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Offline Samuel

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Re: Resistance Directory
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2018, 09:24:28 PM »
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  • fr. Morel had two chapels , both in baton rouge I think, but one was flooded.  
    This is the number I have always used.

    Ok, I'll keep the name as is, until asked to change it.


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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #16 on: February 10, 2018, 11:26:38 AM »
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  • This shows one of the problems of not having a recognized authority.

    So what?

    We can't do anything about it. We'll be happy to follow the Pope once he converts back to the Catholic Faith. Until then, we're on our own. We have no choice. It's Traditional Catholicism 101.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #17 on: February 10, 2018, 12:27:02 PM »
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    The importance of discretion concerning the Resistance cannot be overstated. We are at war after all, with Principalities and their human minions.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #18 on: February 10, 2018, 01:05:29 PM »
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  • There are two sides in the discussion.

    1. Some say we should put everything out in the open -- chapel locations, sermons, etc. and publish everything on the front page of CathInfo for all (friends, foes and in between) to see. Their watchword is, "Have no fear of the Jєωs".

    2. Others say that there is a legitimate need for discretion, in this age of frivolous lawsuits, scattered faithful, limited resources, and only a few priests who travel to service 95% of the resistant Faithful, and attacks/propaganda of all sorts from all sides -- the SSPX, Conciliar Church, and "fringe" elements claiming to be Resistance (read: Fr. Pfeiffer's group)
    Their watchword is, "Discretion is the better part of valor."


    I can understand both sides, but that includes the second group. If everything and every event were published on the front page of CathInfo, what is to stop a zealous Pfeifferite, Pablo the Mexican, or Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer himself from calling up the event's location and "putting them in the picture" (as the British say) or "giving them an earful" (as the Americans say) about Bishop Williamson, especially his more controversial positions?

    Or filing a frivolous lawsuit? Even a frivolous, completely unfounded lawsuit can take a lot of a priest's time and resources to fight.

    Or interfering with the priest's apostolate? What if a priest is trying to acquire property and has to get clearance from a city council? What if individuals on that council are made to go against the sale, by the priests' many enemies?

    Or by taking recorded/written sermons, a priest's words can be twisted to say just about anything, and serve as propaganda against them.

    Remember -- for many of our enemies, "the ends justify the means". They will stop at nothing, and hold back from no means, which will advance "their cause". That includes all sorts of devious devices and maneuvers: slander, calumny, lying, spying, etc. I have seen them do this! And we're talking about so-called Traditional Catholics: SSPX, Fr. Pfeiffer's cult, etc.

    As Kazimierz said -- this is war. And war isn't about running out into the battlefield with a blood curdling scream, madly flailing two swords around. Some might call that bravery, manliness, or even the only way to fight. But I say that's a quick way to get oneself killed and out of the game. If you want to win the war, you have to have strategy and discretion.

    And furthermore, the enemies in question don't concern themselves with the "blood curdling scream while flailing two swords" type. Such opponents are short-lived, get nowhere, burn out, and are of no long-term consequence. For example, Fr. Pfeiffer. The real danger to our enemies comes from the experienced fighters who have truth, wisdom, self-control and discretion.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #19 on: February 10, 2018, 01:22:46 PM »
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  • Some things are better left private, but other things need to be public:


    Public:

    1) Mass locations, time, and contact information (I recognize some locations only receive Masses intermittently/irregularly, and public announcements may not always be possible, but so long as someone from that chapel can be reached, people will be able to know when the next Mass will be). 
     
    2) Priest, bishop, and congregation contact information.

    The SSPX always had these things published, and Mossad hit squads never took their priests or faithful out, bombed their churches, or toilet papered their properties.


    Private:

    1) Financial plans which convey strategy (e.g., Matthew mentions property acquisition);
    2) Any sensitive information.

    One of the problems today is that Masses in private residences hinder people's willingness to advertise Masses.  For this reason, it is better to have Mass in a hotel/hall than private houses.  Public locations are also "neutral," so that if there is friction within Resistance parishes between private persons, people will be more willing to attend a neutral location, than hear Mass in someone's house they may be in disagreement with.

    I am aware of a couple times where Bishop Williamson actually did have his Mass venues cancelled because of outside interference, but in America, that is only possible in public (i.e., government) buildings.  Private halls, hotels, etc. would be sued for religious discrimination if they were to pull that.

    Just some thoughts half of you will disagree with; flame away!
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #20 on: February 10, 2018, 01:58:58 PM »
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  • Public:

    1) Mass locations, time, and contact information (I recognize some locations only receive Masses intermittently/irregularly, and public announcements may not always be possible, but so long as someone from that chapel can be reached, people will be able to know when the next Mass will be).
     

    There is always a half-way measure: giving out a point of contact (e.g., a gmail address) that people can contact for the Mass location/times. It requires an extra, proactive step to get there, which MIGHT deter a few troublemakers.

    Let's put it this way -- since I was with the Resistance from the very beginning, I was involved with Fr. Pfeiffer (who was, let's face it, one of the pioneers). This was before he went off the rails. He published his list of chapels far and wide, and my chapel (here on my property) was on his list.

