That was a pretty good list of SSPX stumblings by John Grace...The Fellayite lemmings are baffling and frustrating...Everything in the world is just "opinion" EXCEPT what comes fm Menzingen...Then it becomes dogma...albeit a very fluid dogma...something like doctrinal playdoh ( sic? ) in the hands of Fellay, Pflueger and the Zionist Jєω lawyer/point man for the Guttman family $$ lurking in the background..
       This Max Krah character, the harasser of Bp Williamson, really bothers me..His Excellency really should take the time to find out what Krah's тαℓмυdic bros are doing in the Holy Land-and what they've done...Personally I recommend The Holy Land Unveiled by Jennifer Dixon...and The Wandering Who by Gilad Atzmon..those were the last two I read.. :argue:

Quote from: John Grace

Cassini more or less confirmed that many adhere to the Fr Boyle line of not involving themselves in matters that are not the business of the laity.

Quote from: Archbishop Lefebvre

The Catholic faithful have a strict right to know that the priests to whom they have recourse are not in communion with a counterfeit Church which is evolutionary, pentecostalist, syncretist."

Quote from: John Grace

Can he get a life for himself.He would get on well with "New Templar" Sort of the Irish version John De Lallo.

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=12634

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It seems to me many of those proselytizing for the resistance have fallen into "noble cause corruption." So long as it can be used to promote/defend "the cause," or somehow cast a shadow on the SSPX, there is nothing that cannot be used - the ends then justifies the means.

The Archbishop always said his position was not one of "attack," but one of "defend." From the very beginning, the position of the resistance has been one of attack. I have said it before, but it is worthwhile repeating, proving your opponent's position false does not prove your position true (this applies to all positions in this crisis).

The entire foundation of the resistance is one of opinion. It is the opinion that the Archbishop would not have followed the path that Bishop Fellay chose to take. The priests of the resistance have been disobedient to the SG in the name of this opinion; not the path the Archbishop would have taken.

I do realize there are many who hold the opinion that anything before 1988 is irrelevant (somehow, the Archbishop could not get it right until the consecrations). I hold that this view is an inconsistent defense of the position of the former priests of the SSPX (based on their declaration). If the SSPX-SO has clearly defined their position to espouse this view I would like to see it – in fact, if they have defined their position clearly in any manner, I would like to see it. Until they define their stance (do they hold to the actions along with his words before 1988 or only after 1988), all I see are continual contradictions – using the past to defend the present while not allowing the present to condemn the past. Defending the Archbishop’s clarity of thought even though they hint he was confused until the consecrations of 1988. The Archbishop’s strength of character to stand up against the pressures of Rome, yet not having the strength of character to stand up to the pressures of his own priests - you get the idea.

One of the problems in all of the discussions here on IA (and I presume on other sites as well) is the diversity of opinions on a starting point for following the Archbishop – until a clear understanding of each person’s opinion is established, we will continue going around in circles because similar arguments are being used with multiple understandings.

john

John DeLallo means well. He stumbles over his own intelligence (or lack thereof). He is a nice person overall. When it comes to the Faith and the SSPX he is like a leech. He latches on to one opinion and sticks to it no matter what.

He is the self proclaimed adversary of the Resistance. Problem for him is there is almost nobody that takes his nonsense serious enough to engage in any kind of dialog.

Quote from: John Grace

Quote from: parentsfortruth

One of the tools the devil will use (and this has been admitted by the Freemasons in some of their writings,) is the whole "obedience" thing.

Please read this with the crisis in the XSPX in mind, and you'll see where this is all beginning to go.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/A-Chiesa-Viva-worth-reading

27. Elect an antipope. You say that he join (together) the church(s) (of) Protestants and Jєωs. An anti-pope will be elected if it were given the right to vote to the bishops. Then, we will elect many antipope(s). Eventually it will be an established as a compromise.

28. Remove the confession before Communion, for the second and third year students. So, growing up, if not it will affect most. Then disappear Confession. Introduce with silent confession, Community absolution in the group. Explain that this happens because the shortage of clergy.


30. After the antipope has been established, dissolve the episcopal assemblies, diocesan and parochial. You forbid to all discussion of it (regarding these) dispositions. Accused disobedience of those who ask questions.

31. Antipope conferred the greatest power to choose their successors. Order to all, under pain of excommunication, and as soon as possible, referral to "secular arm" to take the "mark of the Beast. " But, of course, do not call it that. The sign of Cross should not be done either on persons, or through them. It should not be blessed anymore. Making the sign of the cross must be considered (a) heinous act of idolatry and disobedience.

32. Declared that all dogma, but papal infallibility, opinions are free. Proclaim that Jesus Christ was essentially a failed revolutionary. Announced that the Christ will soon come true, and that so far only the anti-pope must be obeyed.

33. Ordered all the subjects of the pope to fight in holy war against all forms of fundamentalism (read: especially TRADITIONALISM!) and to extend the only world religion. Pitilessly gain the world. All this will bring to humanity as it has always been coveted "golden age of peace. "

RIP Father Villa.

Even at the conference in London, one woman reminded all that Fr Morgan is District Superior.

Laity are not members, so I for one, am at a loss to know what she means.

I took her to mean we must all be blindly obedient to Fr Morgan. I am not aware of Father being infallible.

She seemed to be taken aback that folk had organised in Father's patch.

Get used to it, Fr M! The resistance will organise and mobilise on it's own terms.

Get used to it, Fr. Morgan, Fr. Coture, Fr. Rostand, Fr. Wegner, and Fr.-
whoever-it-is-that-the-Menzingen-denizens-appoint, anywhere in the
world!  (Fr. Emily?? - probably not - they want younger DSs!)  


And please, let us men try to remember, that when someone like Fr.
Morgan attempts to strong-arm a woman who is asking a question
that he doesn't want asked, that we might have the gumption to
take a stand in her defense (that's 'defence' to GB fans) because
that is a CATHOLIC principle to defend a woman.  It will be very
effective if it is used, especially against a PRIEST!