Psalmist’s Cry
December 20, 2014

In olden times God’s People cried for help.
How much the more today they need to yelp.

The season of Our Redeemer’s coming amongst us is surely a suitable moment to remind ourselves how much we need God. Of course it has always been so. Before Christ, God came into the ever more wicked pagan world specially to the Israelites with the Old Testament to prepare for the coming of his own Son. Here is Psalm 43, all of which applies both to the Israelites and to Catholics, God’s people in Old and New Testaments (Revised Standard Version, titles and brackets added):—

A. GOD USED TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLE.

1 We have heard with our ears, O God, our fathers have told us, what deeds thou didst perform in their days, in the days of old: 2 thou with thy own hand didst drive out the nations (pagans), but them ( our fathers ) thou didst plant; thou didst afflict the peoples ( pagans), but them (our fathers) thou didst set free; 3 for not by their own sword did they (our fathers) win the land, nor did their own arm give them victory; but thy right hand, and thy arm, and the light of thy countenance; for thou didst delight in them. 4 Thou art my King and my God, who ordainest victories for Jacob. 5 Through thee we push down our foes; through thy name we tread down our assailants. 6 For not in my bow do I trust, nor can my sword save me. 7 But thou hast saved us from our foes, and hast put to confusion those who hate us. 8 In God we have boasted continually, and we will give thanks to thy name for ever.

B NOW HE HAS REJECTED THEM.

9 Yet thou hast cast us (Israelites) off and abased us, and hast not gone out with our armies. 10 Thou hast made us turn back from the foe; and our enemies have gotten spoil. 11 Thou hast made us like sheep for slaughter, and hast scattered us among the nations. 12 Thou hast sold thy people for a trifle, demanding no high price for them. 13 Thou hast made us the taunt of our neighbors, the derision and scorn of those about us. 14 Thou hast made us a byword among the nations, a laughingstock among the peoples. 15 All day long my disgrace is before me, and shame has covered my face, 16 at the words of the taunters and revilers, at the sight of the enemy and the avenger.

C YET WE HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL.

17 All this has come upon us, though we have not forgotten thee, or been false to thy (Mosaic) covenant. 18 Our heart has not turned back, nor have our steps departed from thy way, 19 that thou shouldst have broken us in the place of jackals, and covered us with deep darkness. 20 If we had forgotten the name of our God, or spread forth our hands to a strange god, 21 would not God discover this? For he knows the secrets of the heart.

D O GOD, COME TO OUR HELP!

22 Nay, for thy sake we are slain all the day long, and accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 23 Rouse thyself! Why sleepest thou, O Lord? Awake! Do not cast us off for ever! 24 Why dost thou hide thy face? Why dost thou forget our affliction and oppression? 25 For our soul is bowed down to the dust; our body cleaves to the ground. 26 Rise up, come to our help! Deliver us for the sake of thy steadfast love! (end of Psalm 43)

In other words, there was a time when God raised up his Catholic Church to great heights. But today it is making itself the laughing-stock of the world, to the point that one can almost be ashamed to be a Catholic. However, there are still faithful Catholics. O God, come to their help, O God, come to our help!

Kyrie eleison.

It's a crying shame that Catholics in name only do all they can to mock Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church.

We all should be doing more to defend Christ and the true Church.

Quote from: Francisco

Well it is a crying shame when a Modernist sits on the Chair of St.Peter, and when a professional liar heads a traditionalist religious society.

You are making a judgement on his motives. No one can lie unknowingly. If a thing is said and there is no intention to deceive, it is not a lie, even if it is in error. To call someone a "professional liar" is to indicate that they intend to deceive and do it with great skill, routinely. Therefore, you are actually judging (the type that is forbidden, the type only God can do) His Excellency and doing it on a public forum, and on a Sunday.  

BpW does not head a traditional religious society. I was not referring to him.

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Well it is a crying shame when a Modernist sits on the Chair of St.Peter, and when a professional liar heads a traditionalist religious society.

You are making a judgement on his motives. No one can lie unknowingly. If a thing is said and there is no intention to deceive, it is not a lie, even if it is in error. To call someone a "professional liar" is to indicate that they intend to deceive and do it with great skill, routinely. Therefore, you are actually judging (the type that is forbidden, the type only God can do) His Excellency and doing it on a public forum, and on a Sunday.  

BpW does not head a traditional religious society. I was not referring to him.

