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Offline Neil Obstat

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+RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
« on: October 22, 2017, 12:36:39 AM »
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 11:47:53 AM »
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    In this interview, the beginning provides a comprehensive background reference for where +W came from, what Vat.II was, why ABL opposed it, how the SSPX came into being, what happened to +W along the way, and what he stands for today. IOW it's a nice introduction for anyone who doesn't know the background history of Bishop Richard Williamson.
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    I find this interview interesting because the questions lead +W into explaining some things (his ideas, opinions) about world history that he has not pronounced in other speeches or interviews or writings that I have seen or heard.
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    For example, the whole thing culminates with a comment found at the end where +W says that the Jews (having explained how they rejected Our Lord as their own Redeemer against God's will and thereby drew down a curse upon themselves which they are very unwilling to recognize) were the ones who "created Islam" in the first place, but they did it with the intention of building up a force that would fight the Christian Order that was gaining power against all the Jews' efforts to subdue it, and they did so such that some other foreign force would do the Jews' fighting for them. Therefore by bringing the Moslem horde into existence the Jews acted as a builder of a kind of monster the control of which they were unable to maintain.
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    The interview is cut short at the end and I get the feeling that +W was about to say that the Moslems are analogous to Frankenstein's Monster because when they got loose they turned against the very Jews who brought them into existence so that the Jews now have to defend themselves against their own creation. The 6 Days' War in the 1960's being a prime example of this situation. Perhaps he actually said something like that at the end but it was clipped off perhaps because of time constraints but also because saying such a thing in Europe might be literally illegal!! (So-called anti-Semitism laws in Germany reach outside the national boundaries as we have seen in recent years, IOW the Jews are now after all in control in Germany.)
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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 01:24:27 PM »
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    In this interview, the beginning provides a comprehensive background reference for where +W came from, what Vat.II was, why ABL opposed it, how the SSPX came into being, what happened to +W along the way, and what he stands for today. IOW it's a nice introduction for anyone who doesn't know the background history of Bishop Richard Williamson.
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    I find this interview interesting because the questions lead +W into explaining some things (his ideas, opinions) about world history that he has not pronounced in other speeches or interviews or writings that I have seen or heard.
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    For example, the whole thing culminates with a comment found at the end where +W says that the Jews (having explained how they rejected Our Lord as their own Redeemer against God's will and thereby drew down a curse upon themselves which they are very unwilling to recognize) were the ones who "created Islam" in the first place, but they did it with the intention of building up a force that would fight the Christian Order that was gaining power against all the Jews' efforts to subdue it, and they did so such that some other foreign force would do the Jews' fighting for them. Therefore by bringing the Moslem horde into existence the Jews acted as a builder of a kind of monster the control of which they were unable to maintain.
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    The interview is cut short at the end and I get the feeling that +W was about to say that the Moslems are analogous to Frankenstein's Monster because when they got loose they turned against the very Jews who brought them into existence so that the Jews now have to defend themselves against their own creation. The 6 Days' War in the 1960's being a prime example of this situation. Perhaps he actually said something like that at the end but it was clipped off perhaps because of time constraints but also because saying such a thing in Europe might be literally illegal!! (So-called anti-Semitism laws in Germany reach outside the national boundaries as we have seen in recent years, IOW the Jews are now after all in control in Germany.)
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    This might shed some light on the latter part of your post...

    Albert Pike's 1871 Plan For The Three World Wars
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    In 1871 Albert Pike envisioned three World Wars to be followed by an unparalleled economic disaster.   Pike's plans have come to fruition, shockingly 'on target'.  Who is Pike and perhaps more importantly who backed Pike?
    Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

    • "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
    • "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
    • "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained. physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
    http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 06:42:56 PM »
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  • There is a tremendous lack of clarity here and we have to endure the bishop's customary broad brush historical speculations. We continue to be puzzled for example as to the precise relationship between biblical Jews and so-called contemporary Jews since it seems some Catholic/Christian positions base much of their theories on a final reconciliation between God and his favoured race. Since most of the Jews of today would smirk at such a Christian preoccupation even if they could prove their rather complicated heritage, continuing to deliver this bizarre mythology emboldens them further and weakens the necessity to convert. In his own way the bishop promotes this idea of exceptionalism in the case of the Jews as though a belief in it was mandatory for Catholics. What is not clear is how the Church could be so distinctly accommodating if this were true, not forgetting the task of bringing together all these Jews for their unique and final deliverance.    

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 08:40:44 PM »
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  • Some Catholics believe that the Jews have already converted.  They say that St Vincent Ferrer converted them.


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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 03:30:05 PM »
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    We continue to be puzzled for example as to the precise relationship between biblical Jews and so-called contemporary Jews since it seems some Catholic/Christian positions base much of their theories on a final reconciliation between God and his favoured race.
    Since we came out of Protestant Disensationalism we are pretty well acquainted with end time ideas of a remnant of the Jews doing the heavy lifting on earth, while Christians go up at the Rapture to Heaven.  We know that preachers like Pastor Hagee market this kind of nonsense.  But, to date, we don't know about any corresponding Catholic "positions"  Unless you're referring to what Fellay said in 2009 about the jews being "our elder brothers and other ridiculous things about what should be their special place in our hearts,  I have no idea what you're talking about. Please post a link that might better inform us about "some" Catholics awaiting a  "final reconciliation."

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 04:12:02 PM »
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  • I found the interviewer very open minded and he has even had the brother of Jeremy Corbyn on his programme.  

