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« on: March 30, 2015, 10:21:37 PM »
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  • Bishop Faure',  "I think we can call ourselves Roman Catholic first, secondly St Pius X, and now ... the Resistance."

    God love him.



    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rogue-catholic-bishops-plan-grow-schismatic-challenge-rome-200456706.html

     


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    « Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 10:36:35 PM »
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    Bishop Faure',  "I think we can call ourselves Roman Catholic first, secondly St Pius X, and now ... the Resistance."

    God love him.



    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rogue-catholic-bishops-plan-grow-schismatic-challenge-rome-200456706.html

     


    I like their take on the Traditional movement -- we won't deal with Rome until they "turn back the clock".

    How about "come back to the Catholic Faith".

    Fools.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 10:40:21 PM »
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  • I thought the story was a hoot.

    It shows just how dense the "world" really is.


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    « Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 10:46:16 PM »
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    Bishop Faure',  "I think we can call ourselves Roman Catholic first, secondly St Pius X, and now ... the Resistance."

    God love him.



    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rogue-catholic-bishops-plan-grow-schismatic-challenge-rome-200456706.html


    "Former Pope Benedict [made nice with] the four SSPX bishops [...] in 2009, but the SSPX soon expelled Williamson because of an uproar over his h0Ɩ0cαųst denial."

    Truth from the mouths of the ignorant.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 10:51:30 PM »
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  • The h0Ɩ0cαųst is a h0Ɩ0h0αx. The Jєωs didn't get their 6 million casualty "h0Ɩ0cαųst" game going during World War 1 (they tried!) so they tried again 50 years later.

    If at first you don't succeed...

    I like how the number of Jєωs in Europe held steady between 1930, 1940 and 1950, even though "6 million" were turned into lampshades and soap by the nαzιs. Hmmm... something doesn't add up.

    I also like how MILLIONS of Jєωs claimed to be h0Ɩ0cαųst survivors. Did any of them actually perish in the so-called h0Ɩ0cαųst? I don't think every building in 1940's Germany could hold all the Jєωs that have since claimed to be h0Ɩ0cαųst survivors...

    Stupid goyim... they'll believe anything their Jєωιѕн masters tell them with their media. Especially the Jєωιѕн tabernacle (TV). I see why they refer to us as "cattle".
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    « Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 02:41:29 AM »
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  • Roraate ran with the yahoo story in its twitter feed. Right now, it seems like they are probably getting direct cabling from Menzingen. If they post stories hostile or inaccurate concerning the Resistance, perhaps we can flood their feed with the real story (links and such). Williamson and Faure deserve to be heard. The narrative must not be fixed before the rest of the story is in.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 04:46:35 AM »
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  • Same old rogue ... renegade.... dissenting.... ultra-traditionalist....h0Ɩ0cαųst-denying....thorn....schism - and that's only from the first three paragraphs.

    +Williamson and +Faure have been condemned by SSPX and excommunicated by the Jєω media - but still nothing official from Rome.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    « Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 08:58:25 AM »
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  • This is basic, fundamental, and common sense, but nevertheless true.

    The enemies of God who have infiltrated the Conciliar Church will certainly not be happy about a small group resisting (and possibly undoing in the end) all their work.

    Do we doubt that the Church (and God) has enemies?
    Do we doubt that they have taken over the Church during Vatican II?

    If not, then why shouldn't we expect them to foam at the mouth when a faithful Bishop consecrates another bishop(s) to continue the struggle against them?

    When I look at this article, I see foaming at the mouth -- I see gnashing of teeth.

