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Title: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 02, 2026, 12:48:47 PM
My first choice for the SSPX consecration.

(https://i.imgur.com/CNUcqLo.png)
                              Father Richard Boyle


Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Stubborn on February 02, 2026, 01:09:17 PM
My first choice for the SSPX consecration.

(https://i.imgur.com/CNUcqLo.png)
                              Father Richard Boyle
My 1st choice too!
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2026, 02:10:39 PM
My first choice
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Stubborn on February 02, 2026, 02:40:46 PM
My first choice
Another good one!
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2026, 02:45:04 PM
Same age that Bishop Williamson was.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Matthew on February 02, 2026, 02:59:21 PM
It's official.

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2026/02/urgent-society-of-saint-pius-x-sspx.html (https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2026/02/urgent-society-of-saint-pius-x-sspx.html)
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:06:55 PM
So, the stated need is to relieve the SSPX bishops from having to travel all over the world for confirmations.

Since they're already holding them on Novus Ordo churches, have no problem with Novus Ordo "Holy Orders", then why not just have the Novus Ordo "bishop" confirm them?

What "emergency" do you have?  When you need priests, just ask Rome to "ordain" them?  Don't you "trust" Rome?

They're a walking bag of contradictions.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:09:32 PM
You know what the REAL "emergency" consists of?

"Look, if we run out of bishops, then everybody would go over to the Resistance bishops, since +Williamson already consecrated 6 or else to sedevacantists."  That's probably the only "emergency" that both Pagliarani and Prevost can agree on.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:13:31 PM
Why this Father Boyle?

IMO, anyone who has stuck with SSPX and has been loyal enough to merit consideration would therefore be disqualified as anyone's "choice".

SSPX will only pick some lackey who's compromised, but even outside of those, the rest have just gone along.

At the end of the day, therefore, it really doesn't matter.

I think that most of us here only attend SSPX chapels since it's what is available, so as long as they have valid Orders and you end up with a valid priest.  Beyond that, you can't hope for much good.

What would the "best" of them do ... split off from SSPX due to an unwilingness to compromise?  Oh, wait ... there are already 6 such bishops out there.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 02, 2026, 03:16:04 PM
My first choice

Cera,

Please tell us the priest's name and why you like him?
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:17:33 PM
Until we get someone who believes in and teaches that there's No Salvation Outside the Church and also does not attribute defectibility to the Holy Catholics Church, and does not blaspheme Holy Mother Church by saying that she's turned into this Whore (of Babylon) ...

it's just pick your poison and a question not of how good, but of how bad.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 02, 2026, 03:18:25 PM


(https://i.imgur.com/h1g26TR.png)
How about Father Purdy?
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 02, 2026, 03:25:39 PM
Why this Father Boyle?

IMO, anyone who has stuck with SSPX and has been loyal enough to merit consideration would therefore be disqualified as anyone's "choice".

SSPX will only pick some lackey who's compromised, but even outside of those, the rest have just gone along.

At the end of the day, therefore, it really doesn't matter.

I think that most of us here only attend SSPX chapels since it's what is available, so as long as they have valid Orders and you end up with a valid priest.  Beyond that, you can't hope for much good.

What would the "best" of them do ... split off from SSPX due to an unwilingness to compromise?  Oh, wait ... there are already 6 such bishops out there.

Father Boyle has some experience and class and is generally respected.  

Agree that as the SSPX becomes increasingly compromised, it is harder and harder to accept them as a group.

But, I suppose most of us still view their Sacraments as valid, except for the priests who are from newChurch ordinations.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:28:21 PM

Father Boyle has some experience and class and is generally respected. 

Agree that as the SSPX becomes increasingly compromised, it is harder and harder to accept them as a group.

But, I suppose most of us still view their Sacraments as valid, except for the priests who are from newChurch ordinations.

