I found this quote on Archbishop Lefebvre Forums and thought it was interesting enough to post again here. It was translated from German, so if there are any errors, I apologize.

It is quite interesting to note, that certain [persons], who were till recently with us, like a bishop Williamson and some who have left recently, state, now we [= the SSPX] are away from the right way. Now these start to say, the Catholic must be an anarchist. They have lost this sense, this sense of authority. [Anarchy] comes from the Greek "arche" which means "principle" or "master" or "provider"; „an“ means "against" => thus [anarchy means] one must be against the authority.
They say [=the Resistance], today every authority becomes worse, it will fall in the hands of the devil, thus we must fight against all authority. This is not the teaching of the church. They want to found no society, because they say: Obedience is dangerous, because the authority is bad and it will demand obedience. Thus we reject every society. We found none more. There one sees, which mad conclusions are drawn. This is not the right thing.

I apologize for misspelling Fellay's name in the title. It is too late for me to fix it, though Matthew might notice it and fix it for me.

Some people on some forums think these pronouncement gems are important. It is actually just empty partisan blather.  Shooting at each other across the back fence.

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IF Bishop Fellay said this, he misquotes all of the Resistance priests with whom I am acquainted.  "Must be anarchists"???   "ALL authority is wrong"???  "Must NOT FOUND ANYTHING"???    Fr. Pfeiffer HAS FOUNDED OL Mt. Carmel Seminary.  Bishop Williamson has not founded an organisation, but he hasn't forbidden anyone else to do so!
I'd be interested to know who made these statements, when, where, to whom?  It sounds to me as if Bishop Fellay is also misquoted.

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"I think that the closer we come to the end times, the more Catholics will have to be anarchists, not in principle but in practice. By which I mean, they will have to be against all the powers that be, because these will all have been neutralized, undermined or subverted, operating contrary to the natural order. Hence, in practice, Catholics will have to stand up to them all, in Church or State... because they will all be twisted out of shape, under Masonic influence... serving in any case the Prince of this world. So I think it will be very difficult to create any more worldwide structures. The French Dominican priest, Fr Roger Calmel, had a clear view of things. As far back as 1970 he said that the natural leaders in any given place will have to make their ministry shine out in that one place, being tied by bonds of no more than friendship to the leaders in any other place."

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I found this quote on Archbishop Lefebvre Forums and thought it was interesting enough to post again here. It was translated from German, so if there are any errors, I apologize.

Quote from: Bishop Fellay

It is quite interesting to note, that certain [persons], who were till recently with us, like a bishop Williamson and some who have left recently, state, now we [= the SSPX] are away from the right way.  Now these start to say, the Catholic must be an anarchist.  They have lost this sense, this sense of authority.  [Anarchy] comes from the Greek "arche" which means "principle"* or "master" or "provider";  „an“ means "against"  =>  thus [anarchy means] one must be against the authority.

They say [= the Resistance], today every authority becomes worse, it will fall in the hands of the devil, thus we must fight against all authority.  This is not the teaching of the church.  They want to found no society, because they say:  Obedience is dangerous, because the authority is bad and it will demand obedience.  Thus we reject every society.  We found none more.  There one sees, which mad conclusions are drawn.  This is not the right thing.

I apologize for misspelling Fellay's name in the title. It is too late for me to fix it, though Matthew might notice it and fix it for me.

 

*principle -- might be a misspelling of principal, because "master" and "provider" are more like the principal person than they are like the principle entity.**


This sounds to me like the words of +Fellay.  It's his style through and through.  

He's setting up a strawman and then attacking it.  He's not quoting anyone, but using his own imagination to dream up what he would have LIKED to hear Resistance members say, especially priests.  ESPECIALLY 'the' Bishop.  

It's a cheap trick..  He even goes immediately into etymology, where "anarchy" is derived.  The devil himself couldn't do a better job.  Maybe it was the devil!  

This is how he can build his repertoire for future talks -- using trial balloons to see how well the crowd will "take it."  

Well, the cat's out of the bag.  Now that it's on CI, the whole Resistance movement knows about it.  It has a DATE.  So we know when it was first dreamed up -- at the latest, that is.  Maybe it's a week or two old already.  

Thanks, Matto!



**From etymology:
archon (n.) Look up archon at Dictionary.com
    one of the nine chief magistrates of ancient Athens, 1650s, from Greek arkhon "ruler," noun use of present participle of arkhein "to rule," from PIE *arkhein- "to begin, rule, command," a "Gk. verb of unknown origin, but showing archaic Indo-European features ... with derivatives arkhe, 'rule, beginning,' and arkhos, 'ruler' " [Watkins].


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*principle -- might be a misspelling of principal, because "master" and "provider" are more like the principal person than they are like the principle entity.

The German word Mgr. Fellay used was "Grundsatz". Possible translations via "dict.cc": click

Bp. F would just love the dumbing-down sytem that is modern schooling and the miasmatic bureaucracy of the institution that calls itself authority. In contrast, Fr. Pfeiffer hates the idea of schools and loves the natural spirit of the individual. I think there is strength in this and when combined across a population could be unstoppable if there are clear goals. I would have paid good money to be at Winona when Bp. Williamson was there assessing the poor quality of candidates in front of him. No doubt he was seeking those characteristics which are now  anathema to his successors. Only cute and docile mothers' boys fixated on liturgical prettiness need apply! Did not Fr. Pfeiffer say he may need to drag kids off the street for his style of apprenticeship? I love it!        

Now, he looks like a nice boy .... or do I see a future as a dope dealer ahead of him? His mother may be in for a great disappointment!  Hmmm ..... all that education gone to waste!!