This would not be surprising. I was told the same thing by a district superior of the SSPX in 2001 when there was also a plan for merger in the air. The district superior had just been told this by Bishop Fellay. Fellay apparently had been speaking with the Romans about a deal. One thing that was emphasized was that Rome would  not make a deal with the SSPX unless ALL the bishops of the SSPX "came in" to the Conciliar Church --- this seemed like, at the time, as the MAJOR stumbling block to an accord. The deal was portrayed as a universal traditional personal prelature. When bishop Fellay asked the Romans --- I think it was Cardinal Hoyos -- "What will happen then to the Fraternity of St. Peter?" Cardinal Hoyos said, "They will be under YOU!"
I can assure you that this actually happened. Now there is certainly less opposition in the SSPX to it then there was in 2001.

Matthew et al,

As far as I'm concerned, the merger is no longer a rumor. Augustine has confirmed it in the post above. He is a RC insider with deep ties to the FSSP. Perhaps part of GREC or with ties to it. He has also proven +Fellay a traitor and a liar.

The merger must be the last details to be cleared before the signing of the last agreement.

I don't know them personally. I'm familiar with the names only. I agree with you but they have their reliable sources. They usually know more about +Fellay than the SSPX knows. They broke the news about SP, the Argentinean deal, in the fiasco in June 2012 they had regular updates...
They have informers in Rome and SSPX.

I doubt that there is any sort of merger planned, if the new District Superior of the FSSP has anything to do with it, since he held very anti-SSPX views six years ago (thinking that they were a cult). He never preached these views openly, but told them to an SSPX chapel attender that I knew back then, who attended a few FSSP Masses, and had a few long conversations with him after Mass. Maybe he has since then relaxed his views of the SSPX. I doubt it though.

Also, in 2012, Bishop Fellay certainly expected a deal to be made in June. It was the Vatican that effectively pulled away the deal. This shocked Bishop Fellay so he called Fr. Ramon Angles to find out what happened to the expected deal, which he thought was a done deal. Apparently, Jєωιѕн organizations went to the German government and the German government threatened to cut off diplomatic relations with the Vatican if the SSPX should be admitted into the Conciliar Church. Why things would be different this time since Angela Merkel is still chancellor is unknown to me.

Also, in 2012, Bishop Fellay certainly expected a deal to be made in June. It was the Vatican that effectively pulled away the deal. This shocked Bishop Fellay so he called Fr. Ramon Angles to find out what happened to the expected deal, which he thought was a done deal. Apparently, Jєωιѕн organizations went to the German government and the German government threatened to cut off diplomatic relations with the Vatican if the SSPX should be admitted into the Conciliar Church. Why things would be different this time since Angela Merkel is still chancellor is unknown to me.

Since the SSPX has expunged their websites, committed a type of fratricide against the truth-telling bishop, and has allegedly given a Zionist signature authority over SSPX assets, a naive person would think that such abject submission would be enough—BUT that is not the way of the ѕуηαgσgυє.

Can you imagine any amount of groveling that Mel Gibson could do to get back in favor with H✡llyw✡✡d?

No amount of groveling could get the SSPX in favor with the ѕуηαgσgυє and that underscores the foolishness of Bp. Fellay for submitting and doing the ѕуηαgσgυє's bidding in the first place. He should have known that "forgiveness" and "reconciliation" are impossible for the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.

Want to help me confirm or debunk a rumor?

I know I don't normally post or ask for rumors on CathInfo, but I'll make an exception this once. Just to be clear: I'm distinguishing this from just about everything else in this subforum, which is substantiated fact and first-hand report.

In other words, when it's a rumor, don't worry: I'll call it a rumor.


There is a persistent rumor coming out of Ireland and Scotland that:

"there's a meeting just now, or soon, in Canada with Frs. Schmidberger, Pfluger and the Society of St. Peter to work out the merger of both groups.  If true, they have kept it very quiet."

1. This is a rumor
2. It's pretty fantastical

So does anyone know if this can be A) substantiated or B) proven false? Or is it one of those rumors that conveniently can't be proven one way or the other?

I doubt that it is more than a rumor. After all, in the event of a merger, who will be in charge?

In the event of a reintegration with Rome, the SSPX and the FSSP will most likely NOT merge. At this point, it is obvious, even in these times, the FSSP and the SSPX clearly have a different charism. Msgr. Berg has made it clear that the role of the FSSP and its vocation is the mass and only the mass. As a reusult, since the tenure of Msgr. Berg, the FSSP has been actively involved in training Novus Ordo priests to say the Tridentine Mass. They have completely washed away their original vocation and original goal and have now become, for the most part, a training group for novus ordo priests. Their Seminary holds multiple workshops every year to train Novus Ordo priests. The SSPX, on the other hand, has never done such apostalate. Unification of the two groups is almost impossible. It's almost like saying that, if the SSPX gains a place in Rome, all the traditionalist groups will de facto fall under the SSPX unbrella, like Bon Pasteur, ICRSP, etc. They each have their unique charism and I doubt the SSPX will be much receptive to them.