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Title: Pope Francis has died
Post by: forlorn on April 21, 2025, 03:06:06 AM
https://news.sky.com/story/pope-francis-has-died-the-vatican-says-12890455
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: ThatBritPapist on April 21, 2025, 03:59:54 AM
https://news.sky.com/story/pope-francis-has-died-the-vatican-says-12890455
:pray::pray::pray:
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: ThatBritPapist on April 21, 2025, 04:12:44 AM
:pray::pray::pray:
why the Downvote ? Pray for Francis ? Pray for someone who just died
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Stubborn on April 21, 2025, 04:35:03 AM
:pray:
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on April 21, 2025, 04:56:47 AM
We are all sedevacantists now.

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Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: ThatBritPapist on April 21, 2025, 05:07:44 AM
We are all sedevacantists now.

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We literally are all Sedes now, pull out the Umbraculum lads
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on April 21, 2025, 05:15:02 AM
As terrible as Bergoglio was JPII still has my vote for the worst heretic in the history of the Church. 
The only people I ever encountered who liked Bergoglio were already so far gone down the road of
progressivism that what he said didn't really matter that much.
I just don't think he sold his agenda as effectively as JPII as even a lot of so called conservatives
were taken in by him. 
We will soon see if the next "pope" is indeed the last according to St Malachy 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: forlorn on April 21, 2025, 05:22:38 AM
As terrible as Bergoglio was JPII still has my vote for the worst heretic in the history of the Church.
The only people I ever encountered who liked Bergoglio were already so far gone down the road of
progressivism that what he said didn't really matter that much.
I just don't think he sold his agenda as effectively as JPII as even a lot of so called conservatives
were taken in by him.
We will soon see if the next "pope" is indeed the last according to St Malachy
I thought Francis as "Peter the Roman'" was supposed to be last?
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: ThatBritPapist on April 21, 2025, 05:26:16 AM
As terrible as Bergoglio was JPII still has my vote for the worst heretic in the history of the Church.
The only people I ever encountered who liked Bergoglio were already so far gone down the road of
progressivism that what he said didn't really matter that much.
I just don't think he sold his agenda as effectively as JPII as even a lot of so called conservatives
were taken in by him.
We will soon see if the next "pope" is indeed the last according to St Malachy
Agreed its the same Neo-Cons who thought Thatcher,Regan and JP2 saved the West!
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on April 21, 2025, 05:37:01 AM
Agreed its the same Neo-Cons who thought Thatcher,Regan and JP2 saved the West!
It's for the same reason the antichrist will position himself as from the right according to Albert Pike. 
The marxists, feminists, LBGT, atheists coalition have already been beguiled by satan. It's those
who are hanging onto Christian principals that he most wants to seduce and corrupt. 
The left became so toxic that people were willing to embrace a man with the ethics of a used car salesman like Trump
as an alternative.
The craftiest move the St Galen mafia could make would be to install another Ratzinger type. He would make just enough concessions with the SSPX to bring them completely back into the fold. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Michelle on April 21, 2025, 06:39:37 AM
It's for the same reason the antichrist will position himself as from the right according to Albert Pike.
The marxists, feminists, LBGT, atheists coalition have already been beguiled by satan. It's those
who are hanging onto Christian principals that he most wants to seduce and corrupt.
The left became so toxic that people were willing to embrace a man with the ethics of a used car salesman like Trump
as an alternative.
The craftiest move the St Galen mafia could make would be to install another Ratzinger type. He would make just enough concessions with the SSPX to bring them completely back into the fold.
I completely agree with you.  Satan will tell 99% truth to get in one lie.  His only objective is to wipe the faith, dogma off the face of the earth.  The blurring the lines between black and white into a conservative gray works well for him.
I recently listened to a newly converted Catholic explain that he remains in the Novus Ordo because of the scientifically proven, Eucharistic "miracles."  He said God wants us to believe in the real presence and so He has given us these "miracles" to prove He is still there.
I thought to myself, the devil is very crafty in his twisted deception here because miracles do not prove the faith but the doctrinally sound faith proves the miracles.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on April 21, 2025, 06:50:24 AM
That judaizer, communist sack of <moderated> is worm food, now; and his soul is now feasted upon by Satan.

Matthew 7:21-23
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: WorldsAway on April 21, 2025, 06:55:17 AM
May God have mercy on his soul 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on April 21, 2025, 07:00:59 AM
That judaizer, communist sack of shit is worm food, now; and his soul is now feasted upon by Satan.

