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Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2019, 08:02:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: RoughAshlar on February 26, 2019, 06:45:31 AM
    Didn't he do this in Silver City before he left the SSPX? Thought I remember him with half a tonsure for a while.
    Fr. Hewko, while an SSPX priest, looked into a monastic vocation. He spent some time at a monastery (Silver City).
    He was spoken very highly of when I was at the seminary for this reason. It was explained to me that every cleric has a right to "go higher" or towards a more difficult/perfect vocation. Going from a secular priest to the religious life, for example. A vocation that is easier or less perfect, on the other hand, you always need a dispensation.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #16 on: February 26, 2019, 08:51:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Markus on February 25, 2019, 08:51:59 PM
    I agree, but why would God allow a miracle to happen in the Novus Ordo? Wouldn't that just confuse people?
    Who knows? He is God and can do as He wills.
    Maybe He did it so as to demonstrate the error of priests like Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko preaching that it is 100% devoid of sacramental grace, who knows?
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #17 on: February 26, 2019, 09:17:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Paul on February 25, 2019, 03:29:55 PM
    Give Fr. Hewko a break.

    He has been in a cult for seven years, the last four being the worst of it.  Of course he is going to defend the cult to some degree, until all becomes clear to him.  This will take time.

    In the meantime, leave him be and pray for him.
    Exactly! This "Convert Syndrome" is simply the residual effects of the cult programming.
    Deprogramming takes time and reeducation.
    In the meantime, continue praying.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #18 on: February 26, 2019, 09:36:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: JmJ2cents on February 25, 2019, 11:26:53 PM
    Fr. Hewko would be wise in taking a serious long break in a Monastery to do some praying and reflecting.  This is my prayer intention.   :pray:
    Agreed. Unlikely to happen - looks like Fr Hewko has been inundated with requests from Mass coordinators across the country  and as far away as Australia since his phone # and email address has been made public on Trad sites. I just saw on another site, he is scheduled to go to Australia in May.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #19 on: February 26, 2019, 10:00:35 AM »
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    • Markus:
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    I agree, but why would God allow a miracle to happen in the Novus Ordo? Wouldn't that just confuse people?

    It is above my level of competence or spiritual insight to know why God does much of anything.  I can not speak to the confusion which this incident might have caused.  But a couple of things we seem to know now, or, as we like to say, these are 'facts on the ground':
    1) A Eucharistic miracle occurred and was proven forensically.
    2) That miracle was performed in a NO church, apparently during a Novus Ordo Mass celebration.
    3) The miracle almost certainly did not happen in a TLM Mass setting.
    These facts may confuse people, I don't know.  But they didn't confuse the bishop.  He simply took them at face value and reported them out.  Since that time he has been pilloried and criticized mercilessly.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #20 on: February 26, 2019, 10:48:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: hollingsworth on February 26, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
    Markus:
    It is above my level of competence or spiritual insight to know why God does much of anything.  I can not speak to the confusion which this incident might have caused.  But a couple of things we seem to know now, or, as we like to say, these are 'facts on the ground':
    1) A Eucharistic miracle occurred and was proven forensically.
    2) That miracle was performed in a NO church, apparently during a Novus Ordo Mass celebration.
    3) The miracle almost certainly did not happen in a TLM Mass setting.
    These facts may confuse people, I don't know.  But they didn't confuse the bishop.  He simply took them at face value and reported them out.  Since that time he has been pilloried and criticized mercilessly.
    Did not some of these miracles happen before 2012 before? I do not recall Trads complaining about these until it became an issue against Bishop Williamson. It seems that any Novus Ordo Eucharistic Miracles was God's way to get the Novus ordo faithful to believe in the Real Presence again and hopefully they (Priests and faithful) will stop Communion in the hand. So for me, I have no problem believing in it (assuming it was thoroughly investigated and verified).
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #21 on: February 27, 2019, 10:36:28 AM »
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    Mr. G: Did not some of these miracles happen before 2012 before? I do not recall Trads complaining about these until it became an issue against Bishop Williamson. It seems that any Novus Ordo Eucharistic Miracles was God's way to get the Novus ordo faithful to believe in the Real Presence again and hopefully they (Priests and faithful) will stop Communion in the hand. So for me, I have no problem believing in it (assuming it was thoroughly investigated and verified).

