Author Topic: Resistance Video Question (Read 3601 times)

obediens · « **on:** October 10, 2014, 03:18:24 AM »

Can someone please tell me what is going on in this video?!

It looks like one of the Resistance seminarians serving Mass, holding the chasuble at the Elevation.

If that is the case, would someone please teach these men how to use a biretta properly!

First of all, acolytes never wear a biretta! And secondly, even the bishop's zucchetto is removed at the end of the Secret and before the Preface begins... never worn in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament exposed.

ggreg · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2014, 03:43:06 AM »

And thus we see the Achillies Heel of the resistance and rad-Trads in general.

Attack first, ask questions later. No context, no understanding when this picture might have been taken, perhaps it was deliberately staged for the video, perhaps taken when the blessed sacrament was not present. I cannot see a red light in the sanctuary lamp, can you?

Perhaps the priest asked the photographer not to take a picture during the elevation out of respect for the blessed sacrament and the concentration of the laity at that very solemn moment, but during a practice run or much later after mass they got into position for a photograph. The server forgot to remove his hat.

Perhaps the photographer would not dream of taking a snap at such a solemn moment. Did you consider that, before posting this thread?

Collecting a bunch of hot heads into one place was never going to be a good idea. Clearly once out of the SSPX they would attack each other for their fashion sense, views, or where they go to mass on the off weeks when their priest cannot get into town.

But every cloud has a silver lining. I am now attending the SSPX again in the UK, after a long hiatus, and it feels just like the early 1980s again. People are more friendly after mass, most of the nutters have left and gone and formed their own little groups.

Wessex · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2014, 05:23:12 AM »

I could never understand this trend for socialising after Mass. In the good old days churches were packed and folk were eager to return to the real world and not engage in artificial banter. In any case, English Catholics were quite wary of these outposts of coarse Irishness and would prefer the company of their own kind of whatever persuasion. I am talking of large city parishes here.

Maybe the traditional experiment of Lefebvre brought together a more interesting collection in 1980's UK, particularly ex-Anglicans seeking a refuge, though there would be competition in the form of Fr. Oswald Baker for regular traditionalists. But my memory of the SSPX at that time suggests it was not a happy place. The somewhat liberal Fr. Black was trying it on all the time and he was too fond of wealthy old ladies and their property! Then and now I would say it requires a population of vigilant 'nutters' to keep the management on their toes because we are accustomed to the incorrigible duplicity of the priest class. Now that Fr. Morgan has finally decided where his bread and butter lies, he can preside over a much nicer group of undemanding people without any 'nutters' to trouble his conscience.

ggreg · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2014, 06:39:57 AM »

Opines a man to a bunch of virtual responders from a computer keyboard.

No wonder so many Trad men are single. :scratchchin:

The point of socialising after mass is to swap gossip, stories, have a bit of a moan, share a cup of tea, try someone's home-cooked cake or vitamin C powders with a bunch of liked minded people one respects for their attempt at remaining moral.

Same sort of stuff that goes on here except face to face with real flesh and blood.

What is one supposed to do otherwise? Go to the Dog and Duck to hear people talking about the size and shape of a celebrities boobs? Socialise with university pals who are shacked up with their latest paramour?

ggreg · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2014, 06:41:49 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

Now that Fr. Morgan has finally decided where his bread and butter lies, he can preside over a much nicer group of undemanding people without any 'nutters' to trouble his conscience.

Well, I must say he looks a lot better for it. Last time I saw him he was very chipper and looked five years younger.

stgobnait · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2014, 09:35:00 AM »

yes, he appears to have forgotten about the emerald isle of nutters alright, the temporary arrangment as superior here must have run its course, who's in charge now, i wonder.....

holysoulsacademy · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2014, 11:48:29 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

The somewhat liberal Fr. Black was trying it on all the time and he was too fond of wealthy old ladies and their property!

A recurring theme in the NO, Indult, FSSP, & SSPX.
Kyrie Eleison!

ggreg · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2014, 12:01:41 PM »

I seem to remember his National Front Pals frequenting the tearoom in Holloway Road back in the 80s. They would spend at least an hour in there after mass.

Matthew · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2014, 12:02:34 PM »

Deep into page two, still looking for a post in this thread I can agree with!

A nit-picky post about clerical attire, some Irish/English SSPX politics, and a rather anti-clerical post by Wessex.

The whole thread is worthless.

Wessex seems quite bitter about something...seems a bit anti-Clerical. He's lost all trust after being burned so many times? Sad.

ggreg · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2014, 12:06:39 PM »

Perhaps he's still looking for a cleric who agrees with him.

overmind · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »

Can I be the first to say "Splitters" !

