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Offline St Ignatius

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Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 09:41:46 AM »
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    • Tradplorable,
    You prove my point... the real evidence means nothing to you. Your reasoning and passions have been formed by the dictates of the mob, and just no changing your mind. 

    So, at the very least, reconsider how your opinion was formed originally. You will have to answer before God in regards to your public condemnations of this priest (and Bp Williamson) Is it worth it to you? Most of the so called evidence against this priest consists of general speculative opinions...
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    Offline Tradplorable

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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 09:53:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on September 18, 2017, 09:41:46 AM
     Most of the so called evidence against this priest consists of general speculative opinions...
    Not in Fr. Abraham's case, not at all.
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 09:57:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on September 18, 2017, 09:26:43 AM
    while I am respectful of the office and valid faculties of the neo-Traditional clerics, 
     I am no longer committed to any of the sects,
    and most have their shortcomings in that same package, from Fellay to Pfeiffer, to Chazal to +Wiliamson and his new hierarchy.  I would suggest that your response is both emotional and subjective as well as an extension of your own sectarian view of things.

    Not all critiques of Fr. Pfeiffer are wrong or invalid, and not all of his objections to Bishop Williamson have been wrong or invalid either.  
    Agreed.
    All of them are personality cults now.
    They all have their own attributes and faults.
    Anyone who pretends otherwise is just ... pretending.
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    Offline St Ignatius

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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 09:59:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on September 18, 2017, 09:53:12 AM
    Not in Fr. Abraham's case, not at all.
    You'd better hope and pray to God you're right, I have reason to believe otherwise. That's all I have to say. 
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    Offline ignatius

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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 10:57:10 AM »
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    • I spoke to someone who goes to the OLMC and he said:

    "----- (person name) came to enter the seminary.  Fr. Pfeiffer spent a lot of money on his visa.  He stayed one night.  Had two meals at the seminary. And left without a trace.  How ungrateful for all the effort and arrangement given to him.

    For ----- to say "the original plan was to stay two weeks" is wrong and mischievous.  It seems in those emails ----- planned only to spy and report on the place.  ----- should pay the cost of the visa."
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 11:44:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: ignatius on September 18, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
    I spoke to someone who goes to the OLMC and he said:

    "----- (person name) came to enter the seminary.  Fr. Pfeiffer spent a lot of money on his visa.  He stayed one night.  Had two meals at the seminary. And left without a trace.  How ungrateful for all the effort and arrangement given to him.

    For ----- to say "the original plan was to stay two weeks" is wrong and mischievous.  It seems in those emails ----- planned only to spy and report on the place.  ----- should pay the cost of the visa."
    If there is truth in this, then it only goes to prove what I have said earlier, that these sectarian skirmishes are rabbit holes with nothing at the bottom but darkness and sin.  Serious distractions from the imperative work of salvation.
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 12:08:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on September 18, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
     these sectarian skirmishes are rabbit holes with nothing at the bottom but darkness and sin.  Serious distractions from the imperative work of salvation.
    Exactly my point about Fr. Chazal soliciting gossip on Boston, KY.
    What makes him more interested in his sectarian skirmish with Fr. Pfeiffer than with the imperative work of salvation, I wonder?
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 01:47:42 PM »
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 01:50:00 PM »
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    • ^^^^ HA!
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 01:51:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on September 17, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
     "On 15 Sep 2017 18:20,
      "X" <confidential@not-anonymous.com>
      wrote:
      Only 6 and he keeps on telling that MORE ARE COMING.



