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Offline Incredulous

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SSPX Deathwish post amended
« on: July 02, 2018, 11:00:49 AM »
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    • From Sean Johnson

    Dear Friends-

    A couple days ago, I sent you a news report regarding a June 27 Tweet from Fr. Kevin Kusick, in which he referenced a SSPX priest going on a vocation retreat to the Military Archdiocese.

    In that article, I elaborated on the implications and significance of an SSPX priest joining the Military Archdiocese (i.e., bi-ritualism, etc).

    Towards the end of that article, I held out the possibility that this incredible development could be nullified if it turned out this priest was actually leaving the SSPX for the conciliar Church.

    This morning I received an email response from Archbishop Broglio himself, which seems to confirm this very thing (see below).

    Regrettable as it is to see priests defecting from Tradition for the conciliar church, it is a much better outcome than what would have been implied had this priest planned to remain within the SSPX.

    If this priest has in fact determined to join the conciliar church, as the Archbishop seems to say, then there really is no fault here on the part of the SSPX, even for this priest's attendance at a conciliar retreat (i.e., If he is going to leave, the District is really powerless to forbid him; he can just pack his bags and go).

    It might have been nice had the District clarified the matter once the Military Archdiocese's press release made the matter public, but in any case, it would seem this matter cannot be chalked up to the SSPX's ralliement with unconverted Rome.

    If you have forwarded or posted my article anywhere, please in justice to the SSPX also forward/post this follow-up clarification: 


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    Dear Mr. Johnson,
     
    Father Cannon referred your message to me.
     
    First of all, your characterization of my statement about priests of the two societies in communion with the Holy See and chaplaincy is simply incorrect.
    My statement was that priests in the military must be able to be all things to all people and consequently must be able and willing to celebrate the Mass according to the Third Edition of the Roman Missal.
     
    Secondly, without violating the confidentiality that a priest can expect from any diocese, I can make the following statements:
     
    I missed the detail that the press released contained the names of the dioceses or religious communities of the participants.  Normally that information would not be published.  I regret my error.
     
    It is unclear to me why you need the clarifications you requested.
     
    Finally, the priest in question desires full communion with the Catholic Church.  I have helped many men and some families on that journey and I do not intend to stop now.
     
    Thank you for your interest.
     
    Sincerely in Christ,
    +Timothy Broglio
     
    The Most Reverend Timothy P. Broglio
    Archbishop for the Military Services, USA
    Semper Idem,Sean Johnson
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #1 on: July 02, 2018, 03:26:23 PM »
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    • This would answer my question in the initial post.  The candidate needs two years of experience in a parish.  I suspect that this priest will have to do this first before becoming a chaplain.

    Any priest gone conciliar is a tragedy.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #2 on: July 02, 2018, 03:48:12 PM »
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    • Any True Mass offered by a validly ordained Priest for those putting themselves in harms way is a grace and blessing.  All who serve this nation in uniform desperately need these graces. May there be many, many, more!  [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.870588)]Lex orandi, lex credendi!![/color]
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #3 on: July 02, 2018, 03:55:34 PM »
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    • It appears Bp. Fellay convinced Fr. Kusick there was "no difference" between the neo-SSPX and Conciliarism.



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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #4 on: July 02, 2018, 03:58:31 PM »
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    • For those of you who THINK you know what it is like to be a military chaplain but really have no experience other than what you have dreamed up in your misinformed imagination, Chaplains have a lot of freedom...a lot!  When deployed with a unit for 6-12 months, Chaplains are often the only spiritual advisor for hundreds and sometimes thousands of souls.  There is no one, no one, standing over them to tell them what to pray, how to pray, or how to council those in need.  

    A Traditionally Trained Catholic Priest / Chaplain has the potential to save a lot of souls under his command.  Let us Pray that this is a beam of light and grace in a desperately dark and deprived spiritual desert.
    Fr. Kapaun...PRAY FOR US!
     
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #5 on: July 02, 2018, 04:59:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 02, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
    For those of you who THINK you know what it is like to be a military chaplain but really have no experience other than what you have dreamed up in your misinformed imagination, Chaplains have a lot of freedom...a lot!  When deployed with a unit for 6-12 months, Chaplains are often the only spiritual advisor for hundreds and sometimes thousands of souls.  There is no one, no one, standing over them to tell them what to pray, how to pray, or how to council those in need.  

    A Traditionally Trained Catholic Priest / Chaplain has the potential to save a lot of souls under his command.  Let us Pray that this is a beam of light and grace in a desperately dark and deprived spiritual desert.
    Fr. Kapaun...PRAY FOR US!
     

    Ekim,

    Are you saying neo-SSPX priests will publicly give-up their traditional vows, enlist as newChurch chaplains and when in the field, unleash the Tridentine Mass and traditional Sacraments on our troops? 

    This plan to infiltrate the military with trad priests is rather improbable? 

    If you believe it, then do you think Father Wegner is behind it?

    As the District Superior of the United States, if Father really wanted to help our troops, he'd make a public statement to the effect,
    "No more American involvement in Israeli wars". 
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #6 on: July 02, 2018, 08:30:48 PM »
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    • Inky, I’m saying God Bless any Traditionally trained priest who enters the military to bring those who serve valid and true sacraments.  Think I was pretty clear the first time.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 01:47:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on July 02, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
    This would answer my question in the initial post.  The candidate needs two years of experience in a parish.  I suspect that this priest will have to do this first before becoming a chaplain.

    Any priest gone conciliar is a tragedy.
    It  could be that they will allow his experience in one of the SSPX chapels to count as experience. 
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish post amended
    « Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 01:49:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on July 02, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
    This would answer my question in the initial post.  The candidate needs two years of experience in a parish.  I suspect that this priest will have to do this first before becoming a chaplain.

    Any priest gone conciliar is a tragedy.
    This could be an opportunity for people to experience the TLM who wouldn't ordinarily have that opportunity.
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