Pete Vere · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2014, 12:08:18 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

Opines a man to a bunch of virtual responders from a computer keyboard.

No wonder so many Trad men are single. :scratchchin:

The biggest reason I hear from eligible young traditionalist ladies bemoaning the lack of eligible traditional bachelors is inability to find and hold suitable employment.

In fact, the other day my wife and I ran into a friend's daughter. Their family splits their time between the SSPX and the Resistance.

The daughter is everything a traditional young man would hope for in potential wife: pious, modest, intelligent, friendly, from a family that has been associated with the traditionalist movement since the early 80's, extremely diligent in caring for her elderly parents and helping older siblings look after nieces and nephews, employed in a semi-professional capacity, an excellent cook, and attractive.

She has attracted attention from young men at the local and neighbouring trad chapels. However, she has broken off her last three potential love interests for the same reason: their inability to find and hold down full-time employment.

"I'm not asking that he be a doctor or lawyer or rich business professional," she said. "I just want to him to hold down a job. One suitable for raising a family."

peterp · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2014, 07:37:32 PM »

Quote from: Pete Vere

Quote from: ggreg
Opines a man to a bunch of virtual responders from a computer keyboard.

No wonder so many Trad men are single. :scratchchin:

The biggest reason I hear from eligible young traditionalist ladies bemoaning the lack of eligible traditional bachelors is inability to find and hold suitable employment.

In fact, the other day my wife and I ran into a friend's daughter. Their family splits their time between the SSPX and the Resistance.

The daughter is everything a traditional young man would hope for in potential wife: pious, modest, intelligent, friendly, from a family that has been associated with the traditionalist movement since the early 80's, extremely diligent in caring for her elderly parents and helping older siblings look after nieces and nephews, employed in a semi-professional capacity, an excellent cook, and attractive.

She has attracted attention from young men at the local and neighbouring trad chapels. However, she has broken off her last three potential love interests for the same reason: their inability to find and hold down full-time employment.

"I'm not asking that he be a doctor or lawyer or rich business professional," she said. "I just want to him to hold down a job. One suitable for raising a family."

What then, in your opinion, is the principal reason why a traditional young (and possibly not so young) man cannot find and hold suitable employment? And is there a distinction between different trad groups (e.g. SSPX vs FSSP)?

MyrnaM · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:00:04 PM »

Quote from: Pete Vere

Quote from: ggreg
Opines a man to a bunch of virtual responders from a computer keyboard.

No wonder so many Trad men are single. :scratchchin:

The biggest reason I hear from eligible young traditionalist ladies bemoaning the lack of eligible traditional bachelors is inability to find and hold suitable employment.

In fact, the other day my wife and I ran into a friend's daughter. Their family splits their time between the SSPX and the Resistance.

The daughter is everything a traditional young man would hope for in potential wife: pious, modest, intelligent, friendly, from a family that has been associated with the traditionalist movement since the early 80's, extremely diligent in caring for her elderly parents and helping older siblings look after nieces and nephews, employed in a semi-professional capacity, an excellent cook, and attractive.

She has attracted attention from young men at the local and neighbouring trad chapels. However, she has broken off her last three potential love interests for the same reason: their inability to find and hold down full-time employment.

"I'm not asking that he be a doctor or lawyer or rich business professional," she said. "I just want to him to hold down a job. One suitable for raising a family."

I wish I could introduce her to my last son, age 42, financial secure, with a good job, 6'5" good guy but never married for some strange reason. Of course he is cute, he is my son. All his siblings are married and I want more grandchildren, I only have 22 right now.

If he thought I was even trying to set him us, he would be angry at me. lol!

Pete Vere · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:08:13 PM »

Quote from: peterp

What then, in your opinion, is the principal reason why a traditional young (and possibly not so young) man cannot find and hold suitable employment? And is there a distinction between different trad groups (e.g. SSPX vs FSSP)?

What follows are simply impressions and loose stereotypes.

FSSP and Ecclesia Dei groups are almost indistinguishable, in my experience, from Catholic conservatives. Some young men do really well, some not so well, some in the middle.

I have noticed that a number of sede young men tend to be advantaged because their parents often push them into STEMM-related areas (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics, Medicine) at local colleges since they don't trust any of the Catholic colleges or arts, humanities or social science programmes and faculties. Some of it may also be that sedevacantism in my experience tends to draw a high percentage of traditional Catholics who are professionally qualified in STEMM-related areas.

Among FSSPX young men in the Northern hemisphere, I find the continental Europeans tend to be the best educated and steadiest in terms of their employment.

But again, this is a lot generalization. There are many exceptions.