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Author Topic: Rule Violator #2: JPaul  (Read 21835 times)

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Re: Rule Violator #2: JPaul
« Reply #115 on: June 09, 2018, 04:16:01 PM »
If he did, then it's incredibly irresponsible of him to be so imprecise when people's souls are on the line.

or, rather,

SJ = BS.

"IF" he did?

I put the quote right in front of your face, but I suppose you can't be bothered by quotes which disrupt your narrative.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Rule Violator #2: JPaul
« Reply #116 on: June 09, 2018, 04:17:10 PM »
...as was often done in the gulags behind the iron curtain (though the wine was also consecrated).

It's one thing to say the Rite minimalistically, as in the gulag scenario, but quite another when you put alongside it stuff that in the external forum puts it into a non-Catholic context.


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Re: Rule Violator #2: JPaul
« Reply #117 on: June 09, 2018, 04:17:16 PM »
No catholic = no intention of the Catholic church.

Emphasis needs to be placed that the rite itself is not Catholic.

Article 9. Whether faith is required of necessity in the minister of a sacrament?

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/4064.htm#article9


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Re: Rule Violator #2: JPaul
« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2018, 04:18:20 PM »
"IF" he did?

I put the quote right in front of your face, but I suppose you can't be bothered by quotes which disrupt your narrative.

Quotes without any context, as per usual, in particular, WHEN he said them.  +Lefebvre is known for having vacillated.  I put quotes from him in front of you, and you just fled the discussion like a baby and started a new thread.  There were many times that +Lefebvre says it's entirely likely that the See has been vacant, but you stick your fingers in your ears and start chanting "la la la".


Re: Rule Violator #2: JPaul
« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2018, 04:19:03 PM »
Emphasis needs to be placed that the rite itself is not Catholic.

Article 9. Whether faith is required of necessity in the minister of a sacrament?

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/4064.htm#article9

You mean like many of the Protestant baptism rites....which the Church recognizes as valid?