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Priest vs Father of Family
« on: October 27, 2016, 12:00:44 PM »
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  • I was pondering the other day of the indifference that I see in SSPX priests regarding the faithful put in their hands by God and comparing them with the fathers of families. I was always taught (I'm in my 60's) and understood that priests are the fathers of their flock. What I perceive now, is that the SSPX priests  perceive themselves as temporarily assigned providers of the Latin Mass, this is likely why they are indifferent to their flock.

    A father of a family is a true shepherd, he will, he does, give his life for his family. He can never leave them. The same for mothers. The SSPX priest has been taught that he has no such responsibility.

    SSPX priest are a confused lot.  
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    « Reply #1 on: October 27, 2016, 12:45:32 PM »
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  • Then there's the element of being a "corporate man" which applies to many neo-SSPX priests. They are the face of the company, their first loyalty (and who they primarily answer to) is to the company leadership, etc.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 01:53:22 PM »
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  • They are perpetually being transferred, I believe this is done so they do not develop any attachments to the faithful. This adds to their indifference.

    They are a confused lot.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 01:59:05 PM »
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  • I wonder if the problem has to do with "Supplied Jurisdiction", so that they think they cannot take the role of a true parish priests.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 03:05:22 PM »
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  • From: The Life of Fr. De Smet, Apostle of the Rockies.

    This book I can't recommend highly enough to all men, young and old. The greatest adventure book, and all true. Father De Smet was a real man and to me the model of a true Father of his children. He called all the Indians to which he was assigned by God, his children.

    Some excerpts:

    Pg 176 -
    How is the phenomenal success of these missions to be explained? Many of the Indians possessed admirable natural virtues; they but needed to know Christianity to embrace it. Even the most degraded had preserved a high ideal of the greatness of the power of God. Blasphemy was unknown among them: not presuming to address the “Great Spirit,” they entreated their manitous to intercede for them. Superstition if you will, but beneath it was a religious sentiment which the missionary had only to enlighten and direct. None held back through false pride or prejudice. Even the Sioux, the proudest of the Western tribes, compared themselves to children bereft of a father’s guiding hand, and to the ignorant animals of the prairie, and with touching humility begged the missionary to “take pity on them.”

    Such elevated, upright souls could, moreover, appreciate the chastity of the Catholic priesthood. With rare discernment, the Indian understood that, belonging as he does to all men, a priest cannot give himself to one person, and not for an instant did they hesitate to choose the Black Robe, who had consecrated his life to them, rather than the minister in lay dress, installed in a comfortable home with wife and children, devoted to the interests of his family, giving only the time that remained to distributing Bibles”.

    Pg 52 - The Indians, meanwhile, were not overlooked. Dispossessed of their lands and driven west by the whites, they now found refuge and support in the Catholic Church. A considerable number of them, whose fathers had been instructed and baptized by the Jesuits, were well disposed toward Catholicity. Protestant ministers made repeated attempts to gain their confidence, but were always coldly received." "What had they to do," asked the Indians, "with married preachers, men who wore no crucifix, and said no rosary? They wanted only the Black Robes to teach them how to serve God. They even went so far as to appeal to the President of the United States, asking that the married ministers might be recalled and Catholic priests sent in their place."

    Pg 117 - I was given the place of honor in the chief's tent, who, surrounded by forty of his braves, addressed me in the following words: 'Black Robe, this is the happiest day of our lives, for to-day, for the first time, we see in our midst a man who is near to the Great Spirit. These are the principal warriors of my tribe. I have invited them to the feast I have prepared for you, that they may never forget the great day.""'

    It seems strange that with the savages the fact of being a Catholic priest merited a triumphal reception for the lowly missionary, while in other times, and to men proud of their civilization, he would have been the object of suspicion. During the repast the great chief showered attentions on his guest, even to giving him a mouthful of his own food to chew, a refined usage among his tribe.

    At night, after the missionary had retired and was about to fall asleep, he saw the chief who had received him with so much honor, enter his tent. Brandishing a knife that gleamed in the light of the torch, he said: "Black Robe, are you afraid?" The missionary, taking the chief's hand, placed it on his breast and replied: "See if my heart beats more rapidly than usual! Why should I be afraid? You have fed me with your own hands, and I am as safe in your tent as I would be in my father's house." Flattered by this reply, the Blackfoot renewed his professions of friendship; he had wished only to test the confidence of his guest.

    Pg 86 - Protestant ministers tried to compete with the Catholic priests; but between a salaried official who distributed tracts to inquisitive members of the tribe, and the missionary, devoted body and soul to their interests, the Indians did not hesitate to make a choice." They refused the most alluring offers from Protestants and came from all directions to ask for a Black Robe to show them the way to heaven.

    "After five years' residence with the Otoes, the Protestant minister has not yet baptized one person, and the greater part of the Protestant missionaries who overrun the Indian Territory make no better showing." (Letter of Father De Smet to Father Verhaegen, June, 1838.)
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24