I wonder if Fellay knew about this before he started his new rosary crusade.

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Francis Concerned:

'They're Counting Rosaries!'

Poor Jorge Bergoglio. Poor "Pope" Francis. Most of the world believes him to be the Pope of the Catholic Church, including the majority of those who consider themselves Catholic Traditionalists or Traditional Catholics. So some of these latter wanted to give their "Pope" a nice spiritual bouquet to show their love and loyalty, but they forgot that the recipient of this bouquet isn't a Catholic and so he doesn't know what to do with it. In an anecdote the "Holy Father" himself related, upon his election as Francis, he got a letter from one of those (his words) "restorationist groups" in Buenos Aires, telling him: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries."
For a Catholic, that is wonderful news. How many graces must have been unlocked through so many Rosaries prayed by faithful souls! What a blessing!
That's how a Catholic reacts. Mr. Bergoglio reacted differently. Instead of being humbled at this kindness, gratefully receiving the bouquet, and perhaps offering some prayers in return, knowing what a wonderful gift it is to receive over 3,500 Rosaries, Francis says that this bouquet is evidence of a "Pelagian current" and it "concerned" him because "one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council... One feels in 1940.... Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting..." (Address to CLAR on June 6, 2013).
Yes, "this thing of counting".... It's actually how a Catholic spiritual bouquet works. In case you think Francis is sounding like a Protestant here, it's because he is one. In fact, this is the same Bergoglio who used to send people to a Lutheran layman to get an "exorcism". So what do you expect? (What? Michael Voris didn't cover this on The Vortex??)
It is candid moments like this one that reveal who a person really is or what he really thinks. No one thought this would be reported in the press, and CLAR (Confederación Latinoamericana y Caribeña de Religiosos y Religiosas) expressed its regret that it was published (see apology under "2nd Update" here). So this is an insightful glimpse into the real Francis, about whom we've been reporting since Day 1 - see our Francis page here. (In the meantime, we're still waiting for "Father Z" [Mr. John Zuhlsdorf] to provide some damage control he usually issues on his blog at this point in time.)
This embarrassing remark on the part of Mr. Bergoglio is yet another piece of evidence that the usual suspects in the semi-traditionalist enterprise (Ferrara, Vennari [in part], Salza, Gruner, Matt, Zuhlsdorf, Voris, etc.) are misleading their readers by their constant coloring and spinning of reality in these most serious matters. They do not go by principles and facts to arrive at a sound conclusion, but rather have a prepared, pre-held conclusion to which they then seek to make the evidence fit.
So, for example, on March 14, 2013, in a snippet titled "Pope Francis: The Marian Dimension", U.S.-based attorney and semi-traditionalist kingpin Christopher Ferrara attempted to persuade his readers that "Pope" Francis held a "Marian piety of the most traditional sort". What did Ferrara base this laughable claim on? The mere fact that Francis' first act the day after his election was to visit the Basilica of St. Mary Major in Rome, to pray there and to put a bouquet of flowers in front of the statue of the Blessed Mother. This act alone made Ferrara pen the following lines:
"That the new Pope's first devotional act was to visit the world's oldest Marian church in order to venerate a Marian icon of such august provenance evidences a Marian piety of the most traditional sort. In these early stages of the new pontificate, we cannot overlook the Marian dimension of the former Archbishop of Buenos Aires."
Ah, yes, you see, this act "evidences" not just a devotion to the Blessed Mother (which would be the most one could objectively conclude from it, but even that only by ignoring other evidence), but, even more so, "a Marian piety of the most traditional sort". This simply has nothing to do with reality. It is spin, nothing but spin, by a lawyer whose job it is to get people excited about the new "Pope" and "Fr." Gruner's Fatima apostolate. That's all. It is not based on a calm and objective examination of the relevant facts. (For a prior example of how Chris Ferrara spun reality on Ratzinger, only to be refuted afterwards by Ratzinger himself, see our essay No Friend of Fatima.)
Now, of course, Ferrara and his fellow-spinmeisters have egg on their face. The "Pope" with the "Marian piety of the most traditional sort" has revealed himself to be clueless about traditional Catholic devotions and customs (the counting of prayers for a spiritual bouquet) which to him are signs of a "Pelagian current" by people stuck in the 1940s who - horror of horrors! - "count" the Rosaries they pray for someone so they can tell him how many Rosaries are being offered for him. And this is the man "Fr." Gruner hopes is the "Pope who will consecrate Russia" (see this video beginning at the 10:53 mark). You just can't make this stuff up!
Of course, all of this embarrassment for the semi-traditionalists could have been avoided, had they only reported on the real Bergoglio right from the start and allowed the evidence to rule their conclusions instead of the other way around. But Our Blessed Lord counseled us: "Let them alone: they are blind, and leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the pit" (Matthew 15:14). And this is exactly what is going on here. Compare the stories, links, and commentaries you get here at Novus Ordo Watch with the information you get from sites like the Fatima Center, The Remnant, ChurchMilitant.TV, etc., and ask yourself who is giving you the real scoop on what is going on with the Novus Ordo Church and its leaders.
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This interview where Pope Francis expressed his weird opinion as to counting rosaries being "pelagian" and also being "like something from a really really distant time" is even more telling because this meeting was among modernist friends and the group that sent the spiritual boquet of 3,500 rosaries was some indult group in Argentina and not the SSPX so he was really downplaying (if not insulting) some soft headead but probably good hearted and faithful Catholics who think Pope Francis is, underneath it all, one of them.

