Author Topic: Plausible deniability (Read 3766 times)

Matthew · « **on:** May 29, 2014, 03:16:26 PM »

Because of something that's come up in another thread in the Resistance subforum, I wanted to bring up this topic.

What if a priest says something carefully, calculated to create a certain impression, but carefully avoids using certain words? When that mistaken impression is successfully created -- and reported to others -- the priest can truthfully say, "I never said that!" which is the very definition of plausible deniability.

It reminds me of a story in my local paper growing up -- a schoolboy taunted a black classmate with all kinds of language, but he claimed that he avoided using the N word. Sure enough, the taunted classmate punched the student and justified himself to the school authorities that "He called me a N*****!"

Now assuming the schoolboy in question was telling the truth, he nevertheless called him everything BUT that particular slur -- which amounts to the same thing.

Moral of the story: semantics don't matter. It's the substance of what you say that matters.

Ekim · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2014, 03:35:02 PM »

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this have to do with "The Resistance"?

soulguard · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2014, 03:40:54 PM »

:confused1:

JPaul · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:00:46 PM »

Matthew,

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What if a priest says something carefully, calculated to create a certain impression, but carefully avoids using certain words? When that mistaken impression is successfully created -- and reported to others -- the priest can truthfully say, "I never said that!" which is the very definition of plausible deniability.

This is a cut diamond description of the character of the docuмents of the false council, and the method and practice of the conciliar clerics in teaching its error and heresy. Precisely!

Remember subsistit!

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:03:36 PM »

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Matthew,
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What if a priest says something carefully, calculated to create a certain impression, but carefully avoids using certain words? When that mistaken impression is successfully created -- and reported to others -- the priest can truthfully say, "I never said that!" which is the very definition of plausible deniability.

This is a cut diamond description of the character of the docuмents of the false council, and the method and practice of the conciliar clerics in teaching its error and heresy. Precisely!

Remember subsistit!

Exactly!

The Conciliar Church doesn't directly deny Purgatory; they just hold "Masses of the Resurrection" in white and speak about how great the person was. They never mention purgatory, etc.

But if you corner a priest and ask him about the Church's teaching on Purgatory, most will give you a good official line (though some priests have indeed stopped believing in purgatory for example; they are that far gone!)

2Vermont · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:09:26 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: J.Paul
Matthew,
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What if a priest says something carefully, calculated to create a certain impression, but carefully avoids using certain words? When that mistaken impression is successfully created -- and reported to others -- the priest can truthfully say, "I never said that!" which is the very definition of plausible deniability.

This is a cut diamond description of the character of the docuмents of the false council, and the method and practice of the conciliar clerics in teaching its error and heresy. Precisely!

Remember subsistit!

Exactly!

The Conciliar Church doesn't directly deny Purgatory; they just hold "Masses of the Resurrection" in white and speak about how great the person was. They never mention purgatory, etc.

But if you corner a priest and ask him about the Church's teaching on Purgatory, most will give you a good official line (though some priests have indeed stopped believing in purgatory for example; they are that far gone!)

But isn't this similar to what Modernists do per Pascendi?

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:10:43 PM »

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But isn't this similar to what Modernists do per Pascendi?

Yes it is.

In fact, I suspect there might be some Modernists in the Conciliar Church...

:scratchchin:

For that matter, the principles of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ seem to be recognizable in the Conciliar Church.

How odd that the Catholic Church should spontaneously become Freemasonic in her ideals and practices...

I suspect an infiltration, myself.

2Vermont · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:12:13 PM »

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But isn't this similar to what Modernists do per Pascendi?

Yes it is.

In fact, I suspect there might be some Modernists in the Conciliar Church...

:scratchchin:

Just some? lol

Matthew · « **Reply #8 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:15:55 PM »

I mean, what ever happened to Occam's Razor?

If you come home from work on dozens of occasions and find your wife talking to the (ethnic) mailman, and soon thereafter your wife bears a child that is 50% the ethnicity of said mailman...

Do you believe in a complicated, mysterious, spontaneous miracle of DNA mutation?

Or do you believe the most simple explanation, that your wife is committing adultery?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #9 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:36:57 PM »

I think the modernists in the Conciliar Church have now removed all pretenses and are what they always have been - socialist agitators (look at the way the novus ordo always sides with Marxists, that just ain't no accident!)

I think the Conciliar Church is way beyond "mere modernism" now.

stgobnait · « **Reply #10 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:43:56 PM »

Video made them wanna be tv stars.

JPaul · « **Reply #11 on:** May 29, 2014, 07:47:06 PM »

The Jєωιѕн hand was at work from long before they got their council to give the infiltrators pride of place within the Church.

All of the Masonic, Marxist, and of course Judaic principles and methods are now enshrined in the conciliar revolution.

The last watchful pope died at the helm and the ship was then quickly, run aground.

Ekim · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2014, 03:34:23 PM »

Again, what does any of this have to do with "The Resistance"??? "Crisis in the Church" may have been a better place to start this thread.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2014, 03:38:21 PM »

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Again, what does any of this have to do with "The Resistance"??? "Crisis in the Church" may have been a better place to start this thread.

It was loosely in response to this thread:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/A-clarification-and-defense-of-Fr-Johnson-SSPX-from-a-calumny

Ekim · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2014, 03:40:55 PM »

GOTCHA! Thanks