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Resistance in Oregon- is it only OLMC?
« on: June 06, 2016, 09:24:45 PM »
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  • Does anyone know if any resistance priests other than OLMC are saying Mass in Veneta (fairly regularly) or the surrounding area? Thanks.


    Offline St Ignatius

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    Resistance in Oregon- is it only OLMC?
    « Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 10:47:10 PM »
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  • I thought Fr Girard was visiting those parts occasionally... but it could have been just in the Washington area. It's been some time ago that I've heard of just where Fr Girard is going. Sorry I couldn't provide something more concrete.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 03:35:15 PM »
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  • As far as I know, Fr. Pfeiffer is the only Resistance priest who comes to Veneta, OR (about every 6-8 weeks).  I was concerned enough about his remarks on video that Fr. Tetherow was "a friend" to call him last week and ask him about the laicization and the civil criminal charges.  He said Tetherow was still a priest, that he was innocent of any child porn charges, and that it was a mortal sin to believe these things! Not to mention that Fr. Tetherow was a novus ordo priest, presumably ordained in the new rite--how could that be acceptable to Fr. P.?  But we got disconnected before we could finish our conversation (well, it was actually an interrogation).

    We went to the SSPX chapel last Sunday, for the first time in over a year. (We haven't gone to a Pfeiffer Mass since April when he offended my husband; and I had gotten an unsatisfactory answer, the Mass before that, to my question about "Bishop" Moran.)  There was a brand new young priest at St. Thomas Beckett chapel.  I didn't catch his name, but I believe it was his very first sermon. Although he didn't castigate Vatican II or Rome, it was a wonderful sermon, and he appeared very devout.  We plan to attend the SSPX chapel exclusively in the future, for, as you know, there are no other options for those of us in the area; because of that, it's been a painful time.  

    I have obtained the 15-volume set of Gueranger's The Liturgical Year and will just have to read the Sunday readings and commentary in between our two hour Mass sojourns on a deer-infested winding road with no shoulders.  I have gotten my local novus ordo parish priest to give me Confessional absolution in the Old Rite, in Latin.  (Fr. P. would have to approve, since it's acceptable for Tetherow to be NO-ordained too, right?)  I am not saying this to complain--I'm grateful that the trip is not longer--but I want to demonstrate that this kind of ad hoc program is what many of us orphans must arrange for ourselves--so sad.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 09:20:50 PM »
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  • You could check out this resource:

    http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/masslat.pdf


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    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2016, 02:11:40 PM »
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  • Thanks, AJNC,
    But the only option on that list within a 4-5 hour drive is Fr. Pfeiffer's Mass.  In fact, that site is the place where I found that location; it's a good resource.  I'm not willing to become a home-aloner; so as long as the Mass is traditional, the priest doesn't preach error, and Bp. Fellay doesn't marry the devil, it's back to the "neo-SSPX," I guess.  It's funny, I saw some of the same people at BOTH Masses, and they are too chicken to let anyone at SSPX to know about the Resistance Mass for fear of being ejected. Bwaaak!


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    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2016, 03:27:29 PM »
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  • Seems to me, Rosary girl, that you will settle for very little.  A priest is OK as long as he teaches the "truth," as you see it, and celebrates the Old Mass.  He can be a thief and a liar in his own personal conduct.  But, hey, he's validly ordained.  That's all that counts.  I would not myself drive hours to be in the Mass of such a priest. RG, would you attend the Mass of a "validly ordained" priest whom you knew to be a pedophile?

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    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 08:35:52 AM »
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  • I found this on www.bishop-accountability.org regarding Fr Tetherow. Many years ago he began showing up at our chapel in Eddystone and a few knew the story. Everyone had a different version of his story to offer. I submitted this newspaper report my pastor since it states the origin of the story (reporter and paper) and that it states facts that could only come from a police report. No editor would print such statements unless he had an official statement (police report) to be protected from a lawsuit. I offered to many disbelieving people in my chapel that such a story in the Scranton Times that stated dates, the priests name, his actions (turning himself in and the story stating that he admitted to doing it) was good enough for me. If a paper reported that I drove to a specific police department and confessed on a specific date, and also described in detail what was on my laptop that was damaging to my reputation, and it was false information, I would own the paper!  

    http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/2005_03_18_Birk_PriestFaces_Virgil_Tetherow_2.htm

    "On Jan. 31, Father Tetherow drove to Pocono Mountain police headquarters and admitted to downloading child porn from January to December 2004 on the secretary's computer as well as the one in his rectory room , according to the criminal complaint."

