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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 04:24:44 PM »
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  • So:

    What part of "we are back to square one" don't you understand?


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    « Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 04:53:55 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay has been willing to expell many SSPX Priests when ALL other traditional Catholic groups who have joined Rome have been fooled including:

    Good Shepherd Institute
    Fraternity of Saint Peter
    Institute of Christ the King
    Society of St. John Marie Vianney
    Institute of St. Phillip Neri
    Benedictine Monastery of Le Barroux
    Transalpine  Redemptorists
    Mater Ecclesiae
    Oasis de Jesus Sacerdote Sisters

    So that Bishop Fellay thought he could make a deal with Rome and risk losing so many Priests seems to indicate bad judgement on his part. Why even attempt to make a deal with anti-christs? Deal or no deal - the SPX has been hurt and divided by this deal-making. The enemy knows how to divide and conquer. Let us see if Bishop Williamson is next to be expelled and what the SSPX faithful will think when these lose one of the four Bishops.

    I am reminded of ABL's words about "False obedience being the masterstroke of satan."

    I am reminded also of Fr. Pfeiffer saying the only sound in the conversation between satan and Our Lady is the sound of her heel crushing his head.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 05:06:08 PM »
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  • Not that it's breaking news, but now it's obvious who Fr. Couture serves PRIMARILY -- and it isn't God.

    HOW DARE this man slander the good names of Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer -- twisting their actions, trying to deceive the Faithful with all sorts of syllogisms...

    This letter was disgusting to read.

    Loyalty is a natural virtue, and traitors are naturally distasteful, just like thieves , liars, and murderers. Some things are simply part of the Natural Law etched onto each man's heart.
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    « Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 05:25:48 PM »
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  • If they only knew that about 5 years ago +Fellay acquired a personal dossier of all the priests in the society.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 09, 2012, 05:43:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elmer Fudd
    If they only knew that about 5 years ago +Fellay acquired a personal dossier of all the priests in the society.


    I believe it.

    Especially considering the Jєωιѕн connections they have (via Krah).

    That's the way Israel does business. It's how they control -- they get the dirt on you, then they threaten to ruin you with it, with blackmail.

    Speaking of --

    I got a phone call from an ex-seminarian a few months ago, an accordista, during which we had a nice heated conversation about the SSPX-Rome discussions.

    During this conversation, he threatened to make a compelling video about me, set to upbeat, modern music. He threatened to make me famous.

    It's funny that it's always the accordistas doing the threatening, while the faithful "holdouts" to +Lefebvre's SSPX are always the good guys, just trying to do the right thing, on the defensive.

    He said that my public speaking about the Superior General and his actions might be justified, but it's also justified to "out" a father of a family into the spotlight, because he's also a "public figure" being the owner of a Catholic forum.

    Nevermind the fact that I don't matter; that I'm not leading a group of X million traditional Catholics, the de-facto SPINE of the Traditional movement (whatever you think of the SSPX).

    Once again, they try to betray and then they blame YOU for being faithful. It's Vatican II all over again.
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    Public Announcement about Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer
    « Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 06:12:12 PM »
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  • Next they will try and make you look mentally ill.

    Then they damage your reputation, so you are isolated.

    The worst is when they go after your kids after messing everything up and you're too confused to know who to trust, and lack the tech savvy they have.

    Then freelance psychos attracted to the idea of being great warriors end up on your doorstep.  (or on the forums)
     :pray: :pray: :pray:

    This is why people do not rock the boat.  


       

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    « Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 07:26:46 PM »
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  • And comparing Fr.Chazal and Fr.Pfeiffer to "The Little Pebble"?

    That's just below the belt!  :really-mad2:
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    Public Announcement about Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer
    « Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 08:00:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Next they will try and make you look mentally ill.

    Then they damage your reputation, so you are isolated.

    The worst is when they go after your kids after messing everything up and you're too confused to know who to trust, and lack the tech savvy they have.

    Then freelance psychos attracted to the idea of being great warriors end up on your doorstep.  (or on the forums)
     :pray: :pray: :pray:

    This is why people do not rock the boat.


    Who are "they?"
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    Public Announcement about Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer
    « Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 08:20:50 PM »
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  • Dear Mr. Fudd,

    It's well known that Herr Krah is clubby with organized Jєωry.

    Do you have any evidence that Bp. Fellay is?


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    « Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 08:24:52 PM »
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  • Dear Mr. Fudd,

    "If they only knew that about 5 years ago +Fellay acquired a personal dossier of all the priests in the society."

    Can you tell us more about this, starting with how you know it?


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    « Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 08:31:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: John McFarland
    Dear Mr. Fudd,

    It's well known that Herr Krah is clubby with organized Jєωry.

    Do you have any evidence that Bp. Fellay is?



    Krah works closely with the SG and his assistants. There is evidence that Krah has written docuмents for various SSPX superiors.

    Has the Superior General ever fired or even distanced himself and the SSPX from Krah?

    On the contrary, Krah has open access to the SSPX equivalent of the Oval Office.

    If President Obama had known Jihadist clerics coming to the Oval Office at all hours, couldn't we justly link Obama with Islamic terrorism?
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    « Reply #12 on: September 09, 2012, 08:32:55 PM »
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    Fr. Couture writes...

