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Offline SeanJohnson

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Resistance Directory
« on: January 11, 2018, 05:19:34 PM »
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    • Samuel has just started putting together a Worldwide Resistance Directory, which you can access and contribute to here:

    http://tradidi.com/directory



    MODERATOR WARNING:

    Just a warning to any potential users of this Resistance Directory:

    USA, Texas, Dallas, St. Joseph's

    This chapel has secured the services of a Thuc-line priest. No SSPX training, no Resistance training or affiliation, no communication or affiliation with any of the Resistance bishops, and no connection with +Lefebvre or any of his line of bishops. How this independent chapel can consider itself Resistance is beyond me.

    His training and ordination are both under suspicion because he is Thuc line. And any sane Sedevacantist would agree with me: being Thuc-line is NOT a stamp of quality or guarantee of any kind. 

    If a priest is Thuc-line, you really have to research!

    There are some Thuc-line bishops who will ordain and/or consecrate ANYONE. Even those without training, or sufficient training. Same for morality.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR.


    PS. No, I don't know who the priest is, but I am passing on information from someone who does. If you are considering attending this chapel, you need to ask the coordinator a simple honest question: who is the priest? And if she refuses to answer, then act accordingly.

    Just like many people said in various Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer/Ambrose Moran threads: when the whole world desperately needs good, Traditional, well-trained priests (or bishops), and you "miraculously" find one in days or weeks even though others have given up after years of searching, you really have to ask yourself: Is this too good to be true?

    My momma always said: When something is too good to be true, it usually is.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 07:05:31 AM »
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    • Thank you Samuel!!  :pray:

    Hopefully more North American chapels and missions will add their information, as well as Mass schedules and expected visits.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 11:21:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on January 12, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
    I thought Pablo was head of the worldwide resistance??
    :jester:
    Seriously, what about mission locations and mass times?
    Samuel has just provided the bones of the directory, and given it a start (i.e., a publicly posted format as a resource for people to look up).

    But it is up to you (and everyone else) to send him the details of the chapels/times/dates/locations/details.

    He doesn't have any way of knowing/posting all that.

    That is why his announcement requests you (all) to send the info.

    If nobody is willing to do that, I suggest they quit whining about not having the info!

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 11:54:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on January 12, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
    I thought Pablo was head of the worldwide resistance??
    :jester:
    Seriously, what about mission locations and mass times?
    I am happy to put up any information you want included in your mission's page: Mass times, location, directions, flyers, events, ..

    Some people prefer to remain hidden for fear of the Jєωs/Pfeifferites/etc.., but I don't see any danger in providing at least a Name/Area/Contact so people in your area who are interested in coming along know you are out there and how to find out more.

    I can also give each coordinator access to update their own details if they prefer that.

    Any other suggestions welcome. I just won't be able to compete with "the head" in the area of exorcisms :D
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 02:30:59 PM »
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    • Bp Zendejas - South Salem, NY
    Donations: SEA, Inc.
    P.O. Box 854
    Norwalk, CT 06856-0854


    I don't know the names of all of these chapels:

    St. Athanasius Church, Vienna, VA, USA - Fr. Ringrose
    Stella Maris Chapel, La Marque, TX, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    _____________, Danbury, CT, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    St. Joseph's, Aldergrove, BC, Canada - Fr. Girouard
    Our Lady of Fatima Chapel, Lacombe, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    Our Lady of Good Hope, Baton Rouge, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    _____________, Reenascreena, Co. Cork, Ireland - Frs. McDonald & Ballini & ??
    Our Lady of Good Success Chapel, Syracuse, NY, USA - Fr. Voigt
    Our Lady of Good Success, Spokane, WA, USA - Fr. Voigt


    I don't know who's deciding who makes the cut, but here's some more:
    Our Lady of Mt Carmel Mission, Chicago, IL, USA - Fr. Arizaga
    Star of the Sea Mission, Charlottetown, PEI, Canada - Fr. Roy
    (other Fr. Roy chapels at link below)

    For chapels in Europe and more!, there's info here: http://ordo-resistance.blogspot.fr/p/europe.html
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2018, 03:12:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on January 12, 2018, 11:54:49 AM
    I am happy to put up any information you want included in your mission's page: Mass times, location, directions, flyers, events, ..

    Some people prefer to remain hidden for fear of the Jєωs/Pfeifferites/etc.., but I don't see any danger in providing at least a Name/Area/Contact so people in your area who are interested in coming along know you are out there and how to find out more.

    I can also give each coordinator access to update their own details if they prefer that.

    Any other suggestions welcome. I just won't be able to compete with "the head" in the area of exorcisms :D
    Thank you, Samuel. 
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 03:31:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on January 14, 2018, 03:11:51 PM
    In my opinion fr. Voigt should not be on the list.
    That figures! I thought he was one of the few un-controversial inclusions and yet you seem to disagree. Just goes to show you what kind of mess creating such a list is going to be. Although, in this case you could "exclude" him and the list would be the same as his Mass locations would overlap with everyone else working with the bishops in the USA -- Fr. Ortiz has said Mass in Syracuse, other priests have offered Mass in Post Falls.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 06:46:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on January 14, 2018, 02:30:59 PM
    Bp Zendejas - South Salem, NY
    Donations: SEA, Inc.
    P.O. Box 854
    Norwalk, CT 06856-0854


    I don't know the names of all of these chapels:

    St. Athanasius Church, Vienna, VA, USA - Fr. Ringrose
    Stella Maris Chapel, La Marque, TX, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    _____________, Danbury, CT, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    St. Joseph's, Aldergrove, BC, Canada - Fr. Girouard
    Our Lady of Fatima Chapel, Lacombe, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    Our Lady of Good Hope, Baton Rouge, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    _____________, Reenascreena, Co. Cork, Ireland - Frs. McDonald & Ballini & ??
    Our Lady of Good Success Chapel, Syracuse, NY, USA - Fr. Voigt
    Our Lady of Good Success, Spokane, WA, USA - Fr. Voigt


    I don't know who's deciding who makes the cut, but here's some more:
    Our Lady of Mt Carmel Mission, Chicago, IL, USA - Fr. Arizaga
    Star of the Sea Mission, Charlottetown, PEI, Canada - Fr. Roy
    (other Fr. Roy chapels at link below)

    For chapels in Europe and more!, there's info here: http://ordo-resistance.blogspot.fr/p/europe.html
    Thank you, it's a good start. Hopefully in time people will add contact details as well. I will work my way through the French pages you linked to.

