No, Mr. X, I am not offended by any honest but mistaken claims. But given the haughty tone you adopt, you may want to reread Proverbs 16:18 in your Bible, and meditate on why Sacred Scripture says, "Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall." and why the Mother of God says, "He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble." (Luk 1:52)
Here's a simple one line challenge to any Resistance person:
Prove that the SSPX denies even one doctrine or dogma of Faith. If you could do this, you would not need 101 non sequiturs. It is incredible that some of you, absurdly, have gone so far as to attack the SSPX as heretics, and in light of "silence is consent", presumably those who were "silent" after Pax Vobis posted that "consent".
This challenge is especially to you, Pax Vobis, since you have no scruple in making an accusation that is calumny and slander: that SSPX Traditional Catholic Priests are allegedly heretics.
Name the Dogma of Faith that they allegedly deny. Pax claimed, "Much like the early Anglicans under King Henry VIII who had the same liturgy as true catholics but yet were heretics by rejecting the pope, the FSSP and the SSPX appear traditional in their liturgy, but are heretics for accepting the heresies of V2 and the new mass."
First: If someone becomes a heretic for rejecting the Pope (why didn't you say, Anglicans were heretics for denying the dogmas of (1) Transubstantiation, (2) the Real Presence, (3) the Sacrificial Nature of the Mass, (4) Purgatory etc - maybe you meant (5) dogma of the Papacy?), then sedes are in greatest danger of becoming heretics. Yet you have fallen for that danger yourself, rejecting 6 Popes for 60+ years as having no authority.
Second, name the Dogma of Faith that is allegedly being denied by the Society. When someone denies a Dogma, it will be very clear. Arians denied the Dogma of the Divinity of Christ. Orthodox deny the Dogma of the Filioque. Name the Dogma.
To say a Society that swears by and would die for the Oath against Modernism has gone Modernist is a false accusation. It is like saying those who are would be ready to die to keep the Dogma defined at Nicaea even unto death have allegedly gone Arian.
I debated whether or not to respond to X's Haughty Post; I do so only for the sake of completion. Lest "silence be consent".
1) Apologia was written in the 1970s, and has no bearing on ABLF’s condemnation of the indult groups which arise 15 years later;
15 years later? Do you want to advertise the fact that you have neither read the book nor done due diligence on your claims? Even a cursory flip through the book in the SSPX Asia link I gave you would reveal for e.g. a Chapter, like Chapter 11, The Ordinations of 29 June 1976. In fact, the foreword to Volume 1 was written and the book was published by Angelus Press in the year 1979. Volume 2 was published by Angelus Press in 1983. 15 years later? You may want to check your math, Mr. X.
4) As regards par. 8, again, why are you quoting this to me? You should be quoting this to Menzingen, since it is they who seem to fear for their canonical status and being perceived as schismatic.
Go back and reread your post which is reply #39 on this thread. Among many other absurdities, you claimed the SSPX now has "A belief Lefebvre died an excommunicate". That's why I showed you an article from the SSPX's own website that proved otherwise.
Your statement that I should "be quoting this to Menzingen" is just transparent debate rhetoric. SSPX Authorities obviously approved the article, seeing that it was on the SSPX site. The authorities quoted there explained the theology that I alluded to.
I have no interest in debating for the sake of debating. I don't intend to and won't dedicate the rest of my life to a fraternity I believe is not doing God's Will, let alone allegedly actively opposing it for some human motive. The SSPX is not like what is alleged here at all. I see signal graces and obvious divine fruits in the Society every other week. I could tell some from my own experience. But what Bp. Fellay has publicly said - of the Catholic praying to Our Lady of Gaudalupe led to the SSPX - should be enough. You are obviously committed to your Resistance cause. I bear you no grudge and I wish you well. This will be my last post on CI for a while.
Fare well, X. I will pray for you, and all here on CI. Time will tell who is right. I'll leave this post for posterity. In 10 years, here's what I expect: (1) the SSPX will have over 1000 Priests, (2) every elected Superior General of the Society will take the Oath against Modernism (3) and despite some of you minimizing the importance of the TLM in keeping the Faith,
lex orandi,lex credendi, the SSPX will continue offering the TLM exclusively.
Thus, all dangers will be removed; the danger of falling into (i) doctrinal or (ii) liturgical modernism; and (iii) that of not taking the duty of Catholic Restoration seriously. Writing continuous polemics against the Society's Work, I should remind some of you, really does nothing to further the goal of Catholic Restoration, either in Rome or the wider Church. This kind of "Tradition" risks becoming an exercise in self-justification rather than an apostolate undertaken for love of God and for souls.
Instead, the SSPX will continue to serve God faithfully, and by the Grace of God, we hope, will help millions more souls go to Heaven. If I am mistaken on (1) or (2) or (3), I will make it a point to return here and retract. Can any Resistance person make a similar prediction? Some have claimed Priests of the SSPX will begin to offer the New Mass soon. Those who rebelled against +ABL to start the SSPV claimed this in 1983 (+ABL mentioned it in a sermon that year), it was wrong then and 36 years have proved it to be still wrong to claim that. Some Resistants claimed it after 2012, it still has not come to pass.
Will it ever? No, by the Grace of God, we pray it will not. The SSPX is true to the Faith, to the Mass, and to the Church. We know Saintly Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society were chosen by God from the beginning and hope, by His Grace, to persevere till the end.