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Response to Fr. Simoulin
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2014, 09:02:55 PM »
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Quote from: SeanJohnson

Thirdly, is the troubling equivocation so prevalent in this article: On the one hand, you assert we cannot go the way of the Ecclesia Dei communities, but on the other hand, you assert that “the only thing we can hope for is the freedom to discuss Vatican II” (i.e., the same deal given to the Institute of the Good Shepherd, which was later predictably revoked). You appear to have embraced the writing style of the modernists (which is not to accuse you of being a modernist), who love to include phrases which appear to hold the line, only to negate them in the next sentence with a contradictory proposition.



If Fr. Simoulin has written with "troubling equivocation" and has really adopted "the style of the Modernists, who love to include phrases which appear to hold the line, only to negate them in the next sentence with a contradictory proposition," then why do you feel obliged to qualify your observation with "(which is not to accuse you of being a modernist)?"  

Why does it appear you feel obliged to walk on eggs and tiptoe through heresy?

Have you ever heard of a neo-Modernist, SeanJohnson?  


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Response to Fr. Simoulin
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 09:14:11 PM »
Quote from: ultrarigorist
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Ekim
Great letter Sean.  It has been over a month since it was written.  I'm guessing he never replied?


Hi Ekim-

Actually, I only wrote/posted it on April 3, but thus far there has been no response.

I am guessing Fr. Simoulin does not frequent this website, and therefore will likely remain unaware of it.


Ohh if it had his name on it, you can rest assured he's seen it.


This is reasonable, considering the power of search engines.  Of course, this thread with all the views it's had and the number of times the name 'Fr. Simoulin' has been repeated, adds to the likelihood.  

Hey, petwerp probably has an RSS feed on the thing -- otherwise, how can he expect his secretary to fill out his invoices, to the Menzingen-denizens-with-enquiring-minds-that-want-to-know?



As for the expectation of any reply:  Join the queue of the dozens of priests and hundreds of laity whose respectful letters to the Menzingen-denizens have gone unanswered for decades.  

Here is the de facto rule:  What You Write In Such A Letter Can And Will Be Used Against You At The First Opportunity.


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Response to Fr. Simoulin
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 08:34:23 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
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Quote from: SeanJohnson

Thirdly, is the troubling equivocation so prevalent in this article: On the one hand, you assert we cannot go the way of the Ecclesia Dei communities, but on the other hand, you assert that “the only thing we can hope for is the freedom to discuss Vatican II” (i.e., the same deal given to the Institute of the Good Shepherd, which was later predictably revoked). You appear to have embraced the writing style of the modernists (which is not to accuse you of being a modernist), who love to include phrases which appear to hold the line, only to negate them in the next sentence with a contradictory proposition.



If Fr. Simoulin has written with "troubling equivocation" and has really adopted "the style of the Modernists, who love to include phrases which appear to hold the line, only to negate them in the next sentence with a contradictory proposition," then why do you feel obliged to qualify your observation with "(which is not to accuse you of being a modernist)?"  

Why does it appear you feel obliged to walk on eggs and tiptoe through heresy?

Have you ever heard of a neo-Modernist, SeanJohnson?  


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Hello Neil-

I am answering your question in the form of a new thread, as it leads into another topic that has been on my mind lately.

Response to Fr. Simoulin
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2014, 03:52:11 AM »
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You know, if you have a half ounce of concern for anyone, especially a reader who sees this after a week or two, you would provide a link to the new thread, SeanJohnson, so that they could find what you're talking about.  

Alternatively, you wouldn't care if anyone knows what you're talking about.  

Your choice.  




Now, presuming I read the thread to which you refer (it seems to be the same topic), your reply above which says you've started a thread to answer my question, it's glaringly odd to me that after nine posts already, you have not yet answered my question.  

So you started a thread to answer a question that you're not going to answer in the thread that you started for that purpose, and maybe that's why you're not providing any links between threads so that nobody will ever put 2 and 2 together, like I'm doing here, correct?  or not?  

That makes two questions, BTW.


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Response to Fr. Simoulin
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2014, 04:04:56 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
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You know, if you have a half ounce of concern for anyone, especially a reader who sees this after a week or two, you would provide a link to the new thread, SeanJohnson, so that they could find what you're talking about.  

Alternatively, you wouldn't care if anyone knows what you're talking about.  

Your choice.  




Now, presuming I read the thread to which you refer (it seems to be the same topic), your reply above which says you've started a thread to answer my question, it's glaringly odd to me that after nine posts already, you have not yet answered my question.  

So you started a thread to answer a question that you're not going to answer in the thread that you started for that purpose, and maybe that's why you're not providing any links between threads so that nobody will ever put 2 and 2 together, like I'm doing here, correct?  or not?  

That makes two questions, BTW.


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I think you may be the only one struggling to find my response, which is odd, since you have responded to it several times.