Matthew 7:21-23
Bergoglio devoted nearly every waking moment of his adult life to destroying Christ's church. Let that sink in for a moment or two. That's a level of evil that surpasses even a serial killer like Jeffrey Dahmer, who unlike Bergoglio, repented and expressed remorse over his monstrous deeds. 
Trads have likely uttered a million prayers for the old heretic during his pontificate and he showed absolutely no signs of walking back his masonic agenda. 
Good riddance to him
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: josefamenendez on April 21, 2025, 07:37:21 AM
What now?
It's almost more scary than Bergoglio.
Pray for the miracle of a Holy Pope despite all of the filth working against it.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 07:38:56 AM
What now?
It's almost more scary than Bergoglio.
I mean, he was dead for a while, anyway. They just needed the doppleganger to look sickly and say the rabbi died on Easter. What an absolute joke. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 07:39:19 AM
Well, regardless of his personal culpability, fact is that God allowed Bergoglio to occupy the position he was in, as what we deserve and as a chastisement.

Despite himself, he did a service to Traditional Catholicism by UNMASKING the Conciliar Church for what it really is, whereas Wojtyla and Ratzinger were able to keep it hidden enough (for those who did not want to see).

We should pray for the poor sap ... as what he did is in the past now, and as mentioned was allowed by God.  That's actually the key to forgiveness in general, to recognize that God allows everything and so everything ultimately comes from the Hand of God.  If someone even, say, murders a close friend or family member, we realize that God allowed that person's death at that time and in that manner, and the person could just as easily have dropped dead of a heart attack or died in a car accident.  In a way, the perps are really NPCs, so to speak, in God's plan.

As for the next one, if they roll out a "conservative" type like, oh, a Sarah, then you know it's a deception, since naturally speaking given the types that Bergoglio stacked the "Cardinalate" that would be impossible.  If that were to happen, the likes of Marshall, Matt, Lifesite, etc. would scurry back to the Conciliar Church so fast it will give us whiplash just to see it.  Sarah could come in and reinstate the Motu, restore Strickland, sack a few of the most egregious Modernists ... and the SSPX would be re-absorbed within a week's time, and the fence-sitters would be sucked back in.  It all depends on whether the enemy infiltrators feel they have enough time left in this period of the power of darkness to play that kind of long game ... and of course ultimately on what God will allow and therefore will.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 07:42:03 AM
I mean, he was dead for a while, anyway. They just needed the doppleganger to look sickly and say the rabbi died on Easter. What an absolute joke.

Not buying that one.  Looked a lot like him yesterday when he mumbled a few words.  Basically, I'm not seeing a cui bono for all that effort to keep him a live.  Do you have one to offer?  And is there evidence he was replaced?  As you know, I'm open to conspiracy theories, but if they don't have a credible cui bono it's a non-starter.  Did he even do anything for the last few weeks or months while this "double" was in place?  What would have been accomplished by it?
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 07:42:40 AM
As for the next one, if they roll out a "conservative" type like, oh, a Sarah, then you know it's a deception
A Benny 2.0? I think you'll right. I can't see a liberal anti-pope in there, again. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 07:45:38 AM
Not buying that one.  Looked a lot like him yesterday when he mumbled a few words.  Basically, I'm not seeing a cui bono for all that effort to keep him a live.  Do you have one to offer?  And is there evidence he was replaced?  As you know, I'm open to conspiracy theories, but if they don't have a credible cui bono it's a non-starter.  Did he even do anything for the last few weeks or months while this "double" was in place?  What would have been accomplished by it?
My guess would be their timing? 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: WorldsAway on April 21, 2025, 08:06:48 AM
Compare the outpouring of grief and prayers for this wicked man from "Catholics" to their overall silence, or outright hatred and spite, when +Williamson, a valiant defender of the faith, died. On one hand it shows clearly how these NOers and neo"Trads" lack sensus Catholicus..on the other hand, I'm sure Bergoglio stands in need of many, many, more prayers than +Williamson
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: josefamenendez on April 21, 2025, 08:10:16 AM


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In 2018, Eugenio Scalfari reported the words that Bergoglio supposedly confided to him about his vision of the afterlife:

“Sinful souls are not punished: those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and join the ranks of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, sinful souls simply disappear”.

These heretical ravings are directly opposed to the Catholic Faith, which teaches us that there is a particular Judgment for everyone, which Bergoglio could not escape. His soul has therefore not disappeared, nor has it dissolved: he will have to account for the crimes he has committed, first of all having usurped the throne of Peter in order to destroy the Catholic Church and loose so many souls.

But if this non-pope and anti-pope can no longer harm the Mystical Body, his heirs still remain, the subversives whom he has invalidly created “cardinals” and who have long been organizing themselves to ensure a continuator of the synodal revolution and the destructuring of the Papacy. In support of them are also the conservative Cardinals and Bishops who have been careful not to question the legitimacy of Jorge Bergoglio. It is on these people that the greatest responsibility for the outcome of the next “conclave” falls.

