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Offline Tradplorable

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Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
« on: November 16, 2017, 12:55:26 PM »
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    • Please list any priests trained or ordained by Bp. W since the 2012 split.

    I am not aware of any, but if there are, please enlighten me, people of good will of CI.

    Thank you.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:04 PM »
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    • If anyone would like to include Bp. Faure in this, I'd appreciate it. I know he attempted a seminary of sorts at one point, but I'm not sure if it is still operational or if Bp. Faure has ordained any priests.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 02:07:15 PM »
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    • Aside from possible re-ordinations, I'm only aware of one seminarian who has reached major orders:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/major-orders-brazil-secular-seminarian/
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 02:33:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on November 16, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
    If anyone would like to include Bp. Faure in this, I'd appreciate it. I know he attempted a seminary of sorts at one point, but I'm not sure if it is still operational or if Bp. Faure has ordained any priests.
    Yes, Bishop Faure's seminary and the Society he started is still in operation and I slowly growing: http://sajm-siteofficiel.blogspot.com/2017/08/entrevue-avec-monseigneur-faure-pour.html
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 02:38:50 PM »
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    • Br. André OSB was ordained both as a deacon and priest by Bishop Williamson in Brazil in 2014. I was at both of the ordinations. He also encouraged Bishop Thomas Aquinas to ordain Br. Miguel, who was ordained a deacon recently and will be ordained a priest next month.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 02:42:52 PM »
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    • Wasn't there an ordination in the Philippines? 
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 03:19:30 PM »
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 09:25:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on November 16, 2017, 12:55:26 PM
    Please list any priests trained or ordained by Bp. W since the 2012 split.

    I am not aware of any, but if there are, please enlighten me, people of good will of CI.

    Thank you.

    Hmm... provocative topic Tradplorable ?

    Yeah, what ever happened to Bp. Williamson's program of seminarians working & studying under the direction of Resistance priests?

    That plan was supposed to give us mobility and flexibility in accelerating ordinations  :jumping2:

    His neo-trad counterpart, Bp. Fellay, is hitting at least 15 or more ordinations annually.

    No priests... no resistance.  

    Guess we'll have to wheel-out the "doubtful" Thuc line bishops to keep the Resistance ordinations coming?

    After all, the Sacrament of the "laying of hands", like Baptism, is not so complicated or "kosher".
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 09:31:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 16, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
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    Hmm... provocative topic Tradplorable ?

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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 09:47:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on November 16, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
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    Oh no... :facepalm:
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #10 on: November 18, 2017, 08:13:32 AM »
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    • Bishop Williamson was in Frace recently (on October) and he said about the seminary in Avrillé :
    "Bishop Faure was absolutely right to open a seminary and it was necessary. Archbishop Lefebvre would have done the same thing."

     
    I think Bishop Willliamson is more optimistic about the future because Bishop Faure certainly gave him hope.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #11 on: November 22, 2017, 06:47:10 AM »
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    • Rev Fr Suneel was ordained in India by Bishop Faure; Fr John Marie Therese was ordained in Brazil in 2016 by Bishop Thomas Aquinas OSB; Bishop Williamson ordained a priest in Polonia this year, and just recently Bishop Thomas Aquinas OSB ordained a priest from his area, but I cannot remember his name.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 10:26:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Centroamerica on November 16, 2017, 02:38:50 PM
    Br. André OSB was ordained both as a deacon and priest by Bishop Williamson in Brazil in 2014. I was at both of the ordinations. He also encouraged Bishop Thomas Aquinas to ordain Br. Miguel, who was ordained a deacon recently and will be ordained a priest next month.


    Is this the same Bro. Andre? This was on 03/28/15

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2015/03/rp-andres-zelaya-osb-un-nuevo-sacerdote.html
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #13 on: November 22, 2017, 01:24:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora on November 22, 2017, 10:26:42 AM

    Is this the same Bro. Andre? This was on 03/28/15

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2015/03/rp-andres-zelaya-osb-un-nuevo-sacerdote.html

    Yes, you are correct. He was ordained by Bishop Faure a little after his own consecration, which I also attended. My memory seemed to fail me. There was a lot happening in Brazil during those times and I was at the Holy Cross monastery running on little to no sleep.
    One little tidbit I don’t forget, however, was the long bus ride with Bishop Williamson to a church near Brasilia in 2014 where Bishop Williamson ordained Bro. André a deacon in a diocesan church friendly to the Catholic resistance.
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    Re: Resistance Priests Ordained since 2012 split?
    « Reply #14 on: November 22, 2017, 09:05:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gail on November 22, 2017, 06:47:10 AM
    Rev Fr Suneel was ordained in India by Bishop Faure; Fr John Marie Therese was ordained in Brazil in 2016 by Bishop Thomas Aquinas OSB; Bishop Williamson ordained a Polish priest in Poland this year, and just recently Bishop Thomas Aquinas OSB ordained a priest from his area, but I cannot remember his name.
    Also Friar John from the Philippines and very recently Fr Francis who was at OLMC seminary but was ordained elsewhere.
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