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Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Resistance Directory
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2018, 09:52:33 PM »
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  • It seems the Lacombe, LA location might need to be removed from the directory.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #31 on: July 08, 2018, 10:33:05 PM »
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  • Apparently, there's one near Minneapolis?

    I say 'apparently' because I checked the address, called the number and called it... but the address is an apartment in a part of town I've known my whole life. I've driven by that same apartment complex hundreds of times. Nothing that would make it seem that there was a Resistance chapel.

    Only seen one thing about it on websites.

    The directory doesn't list it, but Traditio's directory does.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 10:44:11 PM »
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  • Apparently, there's one near Minneapolis?

    I say 'apparently' because I checked the address, called the number and called it... but the address is an apartment in a part of town I've known my whole life. I've driven by that same apartment complex hundreds of times. Nothing that would make it seem that there was a Resistance chapel.

    Only seen one thing about it on websites.

    The directory doesn't list it, but Traditio's directory does.
    I wasn't aware that Traditio had anything listed for the Resistance.
    Fr. Voigt has a Mass in MN.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #33 on: July 09, 2018, 02:34:10 AM »
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  • Apparently, there's one near Minneapolis?

    I say 'apparently' because I checked the address, called the number and called it... but the address is an apartment in a part of town I've known my whole life. I've driven by that same apartment complex hundreds of times. Nothing that would make it seem that there was a Resistance chapel.

    Only seen one thing about it on websites.

    The directory doesn't list it, but Traditio's directory does.
    Maybe they have mass in one of the apartments. I have heard of mass in peoples' homes before.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #34 on: July 10, 2018, 07:24:32 AM »
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  • I wasn't aware that Traditio had anything listed for the Resistance.

    You're on traditio!
    Traditio is amenable to list anyone's location.  You just need to send them the info.  Problem is they are also supportive of the duarte-costa lineage, which is not legitimate (ex: Anslem Marie in Arlington , TX, and Sebastian in Los alamitos, CA). 
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    Caution is still required when using their list.


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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #35 on: July 10, 2018, 11:29:20 AM »
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  • Is anyone aware of Fr McDonald being in Ontario? I’ve heard he was but I’m trying to get more info. Any contact info for the good Fr?
    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #36 on: July 10, 2018, 06:14:25 PM »
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  • Just a warning to any potential users of this Resistance Directory:

    USA, Texas, Dallas, St. Joseph's

    This chapel has secured the services of a Thuc-line priest. No SSPX training, no Resistance training or affiliation, no communication or affiliation with any of the Resistance bishops, and no connection with +Lefebvre or any of his line of bishops. How this independent chapel can consider itself Resistance is beyond me.

    His training and ordination are both under suspicion because he is Thuc line. And any sane Sedevacantist would agree with me: being Thuc-line is NOT a stamp of quality or guarantee of any kind.

    If a priest is Thuc-line, you really have to research!

    There are some Thuc-line bishops who will ordain and/or consecrate ANYONE. Even those without training, or sufficient training. Same for morality.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR.


    PS. No, I don't know who the priest is, but I am passing on information from someone who does. If you are considering attending this chapel, you need to ask the coordinator a simple honest question: who is the priest? And if he refuses to answer, then act accordingly.

    Just like many people said in various Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer/Ambrose Moran threads: when the whole world desperately needs good, Traditional, well-trained priests (or bishops), and you "miraculously" find one in days or weeks even though others have given up after years of searching, you really have to ask yourself: Is this too good to be true?

    My momma always said: When something is too good to be true, it usually is.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #37 on: July 10, 2018, 06:32:27 PM »
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  • Just a warning to any potential users of this Resistance Directory:

    USA, Texas, Dallas, St. Joseph's

    This chapel has secured the services of a Thuc-line priest. No SSPX training, no Resistance training or affiliation, no communication or affiliation with any of the Resistance bishops, and no connection with +Lefebvre or any of his line of bishops. How this independent chapel can consider itself Resistance is beyond me.

    His training and ordination are both under suspicion because he is Thuc line. And any sane Sedevacantist would agree with me: being Thuc-line is NOT a stamp of quality or guarantee of any kind.

    If a priest is Thuc-line, you really have to research!

    There are some Thuc-line bishops who will ordain and/or consecrate ANYONE. Even those without training, or sufficient training. Same for morality.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR.


    PS. No, I don't know who the priest is, but I am passing on information from someone who does. If you are considering attending this chapel, you need to ask the coordinator a simple honest question: who is the priest? And if he refuses to answer, then act accordingly.

    Just like many people said in various Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer/Ambrose Moran threads: when the whole world desperately needs good, Traditional, well-trained priests (or bishops), and you "miraculously" find one in days or weeks even though others have given up after years of searching, you really have to ask yourself: Is this too good to be true?

    My momma always said: When something is too good to be true, it usually is.
    Indeed, there are a lot of directories where it just lists "Fr.________" and absolutely nothing else. Even worse, a bishop with no information about him.

