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Offline Fatimagirl

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Rejected Schema from Vatican II on Our Lady
« on: June 24, 2016, 03:24:36 PM »
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  • When Bishop Williamson was in the US this past May, he mentioned in one of his conferences that Arch Lefebvre said there was merit in some of the original schema for Vatican II, which were subsequently rejected by the Council.

    I am trying to locate the rejected schema on Our Lady, which were prepared for Vatican II.

    Does anyone know how I might gain access to these?

    Thank you!

    Fatima girl


    Offline Stubborn

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    Rejected Schema from Vatican II on Our Lady
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 03:39:57 PM »
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  • This link has the original  Schemas in PDF format.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Rejected Schema from Vatican II on Our Lady
    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 09:19:20 PM »
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  • I've heard that ABL was involved in the preparation of the original schemas, which were abandoned by the liberal cabal that undermined the council at the very beginning, while John XXIII let it happen that way.  

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    Offline Fatimagirl

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    Rejected Schema from Vatican II on Our Lady
    « Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 09:18:04 PM »
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  • Thank you, Stubborn!!

    This is a great link --

    I wonder if you, or anyone, knows how to find the rejected schema specifically on Our Lady?

    Thank you!!

    Fatima Girl

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Rejected Schema from Vatican II on Our Lady
    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 09:15:59 PM »
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  • I don't know if it was actually contained in the original schema, but there was talk of two new dogmatic definitions:  Our Lady as Mediatrix of grace, and Our Lady as Co-Redemptrix.  

    I have heard that only a very little remained in research work for one or the other or both of them.

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