    Deciding who makes the cut will be outside of my jurisdiction, but I am open to listen to lobbiers.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #8 on: January 14, 2018, 07:51:37 PM »
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    • I think this is a great idea and I thank you, Samuel, for taking this initiative.
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    I have to wonder if any private chapels won't want to be on the list for fear of appearing opposed to the SSPX. (I suppose that's what you were implying by "fear of the Jєωs/Pfifferites/etc.")

    Quote from: Samuel on January 14, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
    Thank you, it's a good start. Hopefully in time people will add contact details as well. I will work my way through the French pages you linked to.

    Deciding who makes the cut will be outside of my jurisdiction, but I am open to listen to lobbiers.
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    We'll just have to see how the "lobbiers" sound, eh? 
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    I admire your courage and fortitude!
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2018, 07:59:40 PM »
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    • The chapel in Vitoria, Brazil should definitely be added to that list. They were the first to receive the new priest Fr. Ribeiro and are usually at the front of the list when it comes to Brazilian resistance chapels. Here is their website. The chapel Nossa Senhora das Alegrias.

    http://www.nossasenhoradasalegrias.com.br/
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #10 on: January 18, 2018, 09:13:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: chrstnoel1 on January 18, 2018, 05:25:37 AM
    Can you be more precise?  
    Is Fr. Voigt,  problematic?  ???

    Christnoel, this isn't directed at you, but for consideration of all of us.

    I was advised by my confessor recently, that we should be very careful in talking about our priests publicly & privately.

    It's very easy to scandalize other souls with our comments, as harmless as our intentions may be.

    Father Voigt is validly ordained, with possibly two conditional traditional rite ordinations (one by +W).

    His priestly approach may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he is one of the few trad priests, working hard for our tiny remnant.

    We have to protect and be thankful for what priests we have.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #11 on: January 18, 2018, 09:38:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on January 18, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
    Christnoel, this isn't directed at you, but for consideration of all of us.

    I was advised by my confessor recently, that we should be very careful in talking about our priests publicly & privately.

    It's very easy to scandalize other souls with our comments, as harmless as our intentions may be.

    Father Voigt is validly ordained, with possibly two conditional traditional rite ordinations (one by +W).

    His priestly approach may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he is one of the few trad priests, working hard for our tiny remnant.

    We have to protect and be thankful for what priests we have.
    Thanks Incred.
    My mistake! :pray:
    No malice intended.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #12 on: January 19, 2018, 06:21:38 PM »
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    • To supply the name of +Zendejas' chapel in Connecticut, it's called "Church of the Miraculous Medal".
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #13 on: January 19, 2018, 06:27:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: chrstnoel1 on January 18, 2018, 05:25:37 AM
    Can you be more precise?  
    Is Fr. Voigt,  problematic?  ???
    Fr. Voigt is a truly zelous soul who is very jovial, pleasant, and kind. However, he can certainly give you quite a penance if you deserve it. He'll tell you like it is, not in a bad way, but he truly cares about you as an individual.
    I would put the gloves on for him if neccessary!

    Also, he helps +Z out now and then, so he definitely should be listed in the "Resistance" directory.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #14 on: February 09, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on January 14, 2018, 02:30:59 PM
    Bp Zendejas - South Salem, NY
    Donations: SEA, Inc.
    P.O. Box 854
    Norwalk, CT 06856-0854


    I don't know the names of all of these chapels:

    St. Athanasius Church, Vienna, VA, USA - Fr. Ringrose
    Stella Maris Chapel, La Marque, TX, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    _____________, Danbury, CT, USA - Bp. Zendejas
    St. Joseph's, Aldergrove, BC, Canada - Fr. Girouard
    Our Lady of Fatima Chapel, Lacombe, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    Our Lady of Good Hope, Baton Rouge, LA, USA - Fr. Morel
    _____________, Reenascreena, Co. Cork, Ireland - Frs. McDonald & Ballini & ??
    Our Lady of Good Success Chapel, Syracuse, NY, USA - Fr. Voigt
    Our Lady of Good Success, Spokane, WA, USA - Fr. Voigt


    I don't know who's deciding who makes the cut, but here's some more:
    Our Lady of Mt Carmel Mission, Chicago, IL, USA - Fr. Arizaga
    Star of the Sea Mission, Charlottetown, PEI, Canada - Fr. Roy
    (other Fr. Roy chapels at link below)

    For chapels in Europe and more!, there's info here: http://ordo-resistance.blogspot.fr/p/europe.html

    I just received an email request from someone wanting to attend a TLM in the Baton Rouge area, especially on Ash Wednesday (14 February). Is anyone able and willing to give me a contact number or email address so I can help this person find a suitable Mass in that area?

    This also highlights the benefits of having an up to date directory, with a way for people to contact the coordinator and inquire about Mass times. Failing that, who knows how many people will have to miss out on Mass for lack of information. I don't see any excuse for keeping Mass times by invitation only.
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