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Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: AMDGJMJ on April 21, 2025, 08:25:01 AM
I find it interesting how Vance visited Francis yesterday right before he died. 

https://apnews.com/article/pope-vance-us-migration-c9fc577cabff138de7bd8026133994fc (https://apnews.com/article/pope-vance-us-migration-c9fc577cabff138de7bd8026133994fc)
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 21, 2025, 08:47:19 AM
That judaizer, communist sack of shit is worm food, now; and his soul is now feasted upon by Satan.

Matthew 7:21-23
Not one to mince words, are you?

Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei. Requiescat in pace. Amen.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: drphil on April 21, 2025, 09:12:41 AM
Lord have mercy on your remnant faithfulSpare the faithful from the torments of the satan and his minions who live amongst men, even within the visible structure of your Most Holy Church down here on the world, may those who lead your flock within the visible structure upon your creation, one day, once again, reach toward and pursue the perfection and truth of the Holy Church of Christ our Lord. Ultimately, however, Lord, may your will be done, even if it is painful for a time and for many, your will is correct and true always. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on April 21, 2025, 09:28:31 AM
Meditating on Francis's judgement should be sobering for all of us, especially me.  I admit I have doubted his legitimacy and if I sinned in that I beg pardon.  I can't reasonably believe however that the chastisement of the Catholic Church is over.  Rather it seems to be just beginning.  The great winnowing down is upon us I believe, and I expect it to get very small but it will be purified.  God please don't let me lose my faith.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on April 21, 2025, 10:17:21 AM
As much as I dislike Pachamama worshiping apostates parading around as fake Popes, it's definitely a moment for reflection.  It's almost hard to imagine anyone worse but as he stacked the deck with like-minded followers, I guess we'll see who is next.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Twice dyed on April 21, 2025, 10:19:22 AM
That judaizer, communist sack of shit is worm food, now; and his soul is now feasted upon by Satan.

Matthew 7:21-23
Please consider that only Jesus will judge the souls, ultimately, so learn your catechism.
Pope Francis I, R.I.P. + Did he die on Easter? I thought it was Monday at 7 :35 Rome local time. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 10:29:02 AM
Please consider that only Jesus will judge the souls, ultimately, so learn your catechism.
Pope Francis I, R.I.P. + Did he die on Easter? I thought it was Monday at 7 :35 Rome local time.
We are all well aware God will judge us when we die.. 

He was objectively not a legit pope, so please call him Bergolio, despite him sitting in Rome. I honestly don't hope apostate heretics RIP. This is modernist BS
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 10:36:26 AM
Compare the outpouring of grief and prayers for this wicked man from "Catholics" to their overall silence, or outright hatred and spite, when +Williamson, a valiant defender of the faith, died. On one hand it shows clearly how these NOers and neo"Trads" lack sensus Catholicus..on the other hand, I'm sure Bergoglio stands in need of many, many, more prayers than +Williamson
^ Excellent point. I remember even trad/sspx/sede women not liking Williamson because he was a "chauvinist, tell-it-like-it-iser". I felt a great loss when he died.. We need straight to the point, red blooded men teaching us in the Church. These effeminate fαɢɢօts need to be flogged. I'm personally sick of this "be kind/nice" garbage. That time is over. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 10:37:48 AM
I find it interesting how Vance visited Francis yesterday right before he died.

https://apnews.com/article/pope-vance-us-migration-c9fc577cabff138de7bd8026133994fc (https://apnews.com/article/pope-vance-us-migration-c9fc577cabff138de7bd8026133994fc)
Vance is a closeted ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, too. Fitting.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: WorldsAway on April 21, 2025, 10:59:03 AM
We are all well aware God will judge us when we die..

He was objectively not a legit pope, so please call him Bergolio, despite him sitting in Rome. I honestly don't hope apostate heretics RIP. This is modernist BS
I don't think we have any more than a remote understanding of how truly terrible the torments of eternal damnation are..and while I believe in the general rule of "how you live is how you die", and while bergoglio did live as a vicious, heretic anti-Christ..I do not think any Catholic should wish or hope for even the most vile sinner to be eternally damned. We have to think, hell is a choice. Everyone who is damned chose Hell, they chose evil..Catholics cannot not wish for anyone to choose evil.
 Now of course, God's will is perfect and just so the damnation of any soul should be lauded (I believe I have read that the saints do indeed rejoice when someone is damned insofar as their damnation is a result of God's justice..someone correct me if I am wrong), but the Church Militant cannot be certain of anyone's damnation (aside from Judas), and cannot wish for anyone to sin (in this case, choosing Hell)
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 11:03:10 AM
I don't think we have any more than a remote understanding of how truly terrible the torments of eternal damnation are..and while I believe in the general rule of "how you live is how you die", and while bergoglio did live as a vicious, heretic anti-Christ..I do not think any Catholic should wish or hope for even the most vile sinner to be eternally damned. We have to think, hell is a choice. Everyone who is damned chose Hell, they chose evil..Catholics cannot not wish for anyone to choose evil.
 Now of course, God's will is perfect and just so the damnation of any soul should be lauded (I believe I have read that the saints do indeed rejoice when someone is damned insofar as their damnation is a result of God's justice..someone correct me if I am wrong), but the Church Militant cannot be certain of anyone's damnation (aside from Judas), and cannot wish for anyone to sin (in this case, choosing Hell)
Right, I pray he converted. I can do that, and that's all I'll do.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Matthew on April 21, 2025, 11:41:07 AM
Not buying that one.  Looked a lot like him yesterday when he mumbled a few words.  Basically, I'm not seeing a cui bono for all that effort to keep him a live.  Do you have one to offer?  And is there evidence he was replaced?  As you know, I'm open to conspiracy theories, but if they don't have a credible cui bono it's a non-starter.  Did he even do anything for the last few weeks or months while this "double" was in place?  What would have been accomplished by it?

