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On the source site there are a lot of comments, and about half of them are not very appreciative.
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Apparently the author intended a kind of sensationalism to SHOCK rank-and-file Novus Ordo Catholics "who are already starting to connect the dots" to recognize that the time is now to vote with your feet. Some really don't want to do any foot-voting, so they're just mad instead.
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WhispersofRestorationOCTOBER 17, 2018 AT 8:30 PM
Indeed, he will use the Novus Ordo. We’re pointing out that the Novus Ordo itself is still newsworthy, and allows in principle for unlimited novel adjustments in the future – something being strongly signaled in the Amazon Synod preparations, and which we intend to write more on in the near future. Stay tuned!
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editor
OCTOBER 17, 2018 AT 10:35 PM
I’m afraid I strongly dislike this type of writing. The page was emailed to me by a Catholic Truth reader who said something to the effect that things can’t get much worse… and I’ve just replied to tell him that, true enough, when the novus ordo was introduced all those years back, that was about as bad, liturgically, as it could get. I added that he’d presumably not realised that this was one of those articles calculated to shock only to realise you’d been fooled. I had realised quickly, not least when I read the quote from Paul VI NOT attributed to him, about the “nuisance” of ditching the traditional Mass. I think that’s dishonest. Causing unnecessary angst in souls already deeply disturbed by what is going on in the Church.
Honestly, things are so bad now, nobody with even a smattering of awareness of how the Devil is attacking the Church today, nobody should be attending, let alone writing about, the new Mass. Just vote with your feet. And if you are two hours away from a TLM, stay at home, read your missal, pray your rosary, do some extra spiritual reading. Nobody is obliged to participate in any “liturgy” which is a spiritual danger.
So, I disagree – the new Mass is anything but newsworthy. It’s dead. Cardinal Ranjith foretold, some years ago, that in 30 years, it would be gone. Don’t try to resuscitate it. Let it rest in peace.
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WhispersofRestorationOCTOBER 18, 2018 AT 3:08 AM
We couldn’t agree more with your encouragement to “vote with your feet” in leaving the Novus Ordo behind, and it’s precisely to this end that we’ve written the article.
You are certainly free to disagree that a rite not a half century old is still NEWS in the long memory of the Church (or not worth reporting on); but while some Catholics have the blessed awareness of this novelty and are “over it” as you suggest, they remain the exception to date.
This article is not chiefly for them, but rather for those who (as the first line suggests) are just beginning to “connect the dots” regarding the nature of the NO as a revolutionary abandonment of right worship and objective liturgical tradition.
Also, if you note any missing or incorrect attributions, or faulty references, we would welcome learning of such. All citations are accurate to our knowledge, albeit carefully positioned to make the aforementioned point. Blessings to you and your work!
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P Murphy
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 12:18 PM
I don’t think that is answering the question. ‘Bart’ asked if the Mass the Pope will celebrate at the end of the Synod will be different to any other Novus Ordo Mass – you appear to be saying that it will be a Novus Ordo Mass i.e. the current one. It is disingenuous to say that ANY time the Novus Ordo Mass is celebrated that it is a ‘new’ Mass because something that is over 50 years old is not ‘new’ – it’s 50 years old. Forget about comparisons with how long the Latin Mass has been celebrated. Have you deliberately mis-led people?
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Tim Brandyberry
OCTOBER 22, 2018 AT 2:37 AM
This piece was really confusing. You cannot really back up your case made here. The words of consecration are intact. The Mass is valid. It may well be that the LM will be the Mass of the future, after the storm and restoration, but you reach too far with your statements. Please go back, sit down before the Tabernacle and re-think the piece. You are dividing the Holy Church in ways that are not helpful.
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JB
OCTOBER 17, 2018 AT 6:17 PM
This is a very thorough commentary, expressing many concerns of mine all in one place. I will share it. Does anyone else feel as if they are being ripped into two by the constant instence [insistance] of non-truth as Truth? God help us
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Louie
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 3:34 PM
Very misleading article.Liked by 2 people
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Fr Khouri
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 5:39 PM
Agreed. Full of half truth and inaccuracies…I don’t care for the NO but it is valid and licit.
BTW Max Thurian became Catholic and a priest before his death and was not by the spouting ecuмenical heresies…people can change
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cmsgret
OCTOBER 17, 2018 AT 6:51 PM
So the only thing that won’t change is the collection?
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laicosunidosencristo
OCTOBER 18, 2018 AT 3:34 PM
That is how these modernist heretics pervert the Catholic Tradition and experiment with the young making them participants in their sacrilegious masses
https://www.facebook.com/itakaescolapiosgeneral/photos/a.369663249851139/1162527570564699/?type=3&theaterLike
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Steve Jacobson
OCTOBER 18, 2018 AT 6:01 PM
I’m sorry, but
this blog entry is quite misleading as it implies that Bergoglio would be undertaking to celebrate something different altogether from the rite of Mass he always presides over. I was skeptical after realizing that all of the footnotes referenced criticism of VII, as opposed to what readers are led to believe is something even beyond the Novus Ordo Missae. This only detracts from what should be real and contemporary criticism of his words and actions that occur on an almost daily basis, and are part of what is diabolical within what some people have referred to as a Youth “Sin-Nod”.
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WhispersofRestorationOCTOBER 19, 2018 AT 12:56 AM
No need to apologize for mistaking the article’s central point.
