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Monday, December 23, 2013
2nd update of the article: Before it disappears ... further slippage of François
- Thanks to the reader who has found it.
- Addendum: a reader has found us a heresy.
- 2nd Addendum : another drive we found not only a heresy, but a blasphemous quote.
If other readers find "pearls" of Francis, they send us. We will add one after another, in this article, and we will change the number updated in the title of the article.
http://it.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/12/20/il_papa:_il_mistero_del_nostro_incontro_con_dio_si_comprende_in_un/it1-757278La Madre di Gesù è stata the perfetta icona del silenzio. Dall'annuncio della sua eccezionale maternità al Calvario. Penso, osserva Papa Francesco, a "fifty fifty e taciuto flip ha ha detto quello non volte che sentiva per custodire it mistero del suo rapporto con Figlio" fino al silenzio più crudo, "ai piedi della Croce"
"It Vangelo non ci dice nulla: se ha detto una parola o no ... Era silenziosa my dentro il suo cuore, fifty cose diceva al Signore! "You, what giorno - questo è quello che abbiamo letto - mi hai detto che sarà great thou mi ha detto che gli avresti dato it Trono di Davide suo padre, che avrebbe regnato per semper e adesso lo vedo lì!. Madonna era umana! E forse the voglia di aveva say ' Bougie! ! Sono stata ingannata ' Giovanni Paolo II diceva questo, parlando della Madonna in what momento. Ma Lei, silenzio neck, ha coperto it mistero che non capiva e con questo silenzio che questo ha lasciato mistero poetess crescere fiorire e nella speranza ".
Addendum:
://es.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/12/17/el_apellido_de_dios_somos_cada_uno_de_nosotros,_el_papa_el_martes_en/spa-756410
Here heresy François says that Jesus is consubstantial with his Mother.
"Una vez alguien Decia escuché that: ¡Pasaje del Este Evangelio parece the guía telefónica! ' No, es otra cosa: Pasaje del Evangelio este es pura historia y tiene an important argumento. Es pura historia, porque Dios como Decia San Leon Papa Dios ha enviado has Hijo. Y es consustancial al Padre Jesús, Dios, pero también consustancial has Madre una mujer. Y esta es aquella consustancialidad the Madre. Dios ha hecho historia. Dios ha querido hacerse historia. Está con nosotros. Ha hecho el camino con nosotros ".
With Immaculate comment:
Modernist Freemasons have purposely at first to change the word "consubstantial" ( consubstantialem Patri ) the term "similar" ( the same nature as the Father ), by pretending that it was of the same. This is false. Indeed, we can say that Paul, who is a human being, has the same nature as Jacques, who is also a human being. But we can not say that Paul and Jacques are consubstantial , which means they have a unique substance for two people.
We come now to the second part of the modernist and Masonic process: we get back to the word consubstantial, but this time to say a pure heresy, Jesus, who is God, become consubstantial with Mary, who is a purely human creature. To say this is to remove God's divinity. So we can say of Jesus, besides the divine nature, he is a human that his mother helped him form nature, but we can not say that he is consubstantial with his Mother, which would mean that Jesus and Mary are two people in a single substance. In fact, the only possible case of consubstantiality (a word which necessarily implies a single substance for different people) is in God (mystery of the Holy Trinity). The substance of Jesus is separate from that of Mary. They do not form a single substance to both. Jesus is not consubstantial with him.
2nd addendum: God bears the name of man
http://www.zenit.org/fr/articles/le-pape-fete-son-anniversaire-avec-des-sans-abriFor the Pope, not only "God is consubstantial with [man]" but more "when God means that He is, He said 'I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.'" Thus, "the name of God" is "us, it's all of us."
"God is the name of [each] to make his name: 'I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Pedro, Marietta, Harmony, Marisa, Simon, of all! . the name of God is all. "
God "let the man write his story" as the believer is called to "Allow write his story. This is holiness (...).