I agree. I'm not one to shy away from more-reasonable alternate hypotheses about various major events, or "conspiracy theories" as the CIA dubbed them --

But they have to be reasonable. Just grasping onto any theory because it's counter-culture, contrarian, or shocking is just stupid.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Angelus on April 21, 2025, 11:48:16 AM
Meditate on Matthew 28:11-15:


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11  (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=28&l=11-#x)Who when they were departed, behold some of the guards came into the city, and told the chief priests all things that had been done. 12  (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=28&l=12-#x)And they being assembled together with the ancients, taking counsel, gave a great sum of money to the soldiers, 13  (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=28&l=13-#x)Saying: Say you, His disciples came by night, and stole him away when we were asleep. 14  (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=28&l=14-#x)And if the governor shall hear this, we will persuade him, and secure you. 15  (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=28&l=15-#x)So they taking the money, did as they were taught: and this word was spread abroad among the Jews even unto this day.

The plan of the Jews was to deceive people into believing that Jesus and his disciples faked the Resurrection. They paid the guards to make up a false story. The truth, of course, is that Jesus died a publicly verifiable death on the Cross and was Resurrected a few days later.

The Antichrist will do the exact opposite. He will deceive people into believing that he died when he actually did not die. There will be no publicly verifiable death like the death of Jesus on the Cross. Rather, Antichrist will pretend to die so that he can claim to be resurrected.

Hildegard on the Antichrist’s pretended death

From Scivias:

But I [the Antichrist] will die for you and to your glory, and rise again from death; and so I will deliver my people from Hell, that you may live gloriously with me in my kingdom, as that deceiver [Jesus] pretended He had done before." And he will tell his beloved ones to run him through with a sword and wrap him in a clean shroud, until the day of his resurrection. And he will delude them into thinking they are killing him, and so they will fulfill his commands. Then he will pretend to rise again, and bring out a writing as if for the salvation of souls, which is really a dire curse. And he will give this to people for a sign and command them to adore him. And if any person of faith refuses for love of My name, he will kill that person in great suffering and torture. And thus all who see and hear this will be struck with great wonder and doubtful amazement, as My beloved John shows... (Scivias, Book III, Vision 11, 31).

From Book of Divine Works:

For so too will he [the Antichrist] pretend to die, as if to redeem his people by his death, and to raise himself up again to return to life. He will also have an inscription written upon the foreheads of his followers, through which to introduce into them every evil, as too the ancient serpent, after deceiving humankind, kept them captive by stoking them with lust. Through that scripture he will inspire them by magical craft to oppose baptism and the Christian name, so that they will not desire to leave him, and all will style themselves after him, just as Christians are named after Christ. (The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 469, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 31).

Please be aware that they recently changed the papal funeral procedures. In the past, the uncovered face was displayed publicly on top of the catafalque in St. Peter's Basilica. The purpose of the public display of the face of the Pope was to prove to all interested parties that the Pope had actually died before the start of the next conclave.

But now the body will be placed inside the wooden casket and the face will be covered with "a plain white cloth." Why this change? Why would they cover his face? Do not be deceived.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Matthew on April 21, 2025, 12:22:49 PM
From Book of Divine Works:

For so too will he [the Antichrist] pretend to die, as if to redeem his people by his death, and to raise himself up again to return to life. He will also have an inscription written upon the foreheads of his followers, through which to introduce into them every evil, as too the ancient serpent, after deceiving humankind, kept them captive by stoking them with lust. Through that scripture he will inspire them by magical craft to oppose baptism and the Christian name, so that they will not desire to leave him, and all will style themselves after him, just as Christians are named after Christ. (The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 469, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 31).

