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Author Topic: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)  (Read 39213 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #295 on: April 30, 2019, 04:48:30 PM »
Speculations can be accusatory or even libelous.

But they are not inherently so.

Joe Biden is a pedophile:  possibly libelous.
I suspect Joe Biden of being a pedophile:  legitimate suspicion.

People aren't always explicit in differentiating, but everyone knows that when someone says "Joe Biden is a pedophile", it's a suspicion and not a fact.  I can say, "Barrack Obama is gαy" or "Michelle Obama is transgender" without having proof ... as an articulation of my suspicion that he/she is.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #296 on: April 30, 2019, 04:51:59 PM »
Articulating suspicions is not only permitted but sometimes required.  So, for instance, if we see an effeminate priest, we might tell people, "Watch out for that priest ... in case he's a pedophile."  We've had that discussion here before.  People have a right to be cautious and to advise caution for others.  Now, if you were to say, "I know him to be a pedophile." or "He is a pedophile." then you cross a line.

We are with this thread basically saying, "Watch out for Pablo, as there may very well be dark forces in play."  As with the pedophile example, it is not permitted but even required for us to sound the alarm bells.


Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #297 on: April 30, 2019, 04:56:54 PM »
Signs of the times:

A CCCC thread which recounted the subversion and betrayal of tradition takes 6 weeks to publish, and peters out after 11,050 hits in 2.5 months.

Meanwhile, a thread about whether the irrelevant Pablo is a warlock for the equally irrelevant Boston seminary will surpass 11,000 hits in 1/6 the time, and shows no signs of slowing down.

The thread which ought to have set the all-time views record for CI is forgotten or boring; the thread which ought to hold nobody's attention, contrarily, has all riveted to their seats.

Somehow, I think this reflects poorly on us.

It almost suggests we deserve the betrayal of the SSPX, and that the failure of the Resistance to launch is likewise merited.

We are being punished, and we seem to be enjoying it.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #298 on: April 30, 2019, 05:06:02 PM »
Meanwhile, a thread about whether the irrelevant Pablo is a warlock for the equally irrelevant Boston seminary will surpass 11,000 hits in 1/6 the time, and shows no signs of slowing down.

Well, if for one don't think it's irrelevant.  OLMC (Father Pfeiffer, Pablo, etc.) have shredded the moral unity of a Resistance movement.  People point to the OLMC disaster as showing bad fruits, etc.  And some people are directly affected by being stuck in that cult, including some people here on CI and people that others of us here on CI know.

But the reason it's gone on so long is due the fact that MartinChavez won't stop defending Pablo, and matches post for post any and all suspicions articulated about Pablo.  So it creates a long back-and-forth.  Sometimes thread dynamics have more to do with how many people are contesting it than with the importance of the subject.  If someone were to post a thread about Our Lady being immaculately conceived, it might receive one or two or zero responses ... because it's uncontested by anyone and non-controversial.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #299 on: April 30, 2019, 05:12:47 PM »
Speculating that an effeminate priest may be a pedophile, especially in public, can be an act of denigration of character, and can be brought up as a libel situation.

Nope.  Stating that he IS a pedophile might be.