With the Immaculate comment:
The phrase " the name of God is each " clearly means that God is no longer God. This is very serious. We recognize here the Masonic desire to man instead of God and God's equal rights. The name is what expresses the identity of a person. In God, the name expresses the essence of God. This is why it is unspeakable. So strictly speaking, saying: "God's name" is "us, it is all of us" is pure blasphemy. even here we see a statement that puts God in man: God "has left the man write his story, " said Francis. God obviously did not let the man write his story. Otherwise it means that God has subjected to man.
Note: About the difference between "consubstantial" and "similar"
Here is an interesting article:
AM I schismatic?
Etienne Gilson of the French Academy.
[We removed passages too "soft" section]
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"I was taken aback, however, by a passage at the beginning of the French Creed where it is said that the Son is " of the same kind " as the Father. I could sing the rest, but similar not happening. Upon reflection, I was soon to see why. This is that 'having always sung in Latin, that the Son is consubstantial with the Father, it seemed curious that consubstantiality would have changed in a simple and connaturality.
Our priests also seem not to have been informed of the event. A Mass, the celebrant continues imperturbably singing "consubstantialem Patri, as if nothing had happened, but we, lay flat country, we have only to follow the simplified liturgy for our use. That's what I said the young priest who one day I finished by asking, receiving him my French Mass, if nature was not a misprint. "Me, he told me, I'm here to distribute the leaves, all you have to do is to sing what is written above."
"Basically, he was right What was I going to meddle The.? great advantage for the Laity, to be invited to complete passivity is to be discharged thereby from liability. they would be without the devil schism Two people of the same kind are not necessarily the same substance. Two men, two horses, two leeks, are similar, but each is a separate substance, and that is why they are even two. qulils If I say even substance, I say at the same time that they have the same nature, but they can be similar without being the same substance. Am I still bound to believe that the Son is consubstantial with the Father Am I on the contrary bound to believe only nature? And if I persist in believing the first consubstantial, not I, in revolt against the schismatic liturgy in my parish, separate myself from the Church to which I am so deeply committed? "
"This is a situation well . embarrassing One might suppose that the Church of France continues this ecuмenical end, but no, the Greek symbols and Epiphanius of Nicaea specifically say that the Son is omousion tô patri symbol called Damasus, in usual. Gaul about the year 500, said although the Father and the Son they are unius naturae. , but he immediately adds uniusaue substantiee unius potestatis. Ancient symbol Clemens Trinitas is una divinitas says in these words the unity of the Holy Trinity because the three persons are "one source, one substance, one under and one power" People have the same nature, divine, as they are three;. as they are in a one God, they have the same substance: "Three confused nor separated, but in the joint and separate distinction in conjunction: united in substance but distinct in their names; joint by nature, by separate people . " I mention all of the formulas of faith we want to anathematize, with the Roman Council of 382, those who do not openly proclaim that the Holy Spirit, the Father and the Son are potestatis unius atque substantiae , and, to repeat on the unity of substance implies the unity of nature, but as texts that affirm the unity of substance, indicating whether or not the unity of nature, I do not remember any where the unity of nature is only mentioned:
"It is believed that the Son is of one substance with the Father, which is why they say homoousios with the Father, that is to say ejusdem cuм Patre substantiae Indeed, in Greek, Omos mean one, and ousia means substance, so the two together mean. single substance "
"The Council of Toledo (s. 675) seems to me to speak well. The three divine persons are one God because they are a single substance: " Hae sunt personae very unus Deus, not very dii: quia trium is una substantia, essentia una, una natura, divinitas una, una immensitas, una aeternitas . " And this Decree Jacobites (1441) have placed first the unity of substance, the source of all others. "
"The French symbol 1965 is, I believe, the first who did not come to eliminate fault "
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"It is disturbing to think that some sort of flabbiness of theological thought some might try to say that deep down these technical details are of little importance. For what good facilitate the act of believing, s it takes to relieve it of some of its substance the content of the act of faith? "
The Catholic France, No. 970 - July 2, 1965.
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