Please be aware that they recently changed the papal funeral procedures. In the past, the uncovered face was displayed publicly on top of the catafalque in St. Peter's Basilica. The purpose of the public display of the face of the Pope was to prove to all interested parties that the Pope had actually died before the start of the next conclave.

But now the body will be placed inside the wooden casket and the face will be covered with "a plain white cloth." Why this change? Why would they cover his face? Do not be deceived.


Not gonna lie, this is firmly in WTF territory.

Not saying that Pope Francis was/is the Antichrist, but what the heck man? Why the sudden change of Papal funerary customs?
Is there a single explanation/excuse for this?

Jorge Bergoglio/Pope Francis was not killed in a fire or bomb explosion, or gunshot(s) to the head. There is NO excuse for a closed casket.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 12:48:25 PM
What if I don't believe in any way that the Elmer Fudd look-a-like fake pope was/is THE Antichrist - will I be deceived? I mean don't you think the Antichrist would have carried himself with more composure? Would he have not spoken eloquently, instead of spouting the theology of an addle-brained nincompoop? Would not the Spirit of Satan in him have kept him from looking like such a ridiculous buffoon. I mean shouldn't he be a "smooth talker", refined, and universally admirable man? Even many Prots and Orthos disliked Jorge... Just saying. One can pray that God may have interiorly illuminated Jorge as to his many grievous sins against the faith and gifted him with true contrition, but he externally showed no sign of repentance, so I am not holding my breath on this one.


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I find the idea of this man being THE Antichrist amusing. In fact, I find such a notion so incredulous that even if "he was to rise from the dead" I could, I should think, do nothing but surmise that Satan was the dumbest fool ever created instead of the greatest pure intelligence. I mean, "Come on Luci, this is what you were waiting for all this time?" It in truth, would be the second greatest act of general mercy God ever performed, if he allows Jorge to be proven THE Antichrist by allowing him to "rise" - as droves of millions would easily see through it. They hated him before, and they would hate him even more after.
Yea, I don't believe he was the "anti-christ" either, however, I'll stand by this time that, he did have a double.  It's been done before in history many times from what I've read. Not necessarily a pope, but kings queens, important people, etc. The Vatican and those close to the current "pope", are all in on it, and can easily explain away if they get "caught" with a double. I mean they do unspeakable things there to begin with so, to me.. it's not that left field.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Angelus on April 21, 2025, 01:19:09 PM
What if I don't believe in any way that the Elmer Fudd look-a-like fake pope was/is THE Antichrist - will I be deceived? I mean don't you think the Antichrist would have carried himself with more composure? Would he have not spoken eloquently, instead of spouting the theology of an addle-brained nincompoop? Would not the Spirit of Satan in him have kept him from looking like such a ridiculous buffoon. I mean shouldn't he be a "smooth talker", refined, and universally admirable man? Even many Prots and Orthos disliked Jorge... Just saying. One can pray that God may have interiorly illuminated Jorge as to his many grievous sins against the faith and gifted him with true contrition, but he externally showed no sign of repentance, so I am not holding my breath on this one.


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I find the idea of this man being THE Antichrist amusing. In fact, I find such a notion so incredulous that even if "he was to rise from the dead" I could, I should think, do nothing but surmise that Satan was the dumbest fool ever created instead of the greatest pure intelligence. I mean, "Come on Luci, this is what you were waiting for all this time?" It in truth, would be the second greatest act of general mercy God ever performed, if he allows Jorge to be proven THE Antichrist by allowing him to "rise" - as droves of millions would easily see through it. They hated him before, and they would hate him even more after.

And the Jews said that Jesus was not "the Christ" because he didn't fit the profile based on their interpretation of the OT prophecies.

They expected a powerful King that would finally smite all the enemies of Israel and put the Jews in control of the world government. 

Instead, what they saw was a poor man with a following of some fishermen, a few publicans, and a mixed group of women that included a notorious sinner.

No, the doctors and the scribes were not going to be deceived by a false prophet like Jesus. They were way too smart for that. And, to this day, the Jews think their ancestors were correct to reject Jesus and put Him to death for claiming to be God.

Similarly, the Antichrist is not what most "educated" Christians think he is. Here is a description:


Description of the Antichrist in St. Hildegard von Bingen (1173 AD)

The Antichrist will indeed be infused by the devil when he opens his mouth to teach perversity, as described above. He will destroy all that God established with the ancient and the new law, and he will assert that sɛҳuąƖ immorality and other like things are not sins at all. For he will claim that it is not a sin if flesh heats up flesh, just as it is not a sin if a person warms himself by the fire. He will also assert that all commandments concerning chastity were made in ignorance, for since one person may be hot but another cold, they ought to moderate one another with their heat and cold.