    There are better ways to serve Our Blessed Lord than getting ordained by a schismatic Brazilian church (with ties to Communism, at that). The Church does not need more dubious sacraments.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #38 on: July 10, 2018, 10:03:36 PM »
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  • Sounds like you've confirmed everything he said expect one word -- communication.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #39 on: July 10, 2018, 10:17:37 PM »
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  • Seems to me if you don't know what you are talking about, you shouldnt talk.
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    Your informer doesn't know what he is talking about, either.  Both of you should have done your homework before saying anything negative about a priest you don't even know the name of.  For shame.
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    Not all thuc-line are sedevecanti.  
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    The priest supports the resistance and it's bishops and has had communication with them.
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    Furthermore, that chapel also has other priests who say mass there.
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    Shame on you both.
    And the value of your word... is?

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #40 on: July 10, 2018, 10:31:50 PM »
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  • Seems to me if you don't know what you are talking about, you shouldnt talk.
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    Your informer doesn't know what he is talking about, either.  Both of you should have done your homework before saying anything negative about a priest you don't even know the name of.  For shame.
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    Not all thuc-line are sedevecanti.  
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    The priest supports the resistance and it's bishops and has had communication with them.
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    Furthermore, that chapel also has other priests who say mass there.
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    Shame on you both.

    1. I apparently do know what I'm talking about, as you confirmed virtually everything I said.

    2. I didn't say anything negative. I just pointed out the fact that Thuc-line priests are a HUGE wild card. You are going to have an uphill battle proving the training, validity of ordination, etc. of your Thuc-line priest to every potential parishioner in the future. That's the burden that comes with the "easy win" of snagging a Thuc-line priest for your chapel.

    3. Who said anything about Sedevacantism? Certainly not me.

    4. Who cares who he's rooting for. If none of the Resistance bishops are his boss, and they don't approve of him, then how can he claim any connection to the SSPX Resistance? It sounds like you're trying to ride on the coattails of the good reputation of the SSPX Resistance. I agree though: the Resistance has the same spotless reputation for training, validity, etc. that the old SSPX enjoyed. But your Thuc-line priest was not formed in the SSPX, didn't receive ordination from the SSPX, and has no MEANINGFUL back-and-forth with any Resistance bishop. He is not working WITH or UNDER any Resistance bishop. That is what I meant by communication. I wasn't talking about casual chit-chat or Christmas cards.

    5. If I sent a letter to Fr. Cekada telling him he's doing the devil's work by promoting his "Non Una cuм" position, I could claim "I have had communication with Fr. Cekada".

    6. I doubt you have any regular priests other than the Thuc-line priest in question. You have to be exaggerating; your chapel isn't that big. What, you have other Thuc-line priests/bishops saying Mass there as well?

    7. I'll spare you any further contamination by my shame-ridden self by banning you from the forum. I wouldn't want you to befoul yourself.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #41 on: July 12, 2018, 11:17:28 AM »
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  • And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.”  St. Mark 3:24-25

    We should all consider ourselves *CATHOLIC*, not Resistance, not SSPX, not FSSP, etc.   This sectarian nonsense will be the end of us.

    Sounds great and all, but ideas do matter. It's ecuмenical nonsense to say, "As long as you're a good person, all that silly stuff like beliefs doesn't matter..."

    No, beliefs DO matter. They determine our actions. And there are very real differences in the positions of, say, the FSSP and the Resistance.

    You can go ahead and call yourself "simply Catholic" -- and everyone will assume you're Novus Ordo. For my part, I am TRADITIONAL Catholic. That appellation is necessary, just as it's necessary to call ourselves CATHOLIC rather than CHRISTIAN ever since the Protestant Revolt. Words mean things. Words convey a certain reality.

    There is a REALITY behind each of the names used. If those terms weren't useful, no one would use them.

    So that is why there are different groups. Let me ask you this: Who should dissolve, and which group should be the one left standing? I bet no one would agree on which one should be the one left standing. Hence the multitude of groups, one for each major position.

    As for being divisive and causing sects and dissensions, you must not know me very well. The most common criticism of me is that I'm "Trad-cuмenical" or friendly to all the Trad groups. My belief is that God hasn't expressed a favorite, so it's all kind of up-in-the-air and mysterious when it comes to "What Trad group is objectively the best, or God's personal favorite?"

    Putting Lutheranism and Catholicism on the same footing (like Modernist Rome does) is sinful and unjust, because Lutheranism is of the devil. But you can't say the same thing for "other Trad positions" which are different from your own. Truth is/can be known in the case of the One True Faith, so the others are IN ERROR. However, truth CANNOT be known in the case of the various Trad groups. Each of the Trad groups is just a network of lifeboats. Choosing one over the other is only a matter of prudence, NOT dogma. God hasn't made His will known as to which of them is His favorite. So any of them could turn out to be the best, in the end. So we should respect them all, more or less, even if we have a personal favorite which we think is the most prudent/safest/best lifeboat to ride out the Crisis.