Francisco, I assumed you were referring to His Excellency Bishop Fellay. But either way...

Bp. Fellay intended to deceive and did so with great skill and then kept doing it.  For example, on February 2nd, 2006 Bp. Fellay said

After these long discussions, the cardinal [Castrillón de Hoys] told me: "I see that all you are saying does not place you outside of the Church, so you are in the Church". And he went on: "I ask you to write to the pope and ask him to lift the excommunications".  Since then that is where we stand, because obviously we are not going to ask them to remove something we do not acknowledge. We have always refused to acknowledge the validity of these excommunications, so we cannot ask them to remove something which does not exist. And even before doing this, we had asked, of course, the withdrawal of the decree of excommunication, its annulment; but even to say "annulment" already means that we would acknowledge something. We had asked this from the very beginning; it was one of the conditions we had set. And, for the first time, Rome seems to be heading in the direction we had proposed in the year 2000.

By the time the Superior General was saying so, he had already written to BXVI asking for the the lifting of excommunications.

At that time, he could not accept it, since the process in which he was reelected Superior General, was too close.  However, in 2009 he openly did.

Why use a revised standard version?  Other than that, it is a good EC.

I do not agree.  Catholics should never be ashamed of being Catholics.  In fact, a good Catholic cannot be ashamed of being Catholic.  A good Catholic cannot be even close to be ashamed of being Catholic.

The bishop is confusing the new religion with Catholicism.  Those novus ordo "Catholics" should be ashamed of their religion, of their popes and leaders, of their saints.

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Quote from: Francisco

Well it is a crying shame when a Modernist sits on the Chair of St.Peter, and when a professional liar heads a traditionalist religious society.

You are making a judgement on his motives. No one can lie unknowingly. If a thing is said and there is no intention to deceive, it is not a lie, even if it is in error. To call someone a "professional liar" is to indicate that they intend to deceive and do it with great skill, routinely. Therefore, you are actually judging (the type that is forbidden, the type only God can do) His Excellency and doing it on a public forum, and on a Sunday.  

BpW does not head a traditional religious society. I was not referring to him.

Francisco, I assumed you were referring to His Excellency Bishop Fellay. But either way...

Bp. Fellay intended to deceive and did so with great skill and then kept doing it.  For example, on February 2nd, 2006 Bp. Fellay said

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After these long discussions, the cardinal [Castrillón de Hoys] told me: "I see that all you are saying does not place you outside of the Church, so you are in the Church". And he went on: "I ask you to write to the pope and ask him to lift the excommunications".  Since then that is where we stand, because obviously we are not going to ask them to remove something we do not acknowledge. We have always refused to acknowledge the validity of these excommunications, so we cannot ask them to remove something which does not exist. And even before doing this, we had asked, of course, the withdrawal of the decree of excommunication, its annulment; but even to say "annulment" already means that we would acknowledge something. We had asked this from the very beginning; it was one of the conditions we had set. And, for the first time, Rome seems to be heading in the direction we had proposed in the year 2000.

By the time the Superior General was saying so, he had already written to BXVI asking for the the lifting of excommunications.

At that time, he could not accept it, since the process in which he was reelected Superior General, was too close.  However, in 2009 he openly did.

Yes, a professional liar. Satan is the Father of Lies.

adlophus:

The bishop seems to be confusing the new modernist church and the new "Catholicism" with the true Church and the true Catholicism.

Ah, I see.  The bishop has somehow missed the "true Church" and  "true Catholicism"  witin which adolph is firmly planted.  Adolph, you're a joke!  Merry Christmas. :roll-laugh2:

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adolphus - The new religion is riding on the back of catholicism(500+ years young).  However, I don't think that that was the point of his EC.  The point I think is to show and draw strength from tradition(the psalms) for those that are pained by this.  This crisis is difficult for many many catholics.  I see this as him showing solidarity(to use a favored V2 papal expression) with those who are suffering.  

H.E. may be showing solidarity with those who are suffering, but that does not mean Catholics could be ashamed nor almost ashamed of being Catholics.  A Catholic must always be proud to be Catholic, even if being Catholic means being humiliated and offended.

The bishop seems to be confusing the new modernist church and the new "Catholicism" with the true Church and the true Catholicism.

It is, once again, the Parable of the half rotten fruit.
 The right side of the apple is spotless, perfect, and orthodox, but the left side is full of errors, heresies, and decomposing corruption. This, at the same time, is proposed to be the True Church of Christ.