise on the first for teaching semarians about fatherhood.  I too had some (lesser) involvement in prepping for Winona, which as you point out is barely given 1% of the time that they give to the work at Dillwyn.

    Plus the fact that they left both you and me out of any pictures proves that it is far from complete.  :laugh1:


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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #26 on: May 06, 2025, 07:04:59 PM »
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  • Rest assured the move and work on the new location was much to suffer as well ...

    You seem to miss the point, as usual.  Move to the new location was covered quite thoroughly, whereas the first was not.

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #27 on: May 06, 2025, 07:07:08 PM »
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  • ... but certainly dwelt too long on the new building project, which in my opinion doesn't accomplish their goal in the slightest of being awe inspiring.

    To Elwin's point that it was a propaganda (and likely fundraising) piece for the new building.  They're still mightily in the hole there and are probably trying to inspire new donations.

    They could have done much more to depict what life was like in the seminary, and that might have inspired some, oh, vocations ... rather than donations.  In fact all the time spent on the seminarians' manual labor might in fact have deterred some vocations.  Well, if I wanted to spend 12 hours a day doing construction work, I don't need to go to seminary for that.

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #28 on: May 06, 2025, 07:08:01 PM »
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  • My response exsctly to the same question.

    My respoinse about being adept at avoiding the camera was actually meant as a softball for someone to respond that the camera was adeptly avoiding me.

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    Re: Saint Thomas Aquinas Seminary Docuмentary
    « Reply #29 on: May 06, 2025, 07:22:48 PM »
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  •  In fact all the time spent on the seminarians' manual labor might in fact have deterred some vocations.  Well, if I wanted to spend 12 hours a day doing construction work, I don't need to go to seminary for that.
    They brought up a good point regarding that that made me think: we don't want soft priests looking for an easy life. Granted, I think only 2 made it through who started in the year of arrival, but still they got a good bit of hard life to toughen up all who endured the move.
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