And again he will say to the faithful, 

“Your law of sɛҳuąƖ restraint was established contrary to the way of nature. Is a person not supposed to be hot, when his very breath is a fire that kindles his whole body? How could he keep his cool when it’s against his nature? Conversely, what reason could a person have to refuse to offer warmth to another’s flesh? For that man who you say is your master gave you a law that goes beyond measure when he bid you to live in such a way. But I say, embrace these two paths of hot and cold, and keep each other in your warm embrace! Consider that the man just mentioned gave you unjust commands, for despite his order that people not embrace one another with such warmth, they still maintained the nature of their flesh. So see here and do not be misled any longer by an unjust teaching, for with me you get to do whatever you want or not. Your master did not set before you correct propositions; he wanted you to be like a spirit that is unbound by the flesh and cannot physically do anything. But that’s not how naturally-born human flesh was created; rather it’s flooded and formed by fire, because if human children weren’t created in that way, they wouldn’t be capable of physical action. So know then what you really are! For your first teacher deceived you and didn’t help you in anything. But I inspire you really to learn about yourselves and to know what you are, for I created you, and I am completely in all things. In assigning all his works to another, meanwhile, that one spoke nothing on his own because he couldn’t do anything on his own. But I speak for myself, and I can do all things by myself.”

With these words and others like them, that wretched son of perdition will mislead people, teaching them to live according to the flesh’s fiery appetite and to achieve their flesh’s every want--despite the fact that both the old and the new law encourage humans to chastity in such a way that chastity does not surpass its proper measure.

The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 466-467, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 30 (in part).

Sound familiar? Does that sound like some geo-political leader's words? Or the words of a heretic Antipope? How would the Antichrist be able to "mislead" Catholics ("the elect") into believing that "that all commandments concerning chastity were made in ignorance?"

Connect the dots. Put 2 and 2 together and throw out your prejudices about what the Antichrist will "look like."

Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 01:19:56 PM
A double? For what purpose? He was always a commie modernist cut from the masonic cloth of Vatican II even as a young "priest". While I understand that someone might make that claim about Montini (as this may help someone "explain" what happened back then) I just don't see it here. They have had 12 years to plan who the next fake pope will be, and Jorge stacked the deck in their favor.
Like I said before, I believe it has to do with their timing. If their guy "quits"/"dies" before they are ready, they need a back up. Figureheads are still very important today. They pretend they are in charge when, someone is pulling the strings. If the figurehead is missing, people start asking questions.

The current Vatican isn't just filled with good-to-do misled men who are apostates/Heretics/Modernists... They are in bed with the SOS, Jews, WEF, etc., working with them to piece the puzzle of their plan. Don't know the nitty gritty, but they are deceiving on purpose. They are not ignorant of the gravity of their soul crushing leadership. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 01:21:14 PM
From WM Review:

Francis is dead, RIP - The WM Review (https://www.wmreview.org/p/francis-is-dead-rip)

Are we all sedevacantists now?

We are about to hear the same joke a thousand times: “We're all sedevacantists now.”

How funny. But no, “we're” not. Sedevacantism is predicated not just on a vacant see, but the Church's teaching on the papacy and her own constitution.

Many who are chortling about how "we're sedevacantists now" do not accept this doctrine and theology, which is why they will swiftly accept whoever is elected—even “Pope Susan.”

I responded on X to that post as follows ...
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So what you're saying is that we're all sedevacantists now materialiter but not formaliter ... so the expression "we're all sedes now" is true secundum quid, id est, materialiter.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 21, 2025, 02:05:06 PM
Please consider that only Jesus will judge the souls, ultimately, so learn your catechism.
Pope Francis I, R.I.P. + Did he die on Easter? I thought it was Monday at 7 :35 Rome local time.

Not to nitpick, but an ordinal number would not be used unless (God forbid) there were a "Francis II".

I know Pope John Paul I adopted this of his own choosing (kind of ominous when you think about it), but that was quirky.  Not sure why he did that.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 02:33:48 PM
As terrible as Bergoglio was JPII still has my vote for the worst heretic in the history of the Church.

100% ... and he did a thousand times more harm.

Jorge was so brazen and open about it that anyone who had a Catholic cell left in his body recognized him for who he was, and he unmasked the truce face of the Conciliar Church ... whereas Wojtyla and Ratzinger fooled many.

If you look at the EWTN types, you could listen to hours of their radio programming and think you were listening to Traditional Catholics ... until they start talking about non-Catholic religions, and whether non-Catholics can be saved and the Sacraments are necessary for salvation.  Then the wheels come off and they're absolutely heretical and openly Pelagian.

