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Offline poenitens

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Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #135 on: June 27, 2023, 10:44:50 PM »
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  • Why not just get confirmed by +Zendejas?
    I don't know how to contact Bp. Zendejas and I don't think the Resistance has a mission in the city where I live in.
    ¡Viva Jesús!

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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #136 on: June 27, 2023, 10:49:36 PM »
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  • I don't know how to contact Bp. Zendejas and I don't think the Resistance has a mission in the city where I live in.

    +Zendejas is sometimes in Mexico (as is +Williamson, as recently as November), so there are missions there.

    Matthew can put you in touch if you desire.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #137 on: June 27, 2023, 11:03:16 PM »
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  • THanks, I just sent him a message
    ¡Viva Jesús!

    Please, disregard any opinions and references that I have posted that may seem favorable to any traditionalist group, especially those that pertinaciously deny EENS (CMRI, Sanborn, Dolan and associates, for example).

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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #138 on: June 24, 2025, 04:16:11 AM »
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  • Can I be sure that all priests in sspx are validly ordained by sspx bishops before 2023? I hope they used all the time validly consecrated oils (before Huonder)

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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #139 on: June 24, 2025, 05:40:58 AM »
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  • Can I be sure that all priests in sspx are validly ordained by sspx bishops before 2023? I hope they used all the time validly consecrated oils (before Huonder)
    No we can't be sure. There is at least one priest in France who was ordained in the novos ordo. Mgr Lefevbre knew about this and decided against conditional ordination. Amongst the faithful who care about these matters, these things are known.  


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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #140 on: June 24, 2025, 08:13:22 AM »
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  • I mean, if I go to a priest who was ordained BY SSPX BISHOP before 2023, may I be sure he is validly ordained?
    That there were valid oils? I dont talk about NOM priests who came to SSPX, but I talk about priests prepared and ordained by SSPX bishops before 2023. I hope I explained it better now.

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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #141 on: June 24, 2025, 10:10:08 AM »
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  • I mean, if I go to a priest who was ordained BY SSPX BISHOP before 2023, may I be sure he is validly ordained?
    That there were valid oils? I dont talk about NOM priests who came to SSPX, but I talk about priests prepared and ordained by SSPX bishops before 2023. I hope I explained it better now.
    Using invalidly consecrated oils does not invalidate an ordination. It definitely renders it sacrilegious and, I guess, it may render sacrilegious all Masses celebrated by the validly ordained new priest with non-consecrated hands. Somebody else correct me if I'm wrong in this last point.

    Invalidly consecrated oils would invalidate the sacrament of confirmation and extreme unction, but NOT ordinations.

    EDIT: If you are concerned about one particular priest, ask him directly the details about his ordination. If he refuses to answer, ask his superior. If he refuses to answer, ask Cathinfo. In any case, pray.
    Our Lady keep you under her mantle.

    "Blessed is the simplicity which leaveth alone the difficult paths of questionings, and followeth the plain and firm steps of God’s commandments." - The Imitation of Christ

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    Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
    « Reply #142 on: June 24, 2025, 12:52:09 PM »
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  • This priest was ordained by Bishop Mallerais in 2017...well I will ask him for details of his ordaining...