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Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?

Yes! They have the guts to do it.
15 (60%)
No! They're gutless and won't do it.
2 (8%)
They'll consecrate an unconditionally ordained Novus ordo priest. Anyone questioning it will be a sede.
8 (32%)

Total Members Voted: 25

Voting closes: February 14, 2026, 12:48:47 PM

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Offline Seraphina

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Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 12:03:30 PM »
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    • If I were proposing candidates, two men came immediately to mind.  Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!)  
    Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, the other.  However I seriously doubt they’ll consider either. The SSPX is still tied too closely to France. 
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    Offline Steve

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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 04:08:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 06:09:30 PM
    No.
    He's good, but... he has been actively 'collaborating' with the canceled conciliar priest operation at Sanctus Ranch, in San Antonio, TX, giving retreats for youth, being a guest speaker.  


    Isn’t this just the kind of gray area operation that is both:


    1) so confusing to sincere N.O. Catholics feeling about and trying to come to Tradition; and

    2) so easily manipulable(sp?) by the same agents who have used N.O. to frog boil souls in place over time [i.e. if those souls do not get clear facts about what happened at VII and why +ABL's last direction was: ' no practical agreement with Conciliar Rome until Rome makes a wholesale doctrinal correction from VII?']

    I respect the canceled N.O. clerics, bishop(s) for heroically resisting their erring superiors in favor of TLM, but I have yet to hear any of them make a public statement like +Abp Vigano has done repudiating all of VII Modernism.  Vigano also had the integrity to become conditionally re-consecrated... these actions are crucial before throwing our lot in with these people. 

     Yes, they may have a pretty good game of golf (to use +Bp W's humorous illustration)... but we need more than that, otherwise we will not convert them, they will convert us.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 08:28:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Steve on Yesterday at 04:08:33 PM
    He's good, but... he has been actively 'collaborating' with the canceled conciliar priest operation at Sanctus Ranch, in San Antonio, TX, giving retreats for youth, being a guest speaker. 

    Not only that, but I've read a few things he's written and ... just not good.
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 08:29:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 12:03:30 PM
    If I were proposing candidates, two men came immediately to mind.  Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!) 
    Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, the other.  However I seriously doubt they’ll consider either. The SSPX is still tied too closely to France.

    I've not kept up with Father Timothy Pfeiffer, but I respected him greatly when I was at seminary.  If he hasn't changed much, then I would second that.

    We all know, of course, that anyone those of us here on CI would recommend have already been disqualified, and are already relegated to obscurity within SSPX, where they should certainly be high-level superiors.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 08:34:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on February 02, 2026, 08:13:58 PM
    Would the consecration be valid in your view if the ordination was not valid?
    I feel like we’ve discussed this before but I don’t remember

    Probably not.  By far the majority opinion among Catholic theologians is that you cannot AT LEAST IN THE ROMAN RITE consecrate anyone other than a priest to be a bishop.

    I think it might be possible in the abstract, but if you look at the ESSENTIAL FORM of the Traditional Roman Rite, it refers to elevating a priest to the episcopacy:  "Comple in sacerdote tuo ..." ... complete IN YOUR PRIEST the summit of ministry.  There can be no COMPLETION IN A PRIEST for a layman or a deacon even.

    So, in the Roman Rite, it would almost certainly be invalid ... but even then at the very least given that the majority theological opinion hold it to be invalid or doubtful ... it must be considered doubtful.

    That's another place where Bishop Kelly's made-up standards regarding the +Thuc line bishops is a total fail.  OK, so he insists there should be two co-consecrators present to ENSURE the validity of episcopal consecration.  But, uhm, there was only one bishop who performed his Ordination, and one lowly parish priest who performed his Baptism, and if either one of those had been botched, then you could have 300 bishops as co-consecrators, and it wouldn't make a lick of difference.
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 09:18:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 07:51:31 AM
    Quote from: Ladislaus 2/3/2026, 8:51:31 AM



    Was Father Vassal the young Prior in Post Falls when their scandal blew up around 2018?
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 09:29:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 12:03:30 PM
    Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!) 


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    "May I ask, who else in this room holds a Master's degree in Computer Science?"

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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 09:34:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 08:28:04 PM

    Not only that, but I've read a few things he's written and ... just not good.

    The whole Quito, Ecuador SSPX conquest operation he spearheaded (7) years back was not good.
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 10:04:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on Yesterday at 09:34:54 PM

    The whole Quito, Ecuador SSPX conquest operation he spearheaded (7) years back was not good.
    I was there. I had no idea that the Novus Ordo "Archbishop" and "priests" would be leading the procession on the Feast of the Purification.  Father Purdy and all the SSPX priests and pilgrims followed them around the city praying the rosary which ended in the church of our Lady of Good Success. My stomach dropped when I noticed the table set up for the novus ordo service. I couldn't get out of there quick enough.
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 10:10:43 PM »
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    • Father Kevin Robinson would be a miracle and reason to celebrate.  He is one of the few priests who does not genuflect during the prayer for the Jews during Good Friday, and he is a wonderful priest for so many reasons. He is a fighter who stood up and defeated the evil powers in NJ during the scamdemic.
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 11:34:45 PM »
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    • My guess is that they will not consecrate anyone above 50.
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    Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
    « Reply #41 on: Today at 12:55:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on Yesterday at 10:04:00 PM
    I was there. I had no idea that the Novus Ordo "Archbishop" and "priests" would be leading the procession on the Feast of the Purification.  Father Purdy and all the SSPX priests and pilgrims followed them around the city praying the rosary which ended in the church of our Lady of Good Success. My stomach dropped when I noticed the table set up for the novus ordo service. I couldn't get out of there quick enough.

    Do you live in Quito? Or did they encourage people from other places to go there for this event?
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