Right ... and that's where I'm of the opinion that, OK, he may be the best of that group, but in terms of valid Sacraments, does it matter really?  As for getting true, solid doctrine ... anybody who had that and boldly proclaimed it, and wasn't a suck-up lackey ... would already have worked their way out of SSPX.  There are some who are still "old school", but the very best of them just "keep quiet" about their views lest they be tossed.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 03:30:16 PM
So, the reason I thought they had been stretching it out is that they were probably trying to stretch it out for a few years until they maneuvered Huonder into position to perform some ordinations, and then after a little while they would "consecrate" the Huonder-"ordained" doubtful priest as one of the bishops, after which all heck would break loose, Sacrametal chaos even worse than what they have due to the injetion of some Novus Ordo presbyters.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Stubborn on February 02, 2026, 06:08:18 PM

Cera,

Please tell us the priest's name and why you like him?
Fr. Steven Weber, I like him because I think he is a good, orthodox priest and pro EENS.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 02, 2026, 06:09:30 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/h1g26TR.png)
How about Father Purdy?

No.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2026, 06:35:52 PM

Cera,

Please tell us the priest's name and why you like him?
Fr Steven Webber, one of the only SSPX priests with the true Abp Lefebvre spirit left IMO. He is a very holy humble man, you can feel it in his presence, we were blessed with him for 3 years, he stands apart from the others we’ve encountered. We came to tradition 6 years ago and I have never encountered such a holy man beyond Bp Tissier who did our confirmations.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Mithrandylan on February 02, 2026, 07:10:46 PM

Father Boyle has some experience and class and is generally respected. 

Agree that as the SSPX becomes increasingly compromised, it is harder and harder to accept them as a group.

But, I suppose most of us still view their Sacraments as valid, except for the priests who are from newChurch ordinations.
Has something changed? Fr Boyle struck me as a company man to the nth degree. 
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: WaitForTheDawn on February 02, 2026, 07:56:51 PM
Fr. Kevin Robinson would be an outstanding choice. He is an excellent priest that I have been blessed to attend retreats with in the past. However, my assumption is SSPX leadership will go for a younger, less strongly/openly anti-modernist candidate. 
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on February 02, 2026, 08:13:58 PM
So, the reason I thought they had been stretching it out is that they were probably trying to stretch it out for a few years until they maneuvered Huonder into position to perform some ordinations, and then after a little while they would "consecrate" the Huonder-"ordained" doubtful priest as one of the bishops, after which all heck would break loose, Sacrametal chaos even worse than what they have due to the injetion of some Novus Ordo presbyters.
Would the consecration be valid in your view if the ordination was not valid?
I feel like we’ve discussed this before but I don’t remember 
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: WorldsAway on February 02, 2026, 08:28:26 PM
Fr. Kevin Robinson would be an outstanding choice. He is an excellent priest that I have been blessed to attend retreats with in the past. However, my assumption is SSPX leadership will go for a younger, less strongly/openly anti-modernist candidate.
He is a great priest, possibly the best in the Society!  
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Stubborn on February 03, 2026, 04:39:32 AM
Has something changed? Fr Boyle struck me as a company man to the nth degree.
Fr. Boyle was great when he was at my SSPX, as Incred said, he was well respected and well liked. He gave my dad the Last Rites, then about a week or so later, for no apparent reason and *completely* out of the blue, he called and said he wanted to come over and give my dad the apostolic blessing, which he did. It was only a few hours later that my dad died. Deo Gratias!    

I'll take a company man like that any day.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 07:47:00 AM
Fr. Boyle was great when he was at my SSPX, as Incred said, he was well respected and well liked. He gave my dad the Last Rites, then about a week or so later, for no apparent reason and *completely* out of the blue, he called and said he wanted to come over and give my dad the apostolic blessing, which he did. It was only a few hours later that my dad died. Deo Gratias!   

I'll take a company man like that any day.