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 09:32:30 AM »
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  • Thanks for posting this interview. It's always refreshing to hear a Catholic bishop who doesn't fear to defend the true Faith. May God bless him!


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 12:54:18 PM »
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  • Thanks for posting this interview.

    It's always refreshing to hear a Catholic bishop who doesn't fear to defend the true Faith. May God bless him!
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    You're welcome. 
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    I happened across it and at first thought that the intro was far too trite because all this has been explained already. Then as I watched the rest of it, I started to think, you know, someone who has not already heard +W's background story might appreciate the introduction part of this video since it sort of presumes you have no prior knowledge.
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    The video quickly moves into more complex issues after the intro, and then we see +W responding to unusual questions. 
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    Recall that his responding to unusual questions in the past has put him in a very difficult situation. 
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    So he is no doubt cautious not to say certain things.
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    Nonetheless, he answers anyway, for which he deserves some admiration for being courageous and forthright in defense of the Faith.
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    Re: +RW interviewed by Windows on the World - NWO, Catholicism
    « Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 01:04:36 PM »
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  • This might shed some light on the latter part of your post...

    Albert Pike's 1871 Plan For The Three World Wars
    http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm
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    Thank you for a very insightful reply. Your quote of Albert Pike's 1871 Plan is quite appropriate!
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    It's too bad Pike didn't mention the legalization of marijuana, the awesome Fatima consecration, Isis, Vat.II or North Korea.
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    He couldn't have known TOO much because he doesn't say anything about nuclear weapons.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 26, 2017, 05:51:40 AM »
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  • Since we came out of Protestant Disensationalism we are pretty well acquainted with end time ideas of a remnant of the Jews doing the heavy lifting on earth, while Christians go up at the Rapture to Heaven.  We know that preachers like Pastor Hagee market this kind of nonsense.  But, to date, we don't know about any corresponding Catholic "positions"  Unless you're referring to what Fellay said in 2009 about the jews being "our elder brothers and other ridiculous things about what should be their special place in our hearts,  I have no idea what you're talking about. Please post a link that might better inform us about "some" Catholics awaiting a  "final reconciliation."
    Catholics are all over the place when it comes to the treatment of Jews. Some would say that by virtue of them being Jews because of God's original sole interest in them the rules for getting into heaven are different for them. This is the intentional or default position of mainstream churches and is not absent from the thinking of trads. I remember Max Krah praising Jews for their special qualities and saying the early church gave pride of place to those that had become Christian. One may ask why they bothered to convert if it was not really necessary. Even Bp. Williamson echoes some of these words and laments Jews not heading the Church because of their special 'gifts'. I would say they are already doing that indirectly. This Jewish/Gentile relationship is very vague and churchmen like to dodge the issue which is very off-putting. 


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    « Reply #11 on: October 26, 2017, 07:36:31 AM »
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  • Catholics are all over the place when it comes to the treatment of Jews. Some would say that by virtue of them being Jews because of God's original sole interest in them the rules for getting into heaven are different for them. This is the intentional or default position of mainstream churches and is not absent from the thinking of trads. I remember Max Krah praising Jews for their special qualities and saying the early church gave pride of place to those that had become Christian. One may ask why they bothered to convert if it was not really necessary. Even Bp. Williamson echoes some of these words and laments Jews not heading the Church because of their special 'gifts'. I would say they are already doing that indirectly. This Jewish/Gentile relationship is very vague and churchmen like to dodge the issue which is very off-putting.
    And I would agree that they are indeed "heading the Church" due to their "special gifts", gifts which are not of God. Even neo-Traditionals have been conditioned by their influence, and, as a result, have opinions about them which are elastic.
    The Eastern Church has a much better grasp about who and what the are, opinions which come from the like opinions of the ancient Fathers. As a whole they are believed to be anti-Christ, and many Orthodox clerics are not shy about saying it. They do not fear the Jews as they are feared by the west.

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    « Reply #12 on: October 26, 2017, 09:34:45 AM »
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  • Continuation  . . . PART II


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    « Reply #13 on: October 26, 2017, 11:07:06 AM »
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    Catholics are all over the place when it comes to the treatment of Jews. Some would say that by virtue of them being Jews because of God's original sole interest in them the rules for getting into heaven are different for them. This is the intentional or default position of mainstream churches and is not absent from the thinking of trads. I remember Max Krah praising Jews for their special qualities and saying the early church gave pride of place to those that had become Christian. One may ask why they bothered to convert if it was not really necessary. Even Bp. Williamson echoes some of these words and laments Jews not heading the Church because of their special 'gifts'. I would say they are already doing that indirectly. This Jewish/Gentile relationship is very vague and churchmen like to dodge the issue which is very off-putting.
    I accept your brief analysis.  I guess, as you say, Catholics can be "all over the place" regarding this pernicious bunch.  Wasn't it Cd. Kasper who signed off on the jews' special covenant  with God, which exempts them from the necessity of Christian conversion?  I doubt, though, that many Catholics have taken the dispensationalist position, or have cooked up similar eschatological rubbish.  But who knows.  Anyway, I'd still like to think that the bishop has a more or less a fixed, unwavering position on the jews.  As for Krah- yeah, of course.  A guy who stands on street corners passing out small Israeli flags is liable to have a pretty positive outlook towards this bunch.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 27, 2017, 08:09:52 AM »
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  • Freedom,

     
    Conciliar popes are deeply wrong, but they remain Vicar of Christ and we must respect them. We can't say that they have bad intentions, because only God can see in the hearts.

     

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