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..as he continues to fret and bite his nails.
Quote from: BlackIrishQuote from: NobodyA great ship went down, many people end up in the water, two lucky ones found a dingy each. Mr Dingy 1 shouts to the others in the water : you idiots are wrong to be in the water, I am right to be in the dingy, get lost !Mr Dingy 2 reaches out to them : you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you.Mr Dingy 2 has charity. Mr Dingy 1 has not.Does that make Mr Dingy 2 a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight ?Charity covers a multitude of sins and pride comes before the fall.Quite the analogy, but okay, I'll bit . . . like the shark that you think I am! Mr. Dingy 2 would be a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight, if, after he said: "you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you" HE THEN SAYS: "I retract my opinions." And, on more than one occasion, while watching the others drown as he continues to fret and bite his nails. But, you know, Mr. Nobody, you are being uncharitable to the core, because you harp on these things. Others, like myself, just throw it out there and hope/pray that the words nudge someone to rethink their sloppy thinking!II Timothy 4:2 : "Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine."I Corinthians 13:1-4 : "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I should deliver my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely, is not puffed up,.."I guess the author of these verses was 'harping' too, and forgot to 'throw it out there' like you do.I Corinthians 10:12 : "Wherefore, he that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall."
Quote from: NobodyA great ship went down, many people end up in the water, two lucky ones found a dingy each. Mr Dingy 1 shouts to the others in the water : you idiots are wrong to be in the water, I am right to be in the dingy, get lost !Mr Dingy 2 reaches out to them : you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you.Mr Dingy 2 has charity. Mr Dingy 1 has not.Does that make Mr Dingy 2 a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight ?Charity covers a multitude of sins and pride comes before the fall.Quite the analogy, but okay, I'll bit . . . like the shark that you think I am! Mr. Dingy 2 would be a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight, if, after he said: "you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you" HE THEN SAYS: "I retract my opinions." And, on more than one occasion, while watching the others drown as he continues to fret and bite his nails. But, you know, Mr. Nobody, you are being uncharitable to the core, because you harp on these things. Others, like myself, just throw it out there and hope/pray that the words nudge someone to rethink their sloppy thinking!
A great ship went down, many people end up in the water, two lucky ones found a dingy each. Mr Dingy 1 shouts to the others in the water : you idiots are wrong to be in the water, I am right to be in the dingy, get lost !Mr Dingy 2 reaches out to them : you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you.Mr Dingy 2 has charity. Mr Dingy 1 has not.Does that make Mr Dingy 2 a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight ?Charity covers a multitude of sins and pride comes before the fall.
Quote from: BlackIrish..as he continues to fret and bite his nails.If he continues to 'fret and bite his nails' I will continue to encourage him, reprove, entreat in patience and doctrine.Was there ever a time when someone did the same for you, or were you born with infused knowledge and a full measure of virtue ?
Quote from: soulguardIf your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.Aarrrrghhhhh . . . reading your post is like being subjected to a verbal Chinese water torture . . .
If your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.
Quote from: BlackIrishQuote from: soulguardIf your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.Aarrrrghhhhh . . . reading your post is like being subjected to a verbal Chinese water torture . . . His posts make me feel like I've been crammed head-first onto a tilt-a-whirl ride and forced to read gibberish in upside down olde English as I'm spun at maximum speed.