    That is why we can't BIND OTHERS or condemn those who disagree with us, on matters touching on the Crisis in the Church. There is too much confusion, doubt, and lack of certainty. All we have is MORAL certainty that this or that path is the most prudent.

    We can and should feel strongly about our position -- arguing why it's better, safer, etc. and point out apparent errors or problems with the opposing positions. But we must maintain charity, and not cross the line. We can't excommunicate our fellow Trad Catholics or claim they are heretics, just because they don't hold our position. The Crisis in the Church is unprecedented, and there is NO clear-cut guidance in the matter. If there were, there would only be two possible outcomes:
    1. Just one Trad position
    2. One GOOD Trad position, and all the others contain 100% men of bad will.

    The Dimond Brothers, etc. go with option 2), which I believe is wrong and forbidden to Catholics.

    But instead, all we have are the virtues of wisdom and prudence, and the wisdom/prudence of saintly prelates like Abp. Lefebvre to guide us. But even he is not infallible, so the confusion persists.


    But, nevertheless, it's a simple fact that you can't call a random Thuc-line priest "Resistance". It simply violates the truth, so I have a problem with it. For those seeking a Resistance priest because of the prudence and sanity of that position, they expect a Resistance priest when they go to a chapel considered "Resistance". An independent chapel with a thuc-line priest, with insufficient training, who does not work with any Resistance bishop, is simply not Resistance. It simply is what it is.


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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #42 on: July 12, 2018, 11:54:33 AM »
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  • And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.”  St. Mark 3:24-25

    We should all consider ourselves *CATHOLIC*, not Resistance, not SSPX, not FSSP, etc.   This sectarian nonsense will be the end of us.

    Nice Dallas, TX IP address there, ImmaculateHeart.

    Are you Fr. Francis Mbadugha?
    That's a direct, yes or no question by the way.

    I believe you are. You posted donation information earlier under this account. You might be pretending to be someone else (or leading us to believe it's someone else -- a la "mental reservation") but it's obvious you are Fr. Francis himself.

    Fr. Francis M. does not have sufficient training. If that is the priest in Dallas (at the Kaldawi chapel) then a lot of the mystery is cleared up.

    To Fr. Francis M:
    It doesn't matter if Bishop Adamson was willing to ordain you, or that you were passive/humble about it and went with Bp. Adamson's strong suggestion that you should be ordained. He was objectively wrong and very imprudent in ordaining you.

    Let me tell you a quick story, Father: I had another Thuc-line bishop, Bishop Slupski, want to ordain ME in 2007. But I was married with 2 children at the time, so I prudently refused. Doing God's will doesn't mean going with the flow of anything any bishop ever says or wants to do. Especially when those bishops are Thuc-line!

    The bishop who ordained you is quite scandalous, too, based on reports of those who visited his home. He wears lay clothes, has a ponytail, has nude art all over the place (millions of dollars worth!) a huge mansion, 3 hour meals, he wastes food and rings a bell for servants to take away one course and bring on the next course, etc. He is living in fastidious luxury. Not the kind of bishop any young man should seek ordination from.

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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #43 on: July 13, 2018, 05:37:55 PM »
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  • I pinned this thread a few days ago when someone was asking for Resistance Mass locations, but new information has been provided and the directory has not been updated. So, it seems this is an out-of-date resource. If anyone knows of a better one, let me know.
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    Re: Resistance Directory
    « Reply #44 on: July 13, 2018, 05:41:08 PM »
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  • Yes indeed.

    As I said above: to anyone using this directory, CAVEAT EMPTOR. You never know, you might head to one of its "resistance chapels" and end up with an under-educated, Thuc-line priest who doesn't work with any of the Resistance bishops.

    And that, my friends, would NOT be a good thing.

    Fr. Francis was primarily "educated" at Fr. Pfeiffer's lame excuse for a seminary. Need I say more? Validity is NOT the only factor in securing a priest to say Mass, boys and girls. A decent priestly education and formation is far from optional.

    The Council of Trent required that priests be formed at Seminaries from henceforward. The Crisis in the Church doesn't dispense from this requirement. Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX certainly didn't think so. So anyone in the Resistance (which is nothing more or less than the old-school SSPX) should agree.

    A Tridentine Mass needs a Tridentine priest -- and that means one formed at a seminary. Quo Primum says we need the Tridentine Mass, and the Council of Trent says our priests MUST be formed in seminaries. We can't pick and choose what Traditional Catholics must believe. We must accept ALL of the Catholic Faith; ALL of Tradition. The body of Tradition most certainly includes the Council of Trent!

    Has someone tried e-mailing Samuel about this trojan horse chapel? Samuel stormed off in a huff months ago because I wouldn't force CathInfo members to be dogmatic sedeplenists, so he probably doesn't read the forum anymore.
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