That's great and all, and makes him a wonderful pastor, caring for souls ... but bishops are more actively involved in teaching and they exert a strong doctrinal influence, so being a holy pastor of souls does NOT qualify someone to be a good bishop.  Otherwise, St. John Vianney and St. John Bosco and many others should have been consecrated bishops.  But St. John Vianney wasn't exactly top of his class where it came to doctrine, nor were his talents best applied to doing the other types of things that most Ordinaries tend to do, such as organizing, fundraiding, political appearances, etc.  I personally would never WANT to be a bishop, since I'd much rather be just a priest offering Mass and caring for souls, than travelling the world doing confirmations, making political speeches ... etc., and of course the duties of SSPX priests are limited since they don't have ordinary jurisdiciton.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 07:49:45 AM
He is a great priest, possibly the best in the Society! 

Yes ... Kevin Robinson would be one of my top vote-getters also.  Not only is he a good priest, a pastor of souls, but he's very sound doctrinally, on most subjects ... though in terms of EENS you're not going to find anyone who's all that great really.

Let's just say he doesn't shy away from the same controversial issues that Bishop Williamson fearlessly dealt with ... and that's of course why he's tucked away in the retreat house, not even a prior.

Basically, anybody who's any good or solid doctrinally ... vs. a yes-man itching for regularization ... doesn't have a snowballs' chance in hell of being selected.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 07:51:31 AM
Fr Steven Webber, one of the only SSPX priests with the true Abp Lefebvre spirit left IMO. He is a very holy humble man, you can feel it in his presence, we were blessed with him for 3 years, he stands apart from the others we’ve encountered. We came to tradition 6 years ago and I have never encountered such a holy man beyond Bp Tissier who did our confirmations.

Again ... I get holy priests who care of souls.  I've known quite a few of them in SSPX, but not a one of them would have made for a good bishop.

Of those mentioned thus far, Father Kevin Robison IMO would be about as solid as you could find in SSPX ... which is why he's already pre-disqualified.

Father Peter Scott ... though I disagree with him on quite a few issues (and there isn't anyone in SSPX I cant' say that off), he would also make about as fine a bishop as you could find in SSPX, but he too is some assistant in Nigeria, hidden away.

They can't even be bothered to put his picture on the website here ...
(https://i.postimg.cc/sgdsLtrg/peter-scott.jpg)
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 03, 2026, 08:47:20 AM
Fr. Boyle was great when he was at my SSPX, as Incred said, he was well respected and well liked. He gave my dad the Last Rites, then about a week or so later, for no apparent reason and *completely* out of the blue, he called and said he wanted to come over and give my dad the apostolic blessing, which he did. It was only a few hours later that my dad died. Deo Gratias!   

I'll take a company man like that any day.

Wow!... Our Lady's intervention!  Deo Gratias indeed!  :incense:
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 03, 2026, 08:54:39 AM
Yes ... Kevin Robinson would be one of my top vote-getters also.  Not only is he a good priest, a pastor of souls, but he's very sound doctrinally, on most subjects ... though in terms of EENS you're not going to find anyone who's all that great really.

Let's just say he doesn't shy away from the same controversial issues that Bishop Williamson fearlessly dealt with ... and that's of course why he's tucked away in the retreat house, not even a prior.

Basically, anybody who's any good or solid doctrinally ... vs. a yes-man itching for regularization ... doesn't have a snowballs' chance in hell of being selected.

Agree that the "secret" (judaic) forces moving the SSPX to newChurch perdition would derail any SSPX Bishop who tried to authentically resist them.

But if such a Bishop came forth and became a white or red martyr for the true Faith, graces would flow to the whole Remnant.

It could happen, although the jew-bookie's odds are heavily against it.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Giovanni Berto on February 03, 2026, 09:01:13 AM
Just the other day I was seeing a video from Bp. Sanborn and they were commenting how the French in general dislike Americans, and how they never had an American superior for the US seminary after him. Even though we have a lot of liberal American SSPX priests, it seems likely to me that we will have only European bishops.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 09:09:05 AM
Just the other day I was seeing a video from Bp. Sanborn and they were commenting how the French in general dislike Americans, and how they never had an American superior for the US seminary after him. Even though we have a lot of liberal American SSPX priests, it seems likely to me that we will have only European bishops.

