Author Topic: Running List of SSPX Priests expelled or in danger of same (Read 38535 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 12, 2012, 01:50:11 PM »

Name - Present Location - Circuмstances - Contact Info

1). Fr. Cardozo (Currently in Mexico) - In danger of expulsion

2). Fr. Grosso (Argentina) - Left due to disagreement with sell-out

3). Fr. Abrahamowicz (Italy) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out - donfloriano@domusmarcellefebvre.it

4). Fr. Meramo (Colombia) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out - mail@meramo.net

5). Fr. Chazal (Philippines) - In danger of expulsion

6). Fr. J. Pfeiffer (Philippines) - in danger of expulsion - frjpfeiffer@juno.com

7). Fr. Morgan (UK) - in danger of expulsion

8). His Lordship, Bishop Williamson (UK) - in danger of expulsion

9). Fr. Ceriani (Argentina) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out

10). Fr. Turco (Argentina) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out

11). Fr. Notiglia (Italy) - in danger of expulsion - Leave Comment at http://doncurzionitoglia.wordpress.com/about/ or post on his Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/doncurzionitoglia?sk=wall

12). Fr. Soliman (Philippines) - Left due to disagreement with sell-out - frjsoliman@yahoo.com

13). Mosteiro de Santa Cruz (Brazil) - in danger of persecution (Benedictines attached to SSPX) - secretario@spessantotomas.com.br

14). Fr. Morgon (OFM Cap) (France) - in danger of expulsion

15). Fr. Beauvais (France) - in danger of expulsion

16). Fr. T. Pfeiffer (Philippines) - in danger of expulsion - jtpfeiffer@juno.com

17). Fr. P. Girouard (Vancouver, Canada)

18). His Excellency, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais (France)

19). Fr. A (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

20). Fr. B (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

21). Fr. C (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

MaterDominici · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2012, 02:31:19 PM »

22). Fr. Michel Koller - In danger of expulsion

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2012, 04:59:15 PM »

Anyone notice a certain country, wedged between Mexico and Canada, with no priests on this list?

Domitilla · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2012, 05:08:17 PM »

Fr. Pfeiffer is an American who is assigned to the Asia District (for now).

magdalena · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2012, 05:23:02 PM »

Quote from: Domitilla

Fr. Pfeiffer is an American who is assigned to the Asia District (for now).

That's correct. And I'm holding out hope for a couple more I know. It will definitely take courage and sacrifice, but that is what we must pray for.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2012, 05:49:08 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: Domitilla
Fr. Pfeiffer is an American who is assigned to the Asia District (for now).

That's correct. And I'm holding out hope for a couple more I know. It will definitely take courage and sacrifice, but that is what we must pray for.

Ah, yes.

I should have said "priests currently in the American District."

Ethelred · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2012, 01:46:30 AM »

I received news about Fr. Cadazo's "status" :

Last Sunday, Fr. Wall, prior of North Mexico, said in his sermon that the faithful who assist to the Fr. Cardozo Mass, or if they talk to him, would be expelled from the SSPX.

He also said that Fr. Cardozo must apologise publicly with Bishop Fellay, otherwise he will be expelled on Tuesday, 12 June (i.e. yesterday; but I don't know yet what happened).

Fr. Wall also said that superiors can not allow the father to come to Mexico to agitate the faithful.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2012, 02:06:01 AM »

Quote from: Ethelred

I received news about Fr. Cadazo's "status" :

Last Sunday, Fr. Wall, prior of North Mexico, said in his sermon that the faithful who assist to the Fr. Cardozo Mass, or if they talk to him, would be expelled from the SSPX.

He also said that Fr. Cardozo must apologise publicly with Bishop Fellay, otherwise he will be expelled on Tuesday, 12 June (i.e. yesterday; but I don't know yet what happened).

Fr. Wall also said that superiors can not allow the father to come to Mexico to agitate the faithful.

It is Bishop Fellay who should apologize.

Amicus24 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:17:16 AM »

Does a SSPX parish prior even have the legal right to expel known parishioners from the church, as long as they aren't causing a disturbance? I don't think that would hold up in a lawsuit in any country.

Amicus24 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:18:13 AM »

by the way, does anyone know what city Fr. Cardozo is in? We are going to be traveling to Mexico soon.

trento · « **Reply #10 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:22:02 AM »

Quote from: Amicus24

Does a SSPX parish prior even have the legal right to expel known parishioners from the church, as long as they aren't causing a disturbance? I don't think that would hold up in a lawsuit in any country.

SSPX priests have been known to deny the sacraments to troublemakers in the past. As for physically expelling them, I'd say it varies from place to place.

Francisco · « **Reply #11 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:40:52 AM »

Quote from: trento

Quote from: Amicus24
Does a SSPX parish prior even have the legal right to expel known parishioners from the church, as long as they aren't causing a disturbance? I don't think that would hold up in a lawsuit in any country.

SSPX priests have been known to deny the sacraments to troublemakers in the past. As for physically expelling them, I'd say it varies from place to place.