    I think the Eucharistic miracle in question occurred in 1995, in Argentina, in the very diocese over which then Card. Bergoglio ruled. (Check me on that, though)  You can find a fairly decent video about it on Youtube.  There was a similar incident in Poland not too long ago. 
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #22 on: February 27, 2019, 10:58:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on February 26, 2019, 10:48:44 AM
    Did not some of these miracles happen before 2012 before? I do not recall Trads complaining about these until it became an issue against Bishop Williamson. It seems that any Novus Ordo Eucharistic Miracles was God's way to get the Novus ordo faithful to believe in the Real Presence again and hopefully they (Priests and faithful) will stop Communion in the hand. So for me, I have no problem believing in it (assuming it was thoroughly investigated and verified).

    Exactly.

    I don't see what the confusion is.

    First of all, DO NOT EVER attempt to wrap your mind around God or how He acts. "The Lord works in mysterious ways." His ways are not our ways. You would LITERALLY have an easier time scooping up the ocean into a small thimble. God is infinite; we have small, limited, meat brains.

    Second, this touches on the near-heresy held onto for dear life by the +Williamson haters: namely, a simplistic and exaggerated notion of the evil/invalidity/etc of the Novus Ordo Mass. Their view on the Novus Ordo Mass is something totally foreign to +Lefebvre; but that doesn't stop them.

    If they didn't have an exaggerated idea of the Novus Ordo Mass's evil, they wouldn't have ever had a problem with +Williamson.

    Remember, the devil can get you two ways on each heading: excess or defect.

    +Fellay and the accordistas are erring by DEFECT: not being critical or cautious enough about the Conciliar Church and all things pertaining to it.

    Some Sedevacantists, Pfeifferites, and other "free thinkers" are erring by EXCESS by saying the Novus Ordo is evil as a Black Mass in all cases, it is always and in every case mortally sinful to attend, it is positively evil, it is never valid, it is equal to a Protestant service simpliciter, etc.

    As always, the truth, the path of virtue, is in between AND ABOVE these two extremes.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #23 on: February 27, 2019, 11:04:01 AM »
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    • With regards to God granting a miracle to some poor Novus Ordo priests/attendees -- let's just say I'm glad God isn't as limited, cold hearted, or "too busy to mess with them" as so many Trads are.

    How many Trads are truly apostolic, truly put their money where their mouth is, truly make the salvation of souls their top priority, whatever their duty of state? Do we each spend our free time each day perfectly well?

    If not, then we should fall silent and thank God that He, at least, loves and cares for these poor lost souls.

    How many of us have managed to become saints in the meantime, even if we've had 0 success converting Novus Ordo Catholics to Tradition? I'm sure it would take a lot of patience. You don't think with some humility and prayer that God would grant us the patience?

    Feeling humble yet?

    It reminds me of another similar expression: "I'm glad that God is going to judge me, and not you!"
    Human beings can be so heartless, cruel, mean, and indifferent.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #24 on: February 27, 2019, 12:40:13 PM »
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    Matthew:With regards to God granting a miracle to some poor Novus Ordo priests/attendees -- let's just say I'm glad God isn't as limited, cold hearted, or "too busy to mess with them" as so many Trads are.
    Yes, I totally agree.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #25 on: March 05, 2019, 07:41:01 AM »
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    • Another Fr. Hewko sermon just came out.


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    @28.40mins Fr Hewko, without mentioning names, briefly advises faithful not to go to mass of priests who have introduced schismatic bishops

    What goes around, comes around I guess!

    Also goes to show just how "Pfeifferized" Fr. Hewko still is. He might have left the group, but his differences with the Pfeiffer cult are superficial. He and Fr. Pfeiffer share the same mindset, goals, outlook, position, etc.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #26 on: March 05, 2019, 09:53:41 AM »
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    • How do you define a schismatic bishop?  Doesn't new-rome define it as every Trad Bishop?  Which bishops are ok, per Fr Hewko?  Or was he referring to "bishop" moran?  ha ha.
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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #27 on: March 05, 2019, 11:14:37 AM »
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    • I often wonder whether these bible verses in Matthew 24 refer to the NO "miracles":

    23 Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him.  24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Fr Hewko has Convert Syndrome
    « Reply #28 on: March 07, 2019, 10:59:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 05, 2019, 07:41:01 AM
    Another Fr. Hewko sermon just came out.


    What goes around, comes around I guess!

    Also goes to show just how "Pfeifferized" Fr. Hewko still is. He might have left the group, but his differences with the Pfeiffer cult are superficial. He and Fr. Pfeiffer share the same mindset, goals, outlook, position, etc.

    Which sermon is that?
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