Oh, it's absolutely true that the Frogs are Anti-American.  Now, the French also have that long history of Gallican attitudes, where they've long disparaged the authority of the Pope.  Now, that might change if an actual Frog were elected to the Papacy, but until then, it's hard for them to accept [someone whom the consider to be] an inferior individual as Pope.

Now, not ALL Frenchmen have that attitude, but many do.  I knew one or two exceptions.

Yes, I'd be surprised if an American or even Enlighsman or Australian were chosen.  If they DO select such a one, that makes it even MORE likely that he'd be an infiltrator.  :laugh1:
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Seraphina on February 03, 2026, 12:03:30 PM
If I were proposing candidates, two men came immediately to mind.  Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!)  
Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, the other.  However I seriously doubt they’ll consider either. The SSPX is still tied too closely to France. 
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Steve on February 03, 2026, 04:08:33 PM
No.
He's good, but... he has been actively 'collaborating' with the canceled conciliar priest operation at Sanctus Ranch, in San Antonio, TX, giving retreats for youth, being a guest speaker.  


Isn’t this just the kind of gray area operation that is both:


1) so confusing to sincere N.O. Catholics feeling about and trying to come to Tradition; and

2) so easily manipulable(sp?) by the same agents who have used N.O. to frog boil souls in place over time [i.e. if those souls do not get clear facts about what happened at VII and why +ABL's last direction was: ' no practical agreement with Conciliar Rome until Rome makes a wholesale doctrinal correction from VII?']

I respect the canceled N.O. clerics, bishop(s) for heroically resisting their erring superiors in favor of TLM, but I have yet to hear any of them make a public statement like +Abp Vigano has done repudiating all of VII Modernism.  Vigano also had the integrity to become conditionally re-consecrated... these actions are crucial before throwing our lot in with these people. 

 Yes, they may have a pretty good game of golf (to use +Bp W's humorous illustration)... but we need more than that, otherwise we will not convert them, they will convert us.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 08:28:04 PM
He's good, but... he has been actively 'collaborating' with the canceled conciliar priest operation at Sanctus Ranch, in San Antonio, TX, giving retreats for youth, being a guest speaker. 

Not only that, but I've read a few things he's written and ... just not good.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 08:29:49 PM
If I were proposing candidates, two men came immediately to mind.  Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!) 
Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, the other.  However I seriously doubt they’ll consider either. The SSPX is still tied too closely to France.

I've not kept up with Father Timothy Pfeiffer, but I respected him greatly when I was at seminary.  If he hasn't changed much, then I would second that.

We all know, of course, that anyone those of us here on CI would recommend have already been disqualified, and are already relegated to obscurity within SSPX, where they should certainly be high-level superiors.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 03, 2026, 08:34:23 PM
Would the consecration be valid in your view if the ordination was not valid?
I feel like we’ve discussed this before but I don’t remember

Probably not.  By far the majority opinion among Catholic theologians is that you cannot AT LEAST IN THE ROMAN RITE consecrate anyone other than a priest to be a bishop.

I think it might be possible in the abstract, but if you look at the ESSENTIAL FORM of the Traditional Roman Rite, it refers to elevating a priest to the episcopacy:  "Comple in sacerdote tuo ..." ... complete IN YOUR PRIEST the summit of ministry.  There can be no COMPLETION IN A PRIEST for a layman or a deacon even.

So, in the Roman Rite, it would almost certainly be invalid ... but even then at the very least given that the majority theological opinion hold it to be invalid or doubtful ... it must be considered doubtful.