Still, if one were to consider a given Pope’s continued celebration of an impious, heterodox liturgical rite as somehow less “real” or “contemporary” (significant?) than ANYthing else among that Pope’s sundry words and deeds, such a one might benefit from a read of Jackson’s “Nothing Superfluous”; Mosebach’s “Heresy of Formlessness”; SIre’s “Phoenix from the Ashes”; or even our article below; for nothing could be more important than right worship, and thus nothing more disastrous than its loss, its removal, its replacement with a deviant construct – be that construct fifty seconds or fifty years old.
Bravo the restoration!
https://whispersofrestoration.blog/2018/03/27/et-invisibilium-why-we-cant-make-rites-or-doctrine/Like
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hellenback7
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 12:27 PM
You sound more like a Calvinist than a Catholic with your certainty of “righteousness”.
Although I would very much like to have access to TLM , I don’t.
I want to “strengthen what remains and is about to die” so I try, in an all to faltering manner, to work with what is granted me, both in and through The Love of Christ.
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hellenback7
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 12:01 PM
I agree entirely Steve.
This hyperbolic and misleading article had me considering giving up on the Sacranents [sacraments]
altogether as I was under the initial impression that there were to be further radical Protestant concessions (as if there haven’t been enough already).
This kind of article does a disservice to those who try to remain faithful under difficult circuмstances and is or seems a ploy to bolster the SSPX as the @only true Church.
I have enough trouble with what actually cues imunder Francis’ watch without having to worry about figuring out who else is trying to run The Chyrch based on their own agenda.
Shame on you people. You unsettle good propke’s Faith more than the present scandals tend to do!
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This is a declaration of liturgical revolution. – To My Beloved Sacred Servants
OCTOBER 19, 2018 AT 2:22 PM
[…] DESTROYER: Pope to Celebrate New Rite of Mass at Youth Synod Closing […]
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hellenback7
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 12:16 PM
Bishop Gracida, IMO you should not post this kind of virulent attack on what might be a less than optimal rendition of what is The Mass that has sustained most of the few good Catholics that remain in the visible Church.
Many good priests do their best to celebrate the NO Mass in a reverent manner.
I have absolutely no doubt that transubtatantiation takes place Ex opere operatu under the new form as long as the specified rubrics are adhered to.
Further agitation by self appointed “authorities” holds no more weight with me than the nonsensecsoewed by someone like James Martin.
This is The Roman Catholic Church; it is not the US political system!
Christ held His harshest condemnations fir those who held themselves up as paragons of virtue while dismissing others as “having missed the Truth” in regard to prayer and worship.
I believe Vigano and compared to this mean spirited, misleading attack his criticism seems mild.
I’m sick to death if this “holier than thou” nonsense.
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LMG
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 4:19 PM
Tacky approach to a serious topic. Excellent references, though.
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o'shea
OCTOBER 21, 2018 AT 7:53 PM
My email address is not being accepted when I click the ‘follow’ link . . .
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CATHOLIC HEADLINES 10.21.18 – The Stumbling Block
OCTOBER 22, 2018 AT 10:31 AM
[…] MONSTER: HERE COMES THE NEW PERVCHURCH FRANCISMASS OF YOUTH! […]
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scooby
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 5:28 AM
Very misleading article. I was scared, then had to reread (my first time here). If a validly ordained priest speaks the words of consecration established by the church, Jesus IS present. It is a valid consecration. Since the introduction of the Novo Ordo mass allowing mass to be said in the vernacular languages around the world, many protestants and others have entered His church who otherwise would not have. If you question the validity of those masses, after the Holy Father has explicitly guided you (Vatican II), are you any different than Martin Luther or any of the protestant reformers? Jesus does sacrifice His honor and glory to save his people and bring His presence to His people for the salvation of souls.
Eucharistic miracles have occurred with both rites of His mass. Both rites are valid. Daniel 12:11 has not happened yet,
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PJ Gee
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 4:59 PM
Stupid article.Yeah, I am going to be clear, this was a stupid article that was not clear that it was satiire. I can kind of understand it being a little old blog post, but it got picked up and reprinted elsewhere. If it wasn’t pointed out that it was a joke, I had no clear way of knowing it, and in these times, any wacky news about Pope Francis is believable.
So, this is on you – you did not make it clear enough it was a dumb joke.
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professorpratfall
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 5:03 PM
This is a stupid article.Ok, it is a little old blog post, I get that.
But you failed bigtime because you weren’t clear with your transition to the clarifying moment.
Too much weird stuff about this Pope to notice that weak transition.
I had to reread the article 3-4 times before I detected what you intended to do with the transition.
It’s not just us in the comments section – other feeds picked up this blog and reprinted under the same misunderstanding you caused, here.
I suggest you put a disclaimer at the top that you were being creaitve [creative] in painting a non-existent scenario.
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Out of the Pot, Already: A Word on 'Clickbait' - OnePeterFive
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 5:55 PM
[…] several months – including today’s reprint of Whispers of Restoration’s post on the new rite of the Mass. The cascade of opposition in the comments spurred me to write this response in defense of WOR and […]
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Shock: Pope to Celebrate New Rite of Mass at Closing of Youth Synod - OnePeterFive
OCTOBER 23, 2018 AT 7:45 PM
[…] note: This article was posted originally at Whispers of Restoration and is edited and republished here with […]
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timothybodenhorn
OCTOBER 24, 2018 AT 12:52 AM
Wonderful post! Making waves of Truth in social media. Praying for you and for Restoration.