Because Wojtyla held the line on Catholic morals ... well, pretended to, because he paid lip service to it but did absolutely nothing to back it up ... and because he was a convincing actor who made sure to be photographed within 20 yards of a statue of Our Lady and holding a rosary, and as a result many considered him to be a saint and a paragon of orthodoxy, he was able to poison many otherwise-well-meaing Catholics with his heresies.  Wojtyla was the greatest religious indifferentist ever to sit on the chair, making Bergoglio's "Pachamama" episode seems like childsplay.  Trad, Inc. were outraged by that, but Wojtyla's activities put that to shame.

Wojtyla poisoned the dogmatic theology of nearly all "conservative" Catholics.  Then Bergoglio came in to finish off moral theology.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on April 21, 2025, 02:56:34 PM
100% ... and he did a thousand times more harm.

Jorge was so brazen and open about it that anyone who had a Catholic cell left in his body recognized him for who he was, and he unmasked the truce face of the Conciliar Church ... whereas Wojtyla and Ratzinger fooled many.

If you look at the EWTN types, you could listen to hours of their radio programming and think you were listening to Traditional Catholics ... until they start talking about non-Catholic religions, and whether non-Catholics can be saved and the Sacraments are necessary for salvation.  Then the wheels come off and they're absolutely heretical and openly Pelagian.

Because Wojtyla held the line on Catholic morals ... well, pretended to, because he paid lip service to it but did absolutely nothing to back it up ... and because he was a convincing actor who made sure to be photographed within 20 yards of a statue of Our Lady and holding a rosary, and as a result many considered him to be a saint and a paragon of orthodoxy, he was able to poison many otherwise-well-meaing Catholics with his heresies.  Wojtyla was the greatest religious indifferentist ever to sit on the chair, making Bergoglio's "Pachamama" episode seems like childsplay.  Trad, Inc. were outraged by that, but Wojtyla's activities put that to shame.

Wojtyla poisoned the dogmatic theology of nearly all "conservative" Catholics.  Then Bergoglio came in to finish off moral theology.
Not to mention that it was under Wojtyla that the seminaries became absolutely infested with sodomites and kid touchers. He promoted so many bishops and cardinals that protected those criminals that JPII deserved a man of the century award from NAMBLA. Then he sold off properties like hospitals, schools, parishes to pay off the billions in settlements for the victims. JPII's church issued destroyed tens of thousands of marriages with easy and bogus annulments.  
Don't even get me started about the crooks he placed in charge of the Vatican banks, like Archbishop Marcinkus, in launder mafia money.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: forlorn on April 21, 2025, 03:47:49 PM
Not to nitpick, but an ordinal number would not be used unless (God forbid) there were a "Francis II".

I know Pope John Paul I adopted this of his own choosing (kind of ominous when you think about it), but that was quirky.  Not sure why he did that.
Probably to get ahead of arguments about whether or not he should be numbered with the other Pope Johns.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Geremia on April 21, 2025, 04:29:15 PM
Cdl. Dolan saying the phrase "sede vacante"… eerie, @ 00:20. (https://x.com/anotherkimber/status/1914290732879294567?t=VnMgFOPsw6RlM588yOijaQ&s=19)
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Giovanni Berto on April 21, 2025, 05:07:27 PM
Traditionalists will stop the fighting for the time being, since we are now all Sedevacantists for a little while.:laugh1:
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Cera on April 21, 2025, 05:52:12 PM
Vance is a closeted ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, too. Fitting.
Please provide a source. Otherwise stop the calumny, for the sake of your soul.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Cera on April 21, 2025, 05:54:06 PM
Right, I pray he converted. I can do that, and that's all I'll do.
Did you say the OUr Father as part of your Rosary today? Did you miss this part -- "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 06:06:42 PM
Did you say the OUr Father as part of your Rosary today? Did you miss this part -- "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."

What does this have anything to do with forgiveness or lack thereof?  He says he's praying for the man's conversion.  Talk about calumny.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Everlast22 on April 21, 2025, 06:12:46 PM
Did you say the OUr Father as part of your Rosary today? Did you miss this part -- "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."
Cera, go take a hike
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Predestination2 on April 21, 2025, 06:16:27 PM
Prediction - they won’t elect another antipope. Bergoglio was the false prophet, the antichrist will be here in 2029
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Ladislaus on April 21, 2025, 06:30:51 PM
Prediction - they won’t elect another antipope. Bergoglio was the false prophet, the antichrist will be here in 2029

Yes, the Dimond Brothers' view.  Well, we'll find out whether your prediction (and their theory) are falsified within the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: SimpleMan on April 21, 2025, 07:32:47 PM
Probably to get ahead of arguments about whether or not he should be numbered with the other Pope Johns.

I didn't think of that.  That is a possibility.  We hadn't had popes with double-barrelled names up to that point.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Michelle on April 21, 2025, 08:46:57 PM
I think it was in the The Book of Destiny I read, the antichrist will come at a time of global economic turmoil, revolutions, wars, natural disasters, famine, pestilence and uprisings.  I also remember reading, the false prophet will be a fallen away bishop (maybe pope) and the antichrist will be a political leader.

