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Offline Infirmus

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Priests of Pivarunas who have left Priesthood
« on: August 01, 2025, 08:35:36 AM »
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    • Is there a list/count of priests who have left the priesthood who were ordained by Pivarunas? 
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    Offline Gunter

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    Re: Priests of Pivarunas who have left Priesthood
    « Reply #1 on: August 01, 2025, 09:25:21 AM »
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    • Strange that you didn't refer to him as Bishop Pivarunas:incense:
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    Re: Priests of Pivarunas who have left Priesthood
    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2025, 11:41:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on August 01, 2025, 09:25:21 AM
    Strange that you didn't refer to him as Bishop Pivarunas:incense:
    What category of Tradition would CMRI fit in...?Tradsink¿

    https://unavocemiami.wordpress.com/resources/mark-pivarunas-and-his-old-catholic-sect/
    "...make up their own canonical rules and regulations. In August 1989, at the age of 30, Pivarunas convinced several of his CMRI buddies to name him “Superior General” of the CMRI sect.

    THE “EPISCOPAL” CONSECRATION

    Sometime, in 1991, CMRI members contacted another schismatic sedevacantist bishop from Mexico named Moisés Carmona, who offered, in exchange for a “generous donation,” to make Mr. Pivarunas a bishop without any formal priestly training, without any proper ecclesiastical formation, and without the normally-required papal mandate. On September 24, 1991, Carmona supposedly “consecrated” Mr. Pivarunas a “bishop” at Mount Saint Michael..."

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    F*ke bishops, F*ke priests. 





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    Offline BaldwinIV

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    Re: Priests of Pivarunas who have left Priesthood
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 06:07:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on August 01, 2025, 11:41:11 PM
    THE “EPISCOPAL” CONSECRATION

    Sometime, in 1991, CMRI members contacted another schismatic sedevacantist bishop from Mexico named Moisés Carmona, who offered, in exchange for a “generous donation,” to make Mr. Pivarunas a bishop without any formal priestly training, without any proper ecclesiastical formation, and without the normally-required papal mandate. On September 24, 1991, Carmona supposedly “consecrated” Mr. Pivarunas a “bishop” at Mount Saint Michael..."

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    F*ke bishops, F*ke priests.
    I mean, I'm not pro-CMRI, but the article does need to positively prove that the consecration didn't take place properly. Otherwise, I can't just claim "they're fake bishops" but provide no proof of why I think they're fake.

    The "priestly training" can be dispensed of by a bishop, especially since "Mr." Pivarunas had already been part of the CMRI since 1974, so with 17 years of "training", I don't think one needs to doubt the consecration on that ground.

    Thuc-line bishops are valid, as far as I know.

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    and without the normally-required papal mandate
    Oh right, the article is a complete joke.

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    Offline Giovanni Berto

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    Re: Priests of Pivarunas who have left Priesthood
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 10:57:44 PM »
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    • I don't know that much about Bp. Pivarunas and the CMRI, but I have always heard good things about them on this board. Why the sudden slandering? Is is the good old rivalry between "trad" groups?
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