    If you ever want to know the ESSENCE of the Jєωs, just read St. Stephen's summary of them in Acts of the Apostles. Here is the last part:

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    [51] You stiffnecked and uncircuмcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do you also. [52] Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? And they have slain them who foretold of the coming of the Just One; of whom you have been now the betrayers and murderers: [53] Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. [54] Now hearing these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed with their teeth at him. [55] But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looking up steadfastly to heaven, saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God. And he said: Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

    [56] And they crying out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and with one accord ran violently upon him. [57] And casting him forth without the city, they stoned him; and the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man, whose name was Saul. [58] And they stoned Stephen


    Let us not forget -- many of these men, even today, are malicious in their opposition to God and the truth. They stop their ears, they cry out, they gnash their teeth. They experience a foretaste of Hell itself.
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    « Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 09:28:26 AM »
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  • I was present for the press visit to help with any language barriers, even though not necessary since His Excellency speaks fluent English.

    There were many interesting things left out of the report. I thought it was it was interesting when they asked if there were any other bishops or cardinals who thought like him and Bishop Williamson. His Excellency responded that he thought there were two more in the Society of St. Pius X.  I felt a bit relieved at this remark about Bishop De Galerreta. We already knew this about Bishop Tissier, but Bishop De Galerreta has been quiet and probably will continue to be, as he was before the crisis in the Society. He signed the letter of the three bishops and was also recommended by the then Fr. Faure, so this is something to consider. When one reads De Galerreta's response to Pope Benedict about the Ecclesia Dei letter being a sort of trap and that no practical deal without a doctrinal resolution is possible, this is a tiny glimmer of hope. Overall, I was left with hope that he publicly said that about the other two bishops. Even if the reporters didn't pick up on the importance of it.

    A few other things were interesting ways of responding to the reporters comments. These reporters had the balls to ask if another World War would be good for the Catholic Church. His Excellency responded clearly that it would be horrible but maybe necessary who knows and that his great grandfather participated in World War 1 and his grandfather in World War 2 so perhaps we shall continue the Tradition.

    You can't trust journalists!

    When asked about the whereabouts of the next consecrations, His Excellency gave no direct answer, perhaps Brazil, perhaps Europe, maybe even the United States.


    They came looking for Bishop Williamson to probe about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, but he was resting.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 10:16:52 AM »
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    Bishop Faure',  "I think we can call ourselves Roman Catholic first, secondly St Pius X, and now ... the Resistance."

    God love him.



    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rogue-catholic-bishops-plan-grow-schismatic-challenge-rome-200456706.html

     


    He should have stopped at Roman Catholic.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 10:22:06 AM »
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  • That's like saying one should never mention "I'm Roman Catholic oh and by the way a Dominican tertiary, or Holy Name Society member, etc. etc."

    I fail to see any problem with his statement.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 10:52:18 AM »
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    Bishop Faure',  "I think we can call ourselves Roman Catholic first, secondly St Pius X, and now ... the Resistance."

    God love him.



    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/rogue-catholic-bishops-plan-grow-schismatic-challenge-rome-200456706.html

     


    He should have stopped at Roman Catholic.


    I won't lie -- I wasn't jumping out of my seat shouting "YES!!!" when I read that quote from Bp. Faure.

    I understand that we have to be specific (i.e., "Traditional Catholic" to distinguish us from the conciliar Catholics) and "Resistance" is one of those terms. But why do we need the SSPX label as well? Let's move on already.

    If you're explaining the Resistance, you can say, "classic SSPX position" but I don't see the need to regularly use SSPX as well as Resistance when defining the specifics of our Catholicity.

    Resistance implies "conservative bloc which kept the old SSPX position when the SSPX split" already.
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    « Reply #12 on: March 31, 2015, 11:48:54 AM »
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    The enemies of God who have infiltrated the Conciliar Church will certainly not be happy about a small group resisting (and possibly undoing in the end) all their work.

    Those who infiltrated the Conciliar Church may have infiltrated Menzingen as well. If they have now taken notice of the Resistance, won't that be their next target?

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    A few other things were interesting ways of responding to the reporters comments. These reporters had the balls to ask if another World War would be good for the Catholic Church. His Excellency responded clearly that it would be horrible but maybe necessary who knows and that his great grandfather participated in World War 1 and his grandfather in World War 2 so perhaps we shall continue the Tradition.

    You can't trust journalists!