    I didn't have too many problems, since this is Texas and the biggest problem in the Trad world around here is APATHY, not controversy between different chapels/groups. Plus the geography of Texas acts like an isolation wall to keep people out. You have to REALLY WANT TO GET HERE, almost as bad as Alaska. At least we have paved roads. But even the well-traveled Pablo has never bothered to come here, as a friend or as an enemy. It's just too far of a drive for most people.

    However, one strange man did show up unannounced at our home. He was wearing a brown habit and he called himself a Franciscan. He hitchhiked as far as the nearby gas station, then walked here. I don't think he knew of any "true" Catholic priests at the time he showed up at my door. He didn't support Fr. Pfeiffer, but he got his public list of Mass locations. I guess he was hoping my chapel was the answer to his prayers, to find "the Last Catholic Priest" or something. I was polite, but eventually he just stopped talking and left -- walking down the street back to the highway so he could hitchhike somewhere else on his journey.

    Perhaps it was a good thing that I was home -- imagine if my wife had been home with the kids, and some strange man showed up -- you don't know what a strange man might want to do.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #21 on: February 10, 2018, 11:52:21 PM »
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  • This is what I have:
    Our Lady of Sorrows Chapel
    3475 N. Sherwood Forest Blvd., Baton Rouge, LA 70814
    Fr. Morel, (225) 272-0289
    I don't have an email address.  You just have to keep trying the phone...  last time I tried, fr. Morel answered.
    A note just came my way that this is the contact information for the SSPX chapel in Baton Rouge.
    Take it off your list, stat!  : )
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #22 on: February 11, 2018, 12:00:37 AM »
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  • A note just came my way that this is the contact information for the SSPX chapel in Baton Rouge.
    Take it off your list, stat!  : )

    Do you mean the phone number, or the priest (Fr. Morel) and all his chapels, or just this one Chapel ?

    I have another chapel listed for Fr. Morel (Our Lady of Fatima Chapel in Lacombe).


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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #23 on: February 11, 2018, 12:07:30 AM »
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  • Everything in Fanny's post was the info for the SSPX chapel (as you can see on their website) except the priest. I believe Fr. Morel was at that chapel prior to leaving the SSPX in 2012.

    Fr. Morel does say Mass in Baton Rouge and I might have that info for you tomorrow.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #24 on: February 11, 2018, 12:10:21 AM »
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  • Ok, thanks for passing this on. I have removed the contact details but left "Our Lady of Good Hope Chapel" listed with Fr. Morel, without contact details.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #25 on: February 11, 2018, 12:25:39 AM »
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  • Sorry, confused:

    Is Fr. Morel a Resistance priest or not?

    If so, what's the contact info for his chapel(s)?

    If he's just another independent, no worries (i.e,, Who cares).
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #26 on: February 11, 2018, 10:14:48 PM »
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  • Do you mean the phone number, or the priest (Fr. Morel) and all his chapels, or just this one Chapel ?

    I have another chapel listed for Fr. Morel (Our Lady of Fatima Chapel in Lacombe).
    I am sorry for the mistake.
    I havent called him in a while. 

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #27 on: February 11, 2018, 10:25:27 PM »
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  • Here's more info on Fr. Morel's Mass locations in Louisiana:

    Our Lady of Fatima
    77110 Vortisch Road
    Lacombe, LA 70444
    Sunday Mass 8:30 am
    Confessions before Mass
    Holy Days of Obligation and Feast Days announced


    Our Lady of Hope
    750 Oak Villa Boulevard
    Baton Rouge, LA  70815
    (rented space)
    Sunday Mass 11:30 am
    Confessions before Mass
    Holy Days of Obligation and Feast Days announced

    The Lacombe chapel will have Mass on Ash Wednesday at 7 am. Ashes for the Baton Rouge location will be next Sunday.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #28 on: February 11, 2018, 10:39:26 PM »
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  • Thank you, I have passed on the info and updated the Directory.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 10:11:32 AM »
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  • Here's more info on Fr. Morel's Mass locations in Louisiana:

    Our Lady of Fatima
    77110 Vortisch Road
    Lacombe, LA 70444
    Sunday Mass 8:30 am
    Confessions before Mass
    Holy Days of Obligation and Feast Days announced


    Our Lady of Hope
    750 Oak Villa Boulevard
    Baton Rouge, LA  70815
    (rented space)
    Sunday Mass 11:30 am
    Confessions before Mass
    Holy Days of Obligation and Feast Days announced

    The Lacombe chapel will have Mass on Ash Wednesday at 7 am. Ashes for the Baton Rouge location will be next Sunday.

    Good morning, 
    Does Fr. Morel have a phone number we can contact him at? 
    I will be in New Orleans for business March 3rd - March 7th. I was hoping Fr. Morel would be offering a Saturday Mass to allow me to complete the Five First Saturdays. 
    If not, I understand as well. 
    Thank you! God bless.