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« on: November 13, 2013, 01:39:39 PM »
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  • The Holy Father bestowed his apostolic blessing on the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, which celebrates the twenty-fifth anniversary of its foundation on Saturday, November 16th.

    The gesture is symbolic. On October 28th, Pope Francis bestowed his apostolic blessing on the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, on the occasion of the twenty-fifth anniversary of its foundation.

    This is the first time since his accession to the throne of St. Peter, that the Pope has made a sign in the direction of the traditionalist faithful. In a letter to Father Vincent Ribeton, District Superior of France, by Luigi Ventura, Apostolic Nuncio to France, Pope Francis thinks that "by celebrating the sacred mysteries according to the extraordinary form of the Roman rite ( ... ) [ the members of the Fraternity of St. Peter ] contribute, in fidelity to the living tradition of the Church, to a better understanding and implementation of Vatican II." He urges them "according to their own charisma, to take an active part in the mission of the Church in the world today by the testimony of a holy life, a firm faith and a creative and generous charity.”

    Founded in 1988, the Fraternity of Saint Peter is a society of priests attached to the extraordinary form of the Roman rite. It has over 400 members worldwide, including 244 priests and 153 seminarians.

    A Jubilee Mass will be celebrated Saturday November 16th, at 10:00 am in the Church of St. Sulpice in Paris by Father Vincent Ribeton.

    by Elisabeth Caillemer

    source : http://www.famillechretienne.fr


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    « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 02:25:18 PM »
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  • He just wants to keep trads under the freemasonic umbrella.
    Once people become convinced that he is trying to destroy the church they will break away to keep the religion pure. No Catholic should recognise a non-Catholic as pope.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 03:08:18 PM »
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    This is the first time since his accession to the throne of St. Peter, that the Pope has made a sign in the direction of the traditionalist faithful.



    I see a Rome-SSPX agreement looming in the distance.



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    « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 03:15:25 PM »
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  • I'm sure this makes the likes of Fellay and most of the SD and FE posters just giddy with excitement.  Might be good to keep in mind that he gave an apostolic blessing to atheists, too.  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 03:16:02 PM »
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  • In other words he is scheduled to 'visit' one of his church's museum projects and in a moment of token condescension attempts to measure its contribution to the  bland conciliar scene. And whether they like it or not, those conceiving these projects are firmly part of the conciliar scene. They need to fully appreciate the role assigned them, a role which requires them to be more worldly.

       


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    « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 03:41:35 PM »
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    " He urges them "according to their own charisma, to take an active part in the mission of the Church in the world today by the testimony of a holy life, a firm faith and a creative and generous charity.”


    Yeah, just get in line right next to the Neocats and the St. Egidio group, we can all have our own charismas in the post Vat2 circus. Who's that particularly ridiculous looking clown? Oh, that's actually the circus director, he just happens to dress up as a clown sometimes, he's so very humble, you see.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 04:00:20 PM »
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  • Saint Michael's Church got an "apostolic blessing" from JPII, that's conspicuously posted in the back of the church. I really don't even believe that they really even see the requests for these things, and they're just rubber stamped. If I had a pic of it, I would link it.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 04:26:50 PM »
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  • Folks,

    You will recall that the Holy Father is given to calling up, attending the weddings of, and otherwise getting involved with people he doesn't know from Adam.  

    By contrast, the FSSP, stalwart defenders of the hermeneutic of reform and continuity, gets a letter delivered by Cardinal Ventura, the nuncio to France, on the stationery of the nunciature, saying that the Pope sends his blessing .  

    Let me express the letter's real message:

    "My attitude to you, Fraternity of St. Peter, is indifference verging on contempt. You're not important enough for me, or even someone else in the Vatican, to do up a letter. All the attention any traditonalists will get from me is the occasional denunciation of those who make their attachment to the Old Mass into an ideology."

    How's that for a pastoral communication from a shepherd who knows the smell of the sheep?

    This is no news to the FSSP.  The laymen who do the work on Rorate Caeli have made no secret of their abhorrence of the Holy Father's words and deeds, and the proprietors of the site are a half-dozen FSSP priests.  

    The Holy Father probably doesn't know anything about this; and if he did, he probably wouldn't care.  He doesn't think enough of Tradition to hate it, or think it important enough to attack.  

    You might call it practical excommunication.  

     


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    « Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 04:38:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Anthony
    Folks,
    You might call it practical excommunication.  

     


    Well they do serve a function and are rewarded with some pretty fancy churches.