    When asked about the whereabouts of the next consecrations, His Excellency gave no direct answer, perhaps Brazil, perhaps Europe, maybe even the United States.


    They came looking for Bishop Williamson to probe about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, but he was resting.

    The old Soviets always regarded Western journalists as spies. I once thought that was communist propaganda or paranoia, but subsequent reports have proven those suspicions correct. One should be wary of allowing reporters (spies) to roam freely within one's compound. They are looking for chinks in the armor for reporting back to command central. Their crafting of reports for propaganda rags is only a secondary function.

    Expect a highly gifted, presentable, and pious-seeming young man to show up on the doorstep of the new seminary. His family will be known as long-time respected SSPX supporters but will also have been part of the satanic underground for many generations.

    This underground has a Marrano-style organization, is significantly but not entirely Jєωιѕн, and dominates world institutions. The Resistance will be powerless to stop such infiltration unless it humbly relinquishes that ubiquitous modern disdain against our greatest saints, popes, and kings enough to become reacquainted with the lore of the Inquisition.

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    « Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 11:56:43 AM »
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  • So if a pious young man shows up at a trad seminary, he should be thrown in the dungeon and put on the rack a few times, to make sure he's not a Marrano infiltrator?

    I think that's crazy.

    I don't think there IS a solution to such a sophisticated level of evil. Embracing paranoia is not an option. Committing grave sins against the 5th commandment (e.g., torturing innocent parties) is not an option.

    Catholics are GOING to be victims in this world. The good are always victimized by the wicked. That's what heaven and hell are for -- to balance the scales of justice and make everything right.

    Just remember how Christ conquered all on Good Friday. The ways of God are not the ways of men.

    Even Christ's own apostles didn't understand this, and all but 1 were scandalized when He was taken prisoner. The Jєωs of His time certainly didn't understand.
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    « Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 12:00:14 PM »
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    The enemies of God who have infiltrated the Conciliar Church will certainly not be happy about a small group resisting (and possibly undoing in the end) all their work.

    Those who infiltrated the Conciliar Church may have infiltrated Menzingen as well. If they have now taken notice of the Resistance, won't that be their next target?

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    A few other things were interesting ways of responding to the reporters comments. These reporters had the balls to ask if another World War would be good for the Catholic Church. His Excellency responded clearly that it would be horrible but maybe necessary who knows and that his great grandfather participated in World War 1 and his grandfather in World War 2 so perhaps we shall continue the Tradition.

    You can't trust journalists!

    When asked about the whereabouts of the next consecrations, His Excellency gave no direct answer, perhaps Brazil, perhaps Europe, maybe even the United States.


    They came looking for Bishop Williamson to probe about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, but he was resting.

    The old Soviets always regarded Western journalists as spies. I once thought that was communist propaganda or paranoia, but subsequent reports have proven those suspicions correct. One should be wary of allowing reporters (spies) to roam freely within one's compound. They are looking for chinks in the armor for reporting back to command central. Their crafting of reports for propaganda rags is only a secondary function.

    Expect a highly gifted, presentable, and pious-seeming young man to show up on the doorstep of the new seminary. His family will be known as long-time respected SSPX supporters but will also have been part of the satanic underground for many generations.

    This underground has a Marrano-style organization, is significantly but not entirely Jєωιѕн, and dominates world institutions. The Resistance will be powerless to stop such infiltration unless it humbly relinquishes that ubiquitous modern disdain against our greatest saints, popes, and kings enough to become reacquainted with the lore of the Inquisition.


    It's not that the reporters were given free access to roam around, it was quite the opposite.

    No one can be told that they cannot attend a Mass, as far as I know.  The reporters came and attended the Mass.  Afterwards Bishop Faure agreed to give a 20 minute interview.  That was all.  They asked who would shopw them around and were told "that's it".

    We were kind to them and offered to help them kick rocks...that's about it.

    Don't jump to conclusions about giving reporters free rein in the monastery.  It was quite the opposite.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...