Author Topic: Rumor - Frs. Schmidberger and Pfluger meeting with FSSP (Read 12685 times)

Matthew · « **on:** November 27, 2015, 05:17:00 PM »

Want to help me confirm or debunk a rumor?

I know I don't normally post or ask for rumors on CathInfo, but I'll make an exception this once. Just to be clear: I'm distinguishing this from just about everything else in this subforum, which is substantiated fact and first-hand report.

In other words, when it's a rumor, don't worry: I'll call it a rumor.

There is a persistent rumor coming out of Ireland and Scotland that:

"there's a meeting just now, or soon, in Canada with Frs. Schmidberger, Pfluger and the Society of St. Peter to work out the merger of both groups. If true, they have kept it very quiet."

1. This is a rumor
2. It's pretty fantastical

So does anyone know if this can be A) substantiated or B) proven false? Or is it one of those rumors that conveniently can't be proven one way or the other?

McCork · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2015, 05:24:37 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I know I don't normally post or ask for rumors on CathInfo, but I'll make an exception this once. Just to be clear: I'm distinguishing this from just about everything else in this subforum, which is substantiated fact and first-hand report.

In other words, when it's a rumor, don't worry: I'll call it a rumor.

There is a persistent rumor coming out of Ireland and Scotland that:

"there's a meeting just now, or soon, in Canada with Frs. Schmidberger, Pfluger and the Society of St. Peter to work out the merger of both groups. If true, they have kept it very quiet."

1. This is a rumor
2. It's pretty fantastical

So does anyone know if this can be A) substantiated or B) proven false? Or is it one of those rumors that conveniently can't be proven one way or the other?

Considering it is already solidly known that the SSPX is heading towards a sort of merger with Rome to become like the Society of St. Peter, I see nothing wrong with presenting a "rumor" that they would actually merge with that society. It doesn't even really have to be a rumor because one could legitimately give that a raw speculation.

Considering what is already known, I don't consider the rumor fantastical.

Additionally, I would expect something like this as being likely, considering the SSPX just built a VERY expensive seminary in Virginia and they wouldn't have done so unless they were sure they would be able to fill it....which is coming up next year.

It all fits together.

wallflower · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2015, 05:31:13 PM »

I have nothing to offer to substantiate or prove it false but it does sound fantastical. A move like that would wake up waayy too many people. They've invested so much time convincing everyone that nothing has changed, this would fly in the face of all that work and the strategy of the slow boil.

TKGS · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2015, 05:37:06 PM »

Obviously, it can't be proven false. Even if Frs. Schmidberger and Pfluger can be proven not to be in Canada, "soon" is in the future and, by its very nature, future events cannot be proven false.

If it is true, it will be proven true when the announcement is made that the two groups are merging in some manner. What do think the name of the (rumored) merged organization would be? Would it be:

1. Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).
2. Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP).
3. Society of the Priestly Fraternity of Sts. Peter and Pius X (SPFSPPX).
4. Ecclesia Dei Society of St. John Paul II (EDSSJP2-We Luv You).

I vote for rumored name #4.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2015, 05:42:04 PM »

Quote from: wallflower

I have nothing to offer to substantiate or prove it false but it does sound fantastical. A move like that would wake up waayy too many people. They've invested so much time convincing everyone that nothing has changed, this would fly in the face of all that work and the strategy of the slow boil.

The time they've invested to convince everyone that nothing has changed seems to have been working okay, and even while it should be obvious there has been change the gullible minions still believe that nothing has changed.

The slow boil is working and now the frog is ready for the frog legs. Bon appetit!

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