    "So, as Bishop Fellay stated in his June 29th sermon, “we are back to square one”, which means at the position we have had ever since 1974, with the Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre."


    Then maybe Bishop Fellay can reach out and offer an olive branch to the Priests that he has expelled. If Bishop Fellay has been misunderstood by these Priests then maybe Bishop Fellay can forgive them and allow them to return to the SSPX and heal the wounds and damage caused by the deal making talking with Rome.

    But it appears Bishop Fellay and others might be more inclined to continue to punish those who simply wanted to hold true to the legacy of ABL which is NOT a "dead end road".

    Bishop Fellay could offer to sit and talk and reconcile with Bishop Williamson and this would strengthen the SSPX and bring unity versus fighting among each other.

    The question is does the Superior General of the SSPX wish to be humble and admit it was not a wise to enter into deals with Rome ..and.. understand why Priests and others felt such a great threat to the legacy of ABL that they felt they must act to prevent a "sell-out" that appeared to be happening with all of the secrecy.  

    If we are truly "back to square one” then Bishop Fellay has an opportunity to help restore unity to the SSPX --- will he do it?




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    Public Announcement about Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer
    « Reply #13 on: September 09, 2012, 08:34:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai

    And comparing Fr.Chazal and Fr.Pfeiffer to "The Little Pebble"?



    I had blacked that out.  :shocked:

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    « Reply #14 on: September 09, 2012, 08:39:46 PM »
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  • Anyone else curious -- what is The Little Pebble?

    Here's the lowdown:

    William Kamm, also known as The Little Pebble(born Cologne, Germany, 1950; currently living in Australia), is the leader of a religious group called the Order of St Charbel,[1] which claims however to be part of the Roman Catholic Church and due to be approved by the hierarchy. The Holy See does not regard the group as being part of Roman Catholicism.[citation needed]
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    [edit]Illegal episcopal ordination
    Kamm's order is sacramentally cared for by a former diocesan parish priest from Texas, Malcolm Broussard, who in 2003 was consecrated a bishop in Bavaria. This episcopal ordination was not authorised by the Roman Catholic Church and resulted in his automatic excommunication.[2] Broussard had already been suspended, on 20 September 1989, for abandoning his priestly assignment and was not a priest "in good standing".[3] Broussard has ordained many of the men in the group to the priesthood, most of them not taking the traditional promise of clerical celibacy. He ordained Kamm as a deacon in 2003.[citation needed]
    [edit]Rejection of priestly celibacy

    Kamm claims the Latin Rite rules of obligatory celibacy do not apply to him, not even if finally declared "pope" sometime in the future; nor does it apply to the priests of his order. His critics[who?] say that this rejection of normative church discipline proves the illegitimate and fraudulent nature of his revelations and religious order.
    [edit]sɛҳuąƖ assault: polygamy and mystical marriages

    In October 14th 2005, Kamm was sentenced[citation needed] to five years in prison with a non-parole period of three-and-a-half years for a string of sɛҳuąƖ attacks including aggravated sɛҳuąƖ assault on a 15-year-old girl. He claimed that she was one of his 84 mystical wives.[citation needed]
    The assaults occurred when the girl was living within Kamm's Order of St Charbel, a community (living in a compound) near Nowra, New South Wales. Kamm claimed to have received advice from the Blessed Virgin Mary that the girl should be chosen as one of 12 queens and 72 princesses who would all become his wives, with whom he would spawn a new human race after the world was cleansed and burnt by a ball of fire.[4] Kamm himself continues to defend his polygamy, claiming to believe that Mary has instituted him to be the "new Abraham" spawning a numerous people.[citation needed]
    Kamm's letters and diary entries to the 15-year-old girl, which were made public during the court session, display an explicit sɛҳuąƖ style and were major evidence in his prosecution.[5]
    Kamm was also found guilty in May 2007 of aggravated sɛҳuąƖ assault and aggravated indecent assault in relation to another 15 year old girl. In August 2007, after losing an appeal on his original sentence, Kamm was resentenced to a total of 15 years imprisonment with a non-parole period of 11 years. He is due to become eligible for release on parole on 13 April 2013.[6]
    [edit]Nature of prophecies

    He has declared, that he will take the name "Pope Peter II" as a future pretender to the Holy See[citation needed]; as such he is a future antipope. He was also noted for a series of unusual "prophecies" which were never fulfilled (including the start of World War III). Kamm claimed that Pope John Paul II, who remains widely venerated throughout Kamm's movement, would consecrate Kamm a bishop and appoint him as his official and sole successor to the papacy. When this prophecy was unfulfilled on Pope John Paul's death in 2005, Kamm quickly issued a press statement, saying "heaven clearly changed its plans" and declaring, that they would accept Pope Benedict XVI as legitimate Roman Pontiff. They claim prophecies have changed and stated that Kamm is to be the successor to Benedict XVI, instead of to John Paul II as previously claimed. One of Kamm's claims is that Pope John Paul II will rise from the dead and reappear on the surface of the world again to fight evil along with Benedict XVI, and possibly to appoint Kamm.[7]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kamm
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