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Offline cebu

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Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 02:10:07 PM »
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    • Most of you (apart from the cult members on here) accept that Bishop Williamson is correct on so many things but you don't and won't on this one case. Why not? Perhaps he may well know more than you. All you know is what is reported by the vile media and the wrecusant who mix truth and lies to suit their own ends. You are true revolutionaries by setting yourself up as judge and jury in this particular case. 

    You will be judged as harshly as you judge others by the Good and Just Lord above when your time comes.
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 02:26:20 PM »
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    • When these accusations come up it is a difficult situation. If you believe them and they are not true then the clergy lose their good name unjustly. But if you do not believe them and they are true then children get abused and have their faith ruined and their lives destroyed. What is best to do? I don't know.
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 02:52:14 PM »
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    • IRELAND
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    Gerry O’Shea @IrishCentral April 04, 2017


    I recall clearly a shocking conversation that I had about 20 years ago, with a fine man from Tralee, Co. Kerry about the Christian Brothers Industrial School in that town. He recalled that some of the boys confined in the industrial school attended classes with him in The Green, the brothers' local high school. He remembered that when the final bell rang to end the school day they would bolt for their living quarters because if they tarried at all they claimed they would be beaten.
    My other memory of that conversation is much more disturbing. He told me that local people would sometimes hear screams at night from the school. As a teenager, he was surprised by this and asked his father, who worked as a laborer in the town, what was going on to cause such nocturnal cries.
    His father replied that such matters were beyond his ability to deal with and that his son was better not talking about them -- a very understandable response in those times.
    The scene of boys crying out for help to a deaf and seemingly uncaring community in my own county 50 or so years ago, is seared in my memory. The men in clerical robes were paid by the state and honored for their work by the local clergy and dignitaries.
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    http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AbuseTracker/print.html

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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #18 on: April 06, 2017, 03:01:51 PM »
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    • Matto, thank you for your reasoned reply. It is a difficult situation. Our Lord Himself says that a millstone should be tied around the neck of anyone who offends little children and rightly so.

    The hysterical reaction of MW does not help. How can they have watched the docuмentary unless they speak Swedish? No where does it say that the English priest was a convicted paedophile. What docuмents about him or testimonies about him is MW referring to? There aren't any. Where is MW getting this from and what on earth is the piece they posted about someone in Ireland got to do with this case, but hey why let the truth get in the way. MW you should apply for a job at 'The Guardian' or some other vile media outlet.
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 03:02:52 PM »
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    • If you watch the docuмentary, it shows Fr. Schmidberger to be PERSONALLY responsible for the decision of putting Fr. "P" in charge of children's camps AFTER they knew he had molested several children.
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 03:04:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: cebu on April 06, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
    How can they have watched the docuмentary unless they speak Swedish? No where does it say that the English priest was a convicted paedophile. What docuмents about him or testimonies about him is MW referring to? There aren't any.
    Thank you for demonstrating that you are a total IDIOT.



    The docuмentary HAS ENGLISH SUBTITLES. You just click on the little "translate" button in the upper right corner.


    The better question is: why are you REFUSING TO WATCH IT?



    https://www.svtplay.se/video/13177559/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-sasong-16-avsnitt-13-2?start=auto
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    « Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 03:15:47 PM »
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    • The docuмentary also shows the SSPX's Fr. Pfluger talking about and admitting his awareness of the victims of Fr. "P" in France.

    The docuмentary also shows the SSPX's Fr. Laurencon - on camera- pretending he doesn't understand English and walking away and refusing to answer questions in Montgardin.
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    « Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 03:41:19 PM »
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    • It is worth mentioning that when the Swedish investigators go to interview Bp. Fellay, they are directed to his Austrian PF firm, which in turn tells the team they can find Fr. "P" at the Resistance parish in France.



    How thoughtful of Max Krah.
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    « Reply #23 on: April 06, 2017, 03:47:12 PM »
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    • The show provides this photo of all the Resistance:

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    « Reply #24 on: April 06, 2017, 04:23:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: mw2016 on April 06, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
    The show provides this photo of all the Resistance:

    These photos are obviously not all of the Resistance. E.g. I see the sedisvacantist Fr. Trauner (actually his picture is there twice) and the sedisvacantist Fr. Abrahamovic. Both have no contact to the Resistance.
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    « Reply #25 on: April 06, 2017, 04:31:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Against the Heresies on April 06, 2017, 04:23:13 PM
    These photos are obviously not all of the Resistance. E.g. I see the sedisvacantist Fr. Trauner (actually his picture is there twice) and the sedisvacantist Fr. Abrahamovic. Both have no contact to the Resistance.
    It is obviously a picture of the show's research. I highly doubt some investigative reporter is necessarily going to precisely know all the "differences" between each of the priests of the Resistance, i.e. which are "independent," which are "sede," which are with Fr. Chazal, which are with Bp. Faure, which are with Bp. Williamson, which are with Fr. Pfeiffer, etc.



    Heck, this is a Resistance DISCUSSION board, and has been since 2012 and WE don't even have anything HERE that resembles a list compiling who the Resistance priests are around the world. I recognize a few of the faces, but certainly not all of them.


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    « Reply #26 on: April 06, 2017, 04:34:05 PM »
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    • Who wants to bet that Michael Matt at The Remnant will not report on this docuмentary?
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    « Reply #27 on: April 06, 2017, 04:36:07 PM »
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    • mw2016 you did good, difficult to see innocent people appear to be presumed guilty by association, simply by walking in procession, but this needed to be known, we trusted the sspx, and we are where we are now, God help us... :facepalm:
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #28 on: April 06, 2017, 04:49:03 PM »
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    • I find very suspicious the fact that after "Father P" joined the "Resistance", he was invited to participate in the ordinations in Econe. No priest who has left the SSPX is ever seen in their property or welcomed. You can see "Fr. P's" participation in the last few minutes of the docuмentary.

    https://www.svtplay.se/video/13177559/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-sasong-16-avsnitt-13-2?start=auto
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    Re: Report charges cover-up of sɛҳuąƖ abuse by traditionalist society
    « Reply #29 on: April 06, 2017, 05:48:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: mw2016 on April 06, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
    You have misunderstood.
    In the docuмentary, Bp. Faure is shown being asked about Fr. Abraham.
    The other pedophile priest they profile, Fr. "P," is working under the Domincans at Avrille at the Resistance parish in Bordeaux.
    And, no, I don't think that the parishioners were "unhappy" about their pedophile priest Fr. "P" shoving the reporter, since they actually helped Fr. "P" attack her by slashing the tires on her car.
    I was referring to your statement about +Faure's statement about the priest saving his soul, that is what he said about Fr. Abraham. Whatever. Does +Faure have any authority over the Dominicans? I doubt it. 
    You are assuming it was all of the faithful taking part in the act of vandalism with the tires and that they were all applauding the woman being shoved. I said I doubt that they all were on board with that and I do doubt it. There have to be some of them who have a decent formation. For all we know it may have been one hot-headed person who did the slashing of the tires. Sheesh! I don't think any of us would wish to be judged by the actions of all of those in our parishes or chapels.
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