This interview has two or three very telling psychological clues loaded inside if someone just wanted to unlock them.

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There ought to be a new statue designed, a more realistic one.

It ought to look like this:





Instead of like this:




(You can click on this statue picture.  It's harmless.  Try it!)


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Pope Francis to Lead the Recitation of the Rosary in May

http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-to-lead-the-recitation-of-the-rosary

Pope Francis Prescribes Daily Rosary

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1304848.htm

Pope Francis Urges Catholics to Pray the Rosary to Fight Evil

After the confusion of Ratzinger, Bergoglio may be a breath of fresh air for some. Conciliar purists have found their man at last without the hangups of antiquity! There is an image of a Che Guevara figure emerging from a wilderness of honesty and humility to battle establishment corruption and the religious dross accuмulated over centuries. That is a powerful image while it lasts, almost Christ-like. I wondered why revolutionairies grew beards!

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Pope Francis Urges Catholics to Pray the Rosary to Fight Evil

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/5jSPzNBNawo[/youtube]

When Francis says, "to fight evil," we might think he's referring to the things that WE THINK OF, when we think of what is "evil" -- but think again.

When you think of what evil is, do you immediately think of youth unemployment?  Francis does.

When you think of what evil is, does "the loneliness of the elderly" come immediately to mind?  It does for Francis.

When you think of what constitutes evil, do you think "PAIN! SUFFERING!?"   Francis does.  Maybe he thinks that when we contemplate Our Lord's Passion, we are contemplating evil?  Who knows?  Can you say for sure that for Francis, the thought of martyrdom is not an evil thought?

When you think of evil, do you think, "Abortion, contraception?"  Now, here is news:

Francis does NOT think so.  In fact, he thinks Catholics are all hung up on thinking that baby murder and the mortal sin of deliberately frustrating conception is "evil."  


So, the bottom line is, what you think is beside the point, Francis thinks is "evil" and what you think is evil, Francis thinks is beside the point.  


So,
No, his idea of "evil" is frankly (pun intended)
inimical to Catholic Tradition.  


So when he says, for example, "Pray the Rosary to fight evil," he's talking about an entirely different thing than you would expect.
He thinks that we should pray the Rosary for the end of 'evil capiatlism', and for an end to our obsession with abortion and contraception, and for an end to prejudice against atheism and various false religions.  

He believes that ever since Our Lord rose from the dead, we are no longer slaves to sin!  Read his Urbi et Orbi message from Easter 2013 again, in case you missed it, MrsZ.  Therefore, he believes that for us to pray that man be given the grace to rise above his slavery to his own sin, is A USELESS ENDEAVOR BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER SLAVES TO SIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Again,
What we think is important, Francis thinks is beside the point.




These Francis videos are instructive.   There's one where its title is Francis Prays Rosary With Congregation, or something similar, so I watched it.  It's in Italian with no sub-titles.  He takes his seat, in front of the congregation, in a big chair with its back to the people, as if he wanted to prevent them from noticing what he does all the while everyone ELSE prays the Rosary.  A few camera shots manage to look at him from the side (there are no cameras in front of him), but they somehow manage to never get a closeup of his face during the second half of the prayers.  For he does not LEAD the Rosary, and therefore, he does not move his lips during the first half of the prayers.  One sequence shows him holding his rosary in his lap, placidly, then it pans up to his face during the first half of an Ave, which is led by a woman at the podium on the opposite side of the sanctuary, and the very moment when she ends her words and the people respond, the camera fades out, and we cannot see whether Francis answers with the crowd, or not.  But he has no microphone and we can't hear him at all.  


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Wessex, dependably cynical.  

How can you so worm your way into the thinking of Liberals without actually BEING one yourself?  You must have someone who explains this stuff to you.  I can't imagine you being a Liberal.  How do you do it?  Or is that asking too much?

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He's British. They can do that, as they can likewise read his commentary with sufficient restraint to avoid bursting out in laughter.

Idk--I think the actual statue captures his effeminacy better.

I gotta tell ya.  I know there are quite a few here who have posted their suspicions about Francis being light in his loafers, but I'm really starting to wonder myself.