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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #285 on: April 30, 2019, 01:37:51 PM »
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  • Here's what we know.

    FACT -- Dog died.  Dog was burned in a fire pit.

    SPECULATION (without proof) -- Dog killing/burning was part of a Satanic ritual.

    SPECULATION (without proof) -- Dog was poisoned.

    SPECULATION (without proof) -- Dog was poisoned by the neighbor because he hated it.

    SPECULATION (without proof) -- Pablo did NOT poison the dog.

    SPECULATION (without proof) -- Dog killing/burning was NOT part of a Satanic ritual.

    So, Martin, you counter the first SPECULATION above with several of your own.  You counter speculation with speculation, and mistake your own speculations for FACT.  That's why your denials are not credible.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #286 on: April 30, 2019, 01:49:28 PM »
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  • Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #287 on: April 30, 2019, 01:51:09 PM »
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  • I have credible witnesses. The accusation of Satanic animal sacrifice of the dog does not even have a credible, named accuser, let alone any sort of witnesses. It is a baseless accusation, without merit and none who have come forward to support it.

    It's SPECULATION, idiot.  Do you not even understand English?  "Baseless accusation" ... like accusing the neighbor of killing the dog?

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    « Reply #288 on: April 30, 2019, 01:55:17 PM »
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  • Those who lived there during the whole dog situation, who knew why the dog was burned and who made that decision.

    No, that's part of the FACT part that everyone agrees on.  Oh, for crying out loud.

    You resemble your Avatar more and more with each post.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #289 on: April 30, 2019, 01:58:00 PM »
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  • Initially, you categorically stated without proof:  "Pablo did not kill the dog."  Later, in a moment of lucidity, you stated that you considered it "unlikely" that Pablo killed the dog.  Look at the difference between those two statements, the first involves overreach, presenting as fact something you had no proof for, while the second acknowledges that it's your opinion that that you considered it merely unlikely (tacitly admitting thereby that you had no proof).

    You didn't study logic at the Pfeiffer compound, did you?


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #290 on: April 30, 2019, 02:07:08 PM »
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    I can and will doubt stories that conflict with established events and settings,
    Ha ha.  Even though it is only "established" in your own mind, since you weren't there.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #291 on: April 30, 2019, 02:12:15 PM »
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    I clarified my statements, and acknowledged that I must resist the temptation to declare with certainty the events as they have been detailed.
    Thank you for seeing the light.

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    There will always be legitimate room for doubt, especially when dealing with human testimonies. 
    Not necessarily.

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    I do not know for certain that Pablo did not kill the dog, ...
    I do not know with certainty that Pablo did not burn the corpse as part of a satanic ritual...
    You also don't know that the dog was not killed ritualistically BEFORE being burned or even if it was ritualistically tortured (but not killed) and then burned to kill it off.

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    « Reply #292 on: April 30, 2019, 02:14:42 PM »
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    Who am I more likely to believe, a whole group of people who lived in Boston at the time, or a nameless, faceless accuser with nothing but hot air and events that don’t match the eye witness accounts? 
    That's true but that doesn't mean that you asked the right (or all of) the questions needed.  Much of what you testify personally (and know from friends) is probably true, but it's just not the whole story.  We're just picking apart the holes and facts which aren't verified.


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #293 on: April 30, 2019, 02:53:33 PM »
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  • Do you know the difference between speculation and accusation?  Please investigate and then return to this thread.

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    « Reply #294 on: April 30, 2019, 04:35:13 PM »
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  • Speculation is unverified or unsupported notions, whereas an accusation is the allegation of a wrongdoing. An accusation may be speculative.

    Yes, an accusation may be speculative, but speculations are not necessarily accusations.  You're assuming that every speculation is an accusation ... and indeed an accusation rooted in speculation would be unjust.  At best it may be labeled a suspicion.  But you keep claiming that people speculating about various activities are making accusations, when they are not, or, rather, not all of them are.

    Am I ACCUSING Pablo of using witchcraft?  No.  Am I speculating that he might be?  Absolutely.  That's the difference.

    SPECULATION->SUSPICION->ACCUSATION

    So, for instance, we see Joe Biden fondling all kinds of young girls.  He's under suspicion of perversion due to speculation that his motives maybe something other than affection and insensitivity to "private" space.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #295 on: April 30, 2019, 04:48:30 PM »
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  • Speculations can be accusatory or even libelous.

    But they are not inherently so.

    Joe Biden is a pedophile:  possibly libelous.
    I suspect Joe Biden of being a pedophile:  legitimate suspicion.

    People aren't always explicit in differentiating, but everyone knows that when someone says "Joe Biden is a pedophile", it's a suspicion and not a fact.  I can say, "Barrack Obama is gαy" or "Michelle Obama is transgender" without having proof ... as an articulation of my suspicion that he/she is.


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #296 on: April 30, 2019, 04:51:59 PM »
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  • Articulating suspicions is not only permitted but sometimes required.  So, for instance, if we see an effeminate priest, we might tell people, "Watch out for that priest ... in case he's a pedophile."  We've had that discussion here before.  People have a right to be cautious and to advise caution for others.  Now, if you were to say, "I know him to be a pedophile." or "He is a pedophile." then you cross a line.

    We are with this thread basically saying, "Watch out for Pablo, as there may very well be dark forces in play."  As with the pedophile example, it is not permitted but even required for us to sound the alarm bells.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #297 on: April 30, 2019, 04:56:54 PM »
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  • Signs of the times:

    A CCCC thread which recounted the subversion and betrayal of tradition takes 6 weeks to publish, and peters out after 11,050 hits in 2.5 months.

    Meanwhile, a thread about whether the irrelevant Pablo is a warlock for the equally irrelevant Boston seminary will surpass 11,000 hits in 1/6 the time, and shows no signs of slowing down.

    The thread which ought to have set the all-time views record for CI is forgotten or boring; the thread which ought to hold nobody's attention, contrarily, has all riveted to their seats.

    Somehow, I think this reflects poorly on us.

    It almost suggests we deserve the betrayal of the SSPX, and that the failure of the Resistance to launch is likewise merited.

    We are being punished, and we seem to be enjoying it.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #298 on: April 30, 2019, 05:06:02 PM »
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  • Meanwhile, a thread about whether the irrelevant Pablo is a warlock for the equally irrelevant Boston seminary will surpass 11,000 hits in 1/6 the time, and shows no signs of slowing down.

    Well, if for one don't think it's irrelevant.  OLMC (Father Pfeiffer, Pablo, etc.) have shredded the moral unity of a Resistance movement.  People point to the OLMC disaster as showing bad fruits, etc.  And some people are directly affected by being stuck in that cult, including some people here on CI and people that others of us here on CI know.

    But the reason it's gone on so long is due the fact that MartinChavez won't stop defending Pablo, and matches post for post any and all suspicions articulated about Pablo.  So it creates a long back-and-forth.  Sometimes thread dynamics have more to do with how many people are contesting it than with the importance of the subject.  If someone were to post a thread about Our Lady being immaculately conceived, it might receive one or two or zero responses ... because it's uncontested by anyone and non-controversial.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #299 on: April 30, 2019, 05:12:47 PM »
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  • Speculating that an effeminate priest may be a pedophile, especially in public, can be an act of denigration of character, and can be brought up as a libel situation.

    Nope.  Stating that he IS a pedophile might be.