       ------------------------------ --------------

      On Fri, 9/15/17, Chazal Francois <email-address@of-fr-chazal.com>
      wrote:
       Subject: Re: The Wrath of Pablo the Mexican
       To: "X" <confidential@not-anonymous.com>
       Date: Friday, September 15, 2017, 12:14 AM


       JM is wondering how many seminarians there are in
       Pfeifferville.fr joe told me 14 in
       total.fc+"

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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #25 on: September 19, 2017, 12:25:53 AM »
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    • Aaah! But there are people who still like Pfeiffer dollars when really they should not.
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 02:58:34 AM »
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    Pablo is the cameraman taking the videos. You know this because he's never in the videos unless the camera is obviously mounted on a tripod on auto. When in the middle of filming you see the scene drift over to the side wall taking a picture of the windows or a closed doorway for a few seconds and then slowly swing back to the center of action, it was in order to not allow a moving person to be seen walking across the line of camera view, like someone was moving a microphone or some piece of furniture. The camera was not turned off in order to keep the audio running and listeners could hear what Fr. Pfeiffer or Fr. Hewko was saying while the camera panned away then returned. Other times, there is a skip in the video where you can tell that footage was cut out, and no fade out/fade in was used. That's where Pablo decided that something had to be cut for whatever reason. He edits before posting videos. 
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    Pablo is the one who posts the videos on his own YouTube channel, 469fitter. He has been a pipe fitter for many years, which pays well. He has property, some say in another state, and is very involved in the finances of the Boston KY outfit. 
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    But with a self-proclaimed lay exorcist who dabbled with the demonic, is it any surprise? Why doesn't he get lost back to Mexico if he is such a great Mexican. He threatened to leave, but he may lose his hold over Fr Pfeiffer if he does that. 
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    Perhaps it's more than "a hold" over Fr. that he has.
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 09:25:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 19, 2017, 02:58:34 AM
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    Pablo is the cameraman taking the videos. You know this because he's never in the videos unless the camera is obviously mounted on a tripod on auto. When in the middle of filming you see the scene drift over to the side wall taking a picture of the windows or a closed doorway for a few seconds and then slowly swing back to the center of action, it was in order to not allow a moving person to be seen walking across the line of camera view, like someone was moving a microphone or some piece of furniture. The camera was not turned off in order to keep the audio running and listeners could hear what Fr. Pfeiffer or Fr. Hewko was saying while the camera panned away then returned. Other times, there is a skip in the video where you can tell that footage was cut out, and no fade out/fade in was used. That's where Pablo decided that something had to be cut for whatever reason. He edits before posting videos.
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    Pablo is the one who posts the videos on his own YouTube channel, 469fitter. He has been a pipe fitter for many years, which pays well. He has property, some say in another state, and is very involved in the finances of the Boston KY outfit.
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    Perhaps it's more than "a hold" over Fr. that he has.
    Presumption is a sin, as are detraction and gossip.
    I encourage you to cease.
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #28 on: September 19, 2017, 11:19:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on September 19, 2017, 09:25:42 AM
    Presumption is a sin, as are detraction and gossip.
    I encourage you to cease.
    God gave us all free will and a brain.  I think the bigger insult to God is not to use them and follow blindly.  This is a resistance forum made up of people who have not followed blindly.  There is so much wrong in the world, its your duty to question.  Other than that why are you on this forum, to learn about how flat the earth is and learn about baptism of desire?

    Presumption, come on.  Jesus said by their fruits you shall know them.  The quote goes on about ripping the plant out, root and stem.  He never said wait till next season, don't presume, it may be a bad year.  I have not seen one good result that has come out of Boston, KY.  At the very least, read the newspaper interview with Pablo about when he was a "lay exorcist." Every single report about how he mismanages money and control, is a sign of the fruit of Boston.  
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    Re: Recent first-hand report from Boston, KY
    « Reply #29 on: September 19, 2017, 11:47:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: RoughAshlar on September 19, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
    The quote goes on about ripping the plant out, root and stem.  He never said wait till next season, don't presume, it may be a bad year.
    Very well, I can't remain silent at this point.

    Would that quoted apply to, say, one who gives the impression of being Catholic whilst actually being a member of an entity that is a longstanding adversary of the Church and multiply condemned as such?
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    "Lord, have mercy".
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