Quote from: Walty

Neo-SSPX turn out to not be compromisers after all, eh?

Where's their apology for GREC, Krah, their hiring of the secular PR firm, and their retraction of their scandalous statements on Vatican II and the Jєωs?

Compromisers, indeed.

There is a phrase "when pigs fly".

The discussions with Rome did not convert Rome, and caused much unnecessary pain to the Catholic Faithful in the SSPX.  Renouncing the discussions is a good start and, if not an apology, at least an explanation is due from Bishop Fellay.  

It will be nice when we can put this all behind us.  However, I think in this time of what future theologians and historians will probably call "The Conciliar Heresy", Catholics will need to keep their eye on the ball at all times.

The discussions with Rome did not convert Rome...

How true that statement is.  So the rest of Bishop Fellay's antics are just "smoke and mirrors".

The dialogue is over because the deal was done last year.  

As much as we feel the injustice to Bp Williamson and the expulsed priests, I do believe they are very strong men of God who are using these injustices as opportunities to strive for sanctity and detachment from the world. They would not be the men they are if they allowed this injustice to break them. If they are never expunged or justified, God will make up the difference in grace and heavenly comfort.

As far as the "official" SSPX goes, I hope that such a strong statement means that the other 2 bishops are able to prop Bp Fellay up a bit so as to avoid total destruction just yet. Yeah, it's what people need to hear, I don't doubt there's an element of damage control with this convenient timing. My confidence is not restored because the essential element of regret seems to be woefully lacking, which makes one unsure if history will repeat itself down the road. But in order to save face, now they really do have to live up to it. Being in the hot seat to live up to it buys people a little more time and hopefully grace to be ready for the next iceberg whatever it may be.

Neo-SSPX turn out to not be compromisers after all, eh?

Walty, this is such a dumb comment, and you're not a dumb guy, so I can only imagine that it's made out of ignorance.

The only reason any of this is an issue is that

A) it contradicts the massive 'defense of the deal' campaign (viz. Fr Themann's conference at SSPX mecca St Mary's and the subsequent mass mailing campaign which included copies of said conference and a defense of the deal-- though more an attack on the Resistance).  Fellay and Co has put A LOT of effort into defending the deal-- Fr Themann's conference, the mailing campaign, local priests going on 'vacation' while a visiting priest came to chase the resistors out of the chapel...

B) Fellay has switched his stance dozens of times.  I think on average we're looking at a monthly switch.  And we're talking contradictory positions.  One day the NO is licit, the next day it isn't.  One day we're going to make a deal with Rome, one day we're not.  One day Rome doesn't have to convert, the next day they do.  

And of course, all of this is in the face of GREC, the expulsion of H.E. Williamson, the expulsion and effective expulsion of very holy priests who would not stay silent while Menzingen plotted, the docuмented liberalising of the society proper (from the seminary formation to the removal of 'sensitive' articles from their site, the approval of the NO, VII wasn't all that bad, etc.).

Hopefully we can get a reply out of you, and not have you pull a Someone1776 quasi-'gotcha' post.