My theory, and humble opinion is that the world is being set up right now for economic turmoil by inflation, tarrif wars, market instability and dollar devaluation.  The weather is being modified causing natural disasters and crop failures. The food is being attacked by pesticides, cloud seeding, bad laws and culling our protein sources. All these attacks will prepare the dire conditions for the arrival of the antichrist.  The next "pope" will be a very conservative, likeable ecuмenist, EWTN type "christian" zionist. He will condition the more traditional Catholic souls to embrace the antichrist through false signs and false miracles.

Albert Pike predicted that by the third world war there will be no atheists nor Christians as they will be so disillusioned with all the failed prophecies and false shepherds.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Incredulous on May 14, 2025, 01:39:03 PM

As terrible as Bergoglio was JPII still has my vote for the worst heretic in the history of the Church.
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Papal actor, par excellence!
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Persto on May 14, 2025, 04:01:43 PM
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2022/02/01/speaking-of-bastard-sons-of-evil-communist-tyrants/
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Sergio Bergman, Argentinian Rabbi, politician.  "His rabbi: Pope Francis"
He looks like Bergoglio's son.


Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Matthew on May 14, 2025, 04:16:56 PM
Yes, the Dimond Brothers' view.  Well, we'll find out whether your prediction (and their theory) are falsified within the next few weeks.

Falsification confirmed.

I agree with the Dimond Brothers on evolution/Creation, and the fact that the Church is in Crisis. Pretty much end of list. A broken clock is right twice a day, and the few truths they utter can easily be heard in many other places. Conclusion: they are garbage and to be avoided.

My prediction is that the Antichrist is FAR away, as in 4 decades at least. And yes, 400 years is "at least 4 decades". I'm being conservative.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Miseremini on May 14, 2025, 04:40:02 PM
Not gonna lie, this is firmly in WTF territory.

Not saying that Pope Francis was/is the Antichrist, but what the heck man? Why the sudden change of Papal funerary customs?
Is there a single explanation/excuse for this?

Jorge Bergoglio/Pope Francis was not killed in a fire or bomb explosion, or gunshot(s) to the head. There is NO excuse for a closed casket.
He never referred to himself as Pope.
He never lived in the Papal Palace.
His funeral was certainly different.

Maybe he was an usurper and God didn't allow him certain privileges.
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on May 14, 2025, 05:36:23 PM
Falsification confirmed.

I agree with the Dimond Brothers on evolution/Creation, and the fact that the Church is in Crisis. Pretty much end of list. A broken clock is right twice a day, and the few truths they utter can easily be heard in many other places. Conclusion: they are garbage and to be avoided.

My prediction is that the Antichrist is FAR away, as in 4 decades at least. And yes, 400 years is "at least 4 decades". I'm being conservative.
No way, the jews themselves think their messiah is much much closer. Watch some videos by their most influential rabbis on youtube. They claim he has already been born and they would be in a far better position to know than a bunch of trad Catholics completely outside of the world's power structures. 
Although their grip on power is almost complete they recognize that it could quickly crumble by any number of unforeseen factors. For one thing their h0Ɩ0h0αx propaganda is no longer as effective to shield them from all criticism. Thanks to the internet, cracks have formed in the narrative, the younger generation is indifferent(too consumed with weed and porn to care), and they can't keep a lid on their genocide project.
I firmly believe the scamdemic was their intended big push to create the digital prison but they decided to delay things, probably due to AI not being far enough along or opting to concentrate on destroying their regional enemies.
If Trump/Vance doesn't attack Iran before the end of their term than I would concede you might be right in your estimate. 
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: Miseremini on May 14, 2025, 05:54:37 PM
Does anyone remember when Netanyahu came to power he gave a speech and said the Messiah would only come amidst great trials, tribulation and confusion and was going to do everything in his power to bring about his coming. 
I was shocked to hear such a thing, but trying to find it now it appears it's been scrubbed from the net.
I think one of the Catholic magazines picked it up.
Does anyone remember it?
Title: Re: Pope Francis has died
Post by: VerdenFell on May 14, 2025, 05:59:29 PM
Does anyone remember when Netanyahu came to power he gave a speech and said the Messiah would only come amidst great trials, tribulation and confusion and was going to do everything in his power to bring about his coming. 
I was shocked to hear such a thing, but trying to find it now it appears it's been scrubbed from the net.
I think one of the Catholic magazines picked it up.
Does anyone remember it?
I vaguely remember that and he was prompted/ordered by no less than Rabbi Schneerson to bring about those conditions of turmoil. I doubt you could find a bigger zionist in Israel than Netanyahu or have one sitting in the White House like Trump. One of many reasons why they consider it go time.