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    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 08:58:39 AM »
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  • I might also add that I was a material witness for a 100 million dollar lawsuit against the Diocese of Philadelphia back in 2002. I also contributed to the Grand Jury Investigation about 45 pages of how the diocese spun the case I was involved in and the stupid things people say and do because they can't deal with the ugly facts of such violations. Stepping forward helped led to the defrocking of Fr. Jones and the sentencing of Fr William Lynn, the first priest convicted by the State who was not a sɛҳuąƖ violator, but an enabler.

    I was a Catholic HS teacher at Cardinal O'Hara in 1984-85 and in June of 2004 the diocese defrocked about 8 priests. Four of whom were teaching at O'Hara the year I was there.

    (What was it that Corey Feldman said about Hollywood Pedophiles? "I was surrounded by them!")

    When ever these stories come up, I cringe. If you've been down the rabbit hole of the priest sex scandal you'll know that rarely do you get a cool head to work the facts. (That was the joy of a Grand Jury Investigation.) Also, the minute you mention that you yourself where personally approached by the violator and resisted, there is a bias placed on you that requires some people to hold you in total contempt. Question after question. Fact checking to the point of asking "what color the clouds were that day."   Its an experience (interrogation) I wouldn't trade for all the money in the world but also wouldn't wish on my enemies.




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    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 12:57:33 PM »
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  • FirebalXLS, it took a lot of courage to speak up back then.  I remember back in the late '90's when the scandals were breaking in the Los Angeles Times about Card. "Millstone" Mahoney's cover ups--which nobody talked about, as if they weren't happening!  It took people like you to expose the cockroaches to the light.

    And Hollingsworth--did I not make it clear that I was going to exclusively attend the SSPX?  I was talking about Bp. F. and the "neo" SSPX being acceptable as long as they weren't novus ordo, etc.--NOT Fr. P.!  (There I was also including sermons by Fr. Ripperger and Fr. Wolfe of the FSSP.  I know that the FSSP has, technically, "sold out" to Rome, but I am no longer as "pure" as I was before, living in such a godforsaken place.)
    Please read more carefully before you go off on me.  You skipped the part where I said I hadn't been to a Fr. P. Mass for months (ever since I learned about the Fr. T. info--again, from this forum).

    As far as Fr. P. himself is concerned, I had heard about Pablo and the problems in "KFC" less than a year ago (and had my own run-in with him), and figured it was just a matter of bad judgement.  And, giving him the benefit, even the Fr. Voigt story could have been seen from different angles.  

    Then came the "Bishop Ambrose" affair, which greatly alarmed me, because it concerned the matter of valid sacraments.  I wondered how he could so naïvely believe all that, despite  the contrary evidence piling up. When the Tetherow info came to me, it was the same situation all over again.  I was determined to approach him and get some real answers this time. (I took notes of the whole conversation the next day in the best Scolfari tradition, and would like to relate the entire thing, if someone asks.)  Fool me once, shame on you...right?  So there ain't no third time.  

    My friends had kept directing me to "RumorInfo.com" every time a new Father P. episode occurred. So I, being drawn to the Resistance AND also not susceptible to cult-like thinking, began to have more and more doubts about Father P.  This was the last straw.

    My views have been a little less rigid lately.  There are so few of us left in the lifeboat that is the Barque.  The Church is going through her crucifixion NOW!  We must stand firm in our beliefs but also help other Catholics discover the True Faith and not give them up for lost--or write nasty things to them.  God help us all!

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    « Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 02:05:57 PM »
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  • FireballXL5 do you know John Modler?

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    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2016, 06:57:15 PM »
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  • Real McCoy: I'm not familiar with him.