    What do you mean the proprietors of Rorate are FSSP priests?
    Way back Rorate used to report far more on regular events in the SSPX, like ordinations etc, but no longer.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013, 04:41:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Saint Michael's Church got an "apostolic blessing" from JPII, that's conspicuously posted in the back of the church. I really don't even believe that they really even see the requests for these things, and they're just rubber stamped. If I had a pic of it, I would link it.


    Dear PFT,

    Such docuмents memorializing a papal blessing go back to pre-Vatican II days.

    In any event, they are better than what the FSSP got.  They at least came from Rome.  Notice also that the letter didn't go to the FSSP's Superior General.  I know just about nothing about Church protocol; but clearly the only question here is exactly what kind of insult was being delivered to the FSSP in general, and its SG in particular, and to what purpose.  It is no secret that the FSSP is far from united.  Perhaps this is meant to strengthen the hand of Rome's favorite.  Perhaps it's being hinted that Fr. Berg should go the way of Pope Benedict.


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    « Reply #10 on: November 14, 2013, 03:41:52 AM »
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    By contrast, the FSSP, stalwart defenders of the hermeneutic of reform and continuity, gets a letter delivered by Cardinal Ventura, the nuncio to France, on the stationery of the nunciature, saying that the Pope sends his blessing .  

     


    Question for you, John:

    Are you a "stalwart defender of the hermeneutic of reform and continuity?"


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    « Reply #11 on: November 14, 2013, 09:24:16 AM »
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  • If we look at it from another perspective, it’s interesting to see that within the last two weeks, at least 3 articles have appeared on different internet websites which try to show that Pope Francis isn’t against the Traditional Mass.

    On the website La Porte Latine, the official SSPX site of the District of France, we can find the article in this thread on the papal benediction given to the St. Peter’s Society, as well as an article talking about the internal dissension in the Franciscans of the Immaculate (this is the reason given as to why the Pope insisted on the use of the Novus Ordo only in this religious community. Roman officials say it isn’t because he is against the traditional liturgy).

    The other article appeared on November 11th, on CatholicCulture.org (and can be found on a thread here on Cathinfo). It states that at the General Assembly of the International Una Voce Federation, Cardinal Castrillon said that Pope Francis, “has no intention of restricting access to the Extraordinary Form of the latin liturgy,” and that Pope Francis has no problem with the old rite or with groups that promote it.

    I’m sure the aim of all this is to pave the way for an eventual Rome-SSPX agreement.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 14, 2013, 01:41:28 PM »
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  • Pope Francis has no use for tradition.  We all know that.  He blesses the FSSP.  So what?  Can't we make an intelligent guess as to why he did this?  I think so.  Francis merely wishes to drive a deeper wedge between traditional Catholics.  So he singles out one faction for a blessing, and leaves the several other factions unblessed.  Big deal!  

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    « Reply #13 on: November 14, 2013, 02:31:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: hollingsworth
    Pope Francis has no use for tradition.  We all know that.  He blesses the FSSP.  So what?  Can't we make an intelligent guess as to why he did this?  I think so.  Francis merely wishes to drive a deeper wedge between traditional Catholics.  So he singles out one faction for a blessing, and leaves the several other factions unblessed.  Big deal!  


    I'm new to all the different players, but isn't this group also one of the groups that made an agreement with the Vatican not to speak ill of the New Mass/VII?  If so, does this blessing really mean anything?  Perhaps it's just a reminder not to slip up...or they'll lose that "blessing".
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #14 on: November 14, 2013, 03:02:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: hollingsworth
    Pope Francis has no use for tradition.  We all know that.  He blesses the FSSP.  So what?  Can't we make an intelligent guess as to why he did this?  I think so.  Francis merely wishes to drive a deeper wedge between traditional Catholics.  So he singles out one faction for a blessing, and leaves the several other factions unblessed.  Big deal!  


    I have to disagree on the intention. We had a recent visit to Francis (private audience) from Card. Castillon Hoyos who knows the SSPX and +Fellay well. IMO, he advised the pope on how to win the SSPX by reassuring them that they can continue to do the “Extraordinary Form”.  The current gestures to traditionalists are to lure the SSPX into the trap.
     
    In the meantime, I learned last week from a priest friend of the SSPX that the “New” 1962 Missal that was recently released in Germany, was stopped because of further changes ordered.  As long as the SSPX insists in using the 1962 Missal and regulated by Summorum Pontificuм (not to mention the “six conditions”), Rome will bring them to the Novus Ordo anytime they wish by additional changes to the missal until the E.F and the O.F are one and the same.

    What does Francis have to loose? Did anyone listened to Michael Matt's video clip covering the last SSPX conference? Michael Matt insists twice or so the the SSPX is not going to Rome "for now". Maybe Card. Hoyos was sent to Francis by +Fellay for assurances? We should soon find out.
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