That's another place where Bishop Kelly's made-up standards regarding the +Thuc line bishops is a total fail.  OK, so he insists there should be two co-consecrators present to ENSURE the validity of episcopal consecration.  But, uhm, there was only one bishop who performed his Ordination, and one lowly parish priest who performed his Baptism, and if either one of those had been botched, then you could have 300 bishops as co-consecrators, and it wouldn't make a lick of difference.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 03, 2026, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=78962.msg1015681#msg1015681) 2/3/2026, 8:51:31 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgdsLtrg/peter-scott.jpg)

Was Father Vassal the young Prior in Post Falls when their scandal blew up around 2018?
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 03, 2026, 09:29:03 PM
Fr. Kevin Robinson (former Australian now American, not the Fr. Nye, the Science Guy!) 


(https://i.imgur.com/DLRqOSV.jpeg).                   

"May I ask, who else in this room holds a Master's degree in Computer Science?"

Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 03, 2026, 09:34:54 PM

Not only that, but I've read a few things he's written and ... just not good.

The whole Quito, Ecuador SSPX conquest operation he spearheaded (7) years back was not good.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Michelle on February 03, 2026, 10:04:00 PM

The whole Quito, Ecuador SSPX conquest operation he spearheaded (7) years back was not good.
I was there. I had no idea that the Novus Ordo "Archbishop" and "priests" would be leading the procession on the Feast of the Purification.  Father Purdy and all the SSPX priests and pilgrims followed them around the city praying the rosary which ended in the church of our Lady of Good Success. My stomach dropped when I noticed the table set up for the novus ordo service. I couldn't get out of there quick enough.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Vicchio on February 03, 2026, 10:10:43 PM
Father Kevin Robinson would be a miracle and reason to celebrate.  He is one of the few priests who does not genuflect during the prayer for the Jews during Good Friday, and he is a wonderful priest for so many reasons. He is a fighter who stood up and defeated the evil powers in NJ during the scamdemic.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: trento on February 03, 2026, 11:34:45 PM
My guess is that they will not consecrate anyone above 50.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Giovanni Berto on February 04, 2026, 12:55:53 AM
I was there. I had no idea that the Novus Ordo "Archbishop" and "priests" would be leading the procession on the Feast of the Purification.  Father Purdy and all the SSPX priests and pilgrims followed them around the city praying the rosary which ended in the church of our Lady of Good Success. My stomach dropped when I noticed the table set up for the novus ordo service. I couldn't get out of there quick enough.

Do you live in Quito? Or did they encourage people from other places to go there for this event?
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Michelle on February 04, 2026, 05:07:51 PM
Do you live in Quito? Or did they encourage people from other places to go there for this event?
I went with my son and another friend.  It was an advertised pilgrimage.   My first time flying on a plane.  We had no idea that we would be processing with the no order church.  I was outraged.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Giovanni Berto on February 04, 2026, 05:43:19 PM
I went with my son and another friend.  It was an advertised pilgrimage.  My first time flying on a plane.  We had no idea that we would be processing with the no order church.  I was outraged.

What a dirty thing. They invite people to spend money and travel overseas and when they get there they find themselves in a Novus Ordo service. This is a lack of the most basic respect that should be given to fellow human beings.
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: Incredulous on February 04, 2026, 07:20:28 PM

My guess is that they will not consecrate anyone above 50.

In the following podcast, the Sedes noticed Fr. Pagliarani gave himself (5) months wiggle room and is already wavering on the Consecration date. :facepalm:

They think it could result in 6 to 10 Bishops and will be a healthy exercise for their faithful to discern what is "true-Church".

"Party like it's 1998" (https://www.youtube.com/live/bOJdvI0ve0g?si=DV98ofb4lLPdECnf)
Title: Re: POLL: Will the neoSSPX consecrate a new Bishop?
Post by: St Giles on February 04, 2026, 07:52:27 PM
Shouldn't the holiest priests be first to be considered for bishops, and shouldn't the faithful have the best understanding of who those priests are? Not that the faithful should be trusted since chances are the majority of Catholics are not saintly, but they have the most contact with the priests performing their duties, and the ones who really care about bishops, will likely be the holier of the faithful who care about and recognize the holier priests.

I wonder if they will just consecrate seminary rectors?