Three so-called Feeneyites were expelled from the Singapore chapel some years ago, perhaps for discussing their views with Mass goers. One was later allowed to attend Mass as far away as Manila ....

Francisco · « **Reply #12 on:** June 13, 2012, 05:27:08 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Ethelred
I received news about Fr. Cadazo's "status" :

Last Sunday, Fr. Wall, prior of North Mexico, said in his sermon that the faithful who assist to the Fr. Cardozo Mass, or if they talk to him, would be expelled from the SSPX.

He also said that Fr. Cardozo must apologise publicly with Bishop Fellay, otherwise he will be expelled on Tuesday, 12 June (i.e. yesterday; but I don't know yet what happened).

Fr. Wall also said that superiors can not allow the father to come to Mexico to agitate the faithful.

It is Bishop Fellay who should apologize.

Telesphorus, "interdicts" were issued on a few faithful in this part of Asia District. One of the priests was invited to dinner by a faithful. When the host refused to support the priest's investigation of a fellow priest, the entire Mass Center was threatened with closure. Just think about it. You invite a priest to dinner and he ends up threatening to close your Mass Center as if it were your personal property!

A Novus Ordo priest friend of the Society told me that never in his 50 years plus as a diocesan priest has he come across this issue of interdicts. He said that even once, when an irate parishoner punched a priest, the diocese smoothened all ruffled feathers and crumpled egos without the need for censures.

Post-deal, the Vatican will pass around a lot of humble pie to the SSPX.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2012, 06:59:29 AM »

Quote from: trento

Quote from: Amicus24
Does a SSPX parish prior even have the legal right to expel known parishioners from the church, as long as they aren't causing a disturbance? I don't think that would hold up in a lawsuit in any country.

SSPX priests have been known to deny the sacraments to troublemakers in the past. As for physically expelling them, I'd say it varies from place to place.

They can get restraining orders through the civil authority.

TKGS · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2012, 07:10:35 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Name - Present Location - Circuмstances - Contact Info

1). Fr. Cardozo (Currently in Mexico) - In danger of expulsion

2). Fr. Grosso (Argentina) - Left due to disagreement with sell-out

3). Fr. Abrahamowicz (Italy) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out - donfloriano@domusmarcellefebvre.it

4). Fr. Meramo (Colombia) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out - mail@meramo.net

5). Fr. Chazal (Philippines) - In danger of expulsion

6). Fr. J. Pfeiffer (Philippines) - in danger of expulsion - frjpfeiffer@juno.com

7). Fr. Morgan (UK) - in danger of expulsion

8). His Lordship, Bishop Williamson (UK) - in danger of expulsion

9). Fr. Ceriani (Argentina) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out

10). Fr. Turco (Argentina) - Expelled for criticism of sell-out

11). Fr. Notiglia (Italy) - in danger of expulsion - Leave Comment at http://doncurzionitoglia.wordpress.com/about/ or post on his Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/doncurzionitoglia?sk=wall

12). Fr. Soliman (Philippines) - Left due to disagreement with sell-out - frjsoliman@yahoo.com

13). Mosteiro de Santa Cruz (Brazil) - in danger of persecution (Benedictines attached to SSPX) - secretario@spessantotomas.com.br

14). Fr. Morgon (OFM Cap) (France) - in danger of expulsion

15). Fr. Beauvais (France) - in danger of expulsion

16). Fr. T. Pfeiffer (Philippines) - in danger of expulsion - jtpfeiffer@juno.com

17). Fr. P. Girouard (Vancouver, Canada)

18). His Excellency, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais (France)

19). Fr. A (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

20). Fr. B (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

21). Fr. C (Name withheld for now) (Germany) - In danger of expulsion

Getting back to the original topic, which is about priests who are in danger of expulsion, I think we should try to keep track of these priests (and any others who later become known) and see if they are actually expelled over the next few weeks or months.

If most, or even many of them, find themselves banned from saying public Mass in SSPX chapels (even if not formally expelled), it will signal that Bishop Fellay is still on the path to reconciliation on Rome's terms and is (quietly) ridding the SSPX of those priests who have been or are likely to become troublemakers for him the next time this issue comes up.

I don't believe that this was merely a dry run orchestrated by Rome-Menzingen collusion to weed out those who would split the Society in some sort of reconciliation, but I don't necessarily deny that, once public opposition to the deal began to mount, a Rome-Menzingen accord was struck to make a face-saving retreat so that the SSPX could purge those who were sowing opposition to a reconciliation.

Thus, if Bishop Fellay announces another Rosary Crusade while quietly expelling these good priests (and, perhaps, at least one Bishop) and then another round of "discussions", I believe it is very likely that we could see the past couple of months playing out again next spring. Only next time, there will be no voices inside the SSPX condemning a deal or raising the alarm.

Those of you who have the means to do so, please keep us informed through this summer and fall. I still note that there have been no American priests on any of these lists. Such a shame that the American SSPX has been so quick to fall into line behind Bishop Fellay's madness.