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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #120 on: April 25, 2019, 10:54:39 AM »
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  • Manuel, everyone knows you spent a lot of time at the old Pfeiffer Pit. The problem is that you've lost a lot of credibility along the way and I don't see why anyone ought to trust your ability to provide proof of anything. That's the price you pay. You were there far too long with far too little reason to account for it.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #121 on: April 25, 2019, 11:06:41 AM »
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  • It's docuмented fact that Pablo dabbled with dark forces in attempting to perform exorcisms without the requisite authority.

    We've had another independent poster verify that Pablo requests pictures of people and their families.  What he does with them is unknown.

    His unusual behavior, strange habits, and curious relationship with the Blaszak family are all well attested to.

    And let's not forget Pablo's own words and behavior here on CathInfo back in 2012-2013, before "The Devil and Mr. Hernandez" article became known and Pablo was banned.
    He was proud, spoke often about the devil, sowed confusion among the faithful Catholics in the Resistance, and already had a clear disdain for large swaths of Traditional Catholics.

    Can we not believe evidence from the horse's mouth?

    He spoke of doing "hand to hand combat" with the devil, and also completely embraced the article (The Devil and Mr. Hernandez) which told me everything I needed to know. Just go read that article. That was eighteen years ago! Where did that lead him? Let's just say "I don't want to know." I'll give you a hint: the Catholic Church doesn't forbid dabbling in the demonic for GOOD, CONCRETE reasons -- like avoiding demonic obsession or even possession.

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printView/6418725

    And since his banning in 2013, we've seen plenty of other DOcuмENTED proofs of Pablo's spiritual state, and mindset/orientation. His words have come to us from his own videos on Youtube, his own words published on official media organs of OLMC, etc. For example, his demonic lies about Fr. Voigt. So we can see that he never turned away from the dark path we know (with proof) that he was travelling in 2001. From all the evidence, he is travelling down the same dark path. How far down that path did he, and will he, go? Only God knows.

    But we do know this with the certainty of Faith: In a battle of wits with the devil, none of us can come out on top. The Church knows this. One must only do battle with the devil A) under obedience, B) with the power and authority of the Church behind you as an ordained priest of God and C) with humility.  Pablo was boastfully bragging about fighting the devil on his own as a layman. Complete opposite of points A, B and C.

    Scripture warns us about this explicitly. I leave you with Acts of the Apostles, chapter 19:

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    [11] And God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. [12]So that even there were brought from his body to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the wicked spirits went out of them. [13] Now some also of the Jєωιѕн exorcists who went about, attempted to invoke over them that had evil spirits, the name of the Lord Jesus, saying: I conjure you by Jesus, whom Paul preacheth. [14] And there were certain men, seven sons of Sceva, a Jew, a chief priest, that did this. [15]But the wicked spirit, answering, said to them: Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?
    [16] And the man in whom the wicked spirit was, leaping upon them, and mastering them both, prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. [17] And this became known to all the Jews and the Gentiles that dwelt at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.

    The possessed man *sodomized* that would-be amateur/independent exorcist, leaving him with a bleeding rectum. You don't play "Ghostbusters" with the devil.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #122 on: April 25, 2019, 11:18:55 AM »
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  • My mother gave so much, not only to the seminary, but to each of my brothers and sisters, to others as well.
    I wanted to carry that on in my own actions and choices. I thought I was pleasing my mom and my brother, and doing some good for others in the process.
    I no longer support Boston, and haven’t for a while. I don’t feel the need at this time to explain all the reasons why, though there may come a time to explain everything, in all its docuмented and verifiable (and down to earth) detail.
    The scars from my mother’s death have not healed, and the events of Boston have in many ways prevented these wounds from healing.
    Their time will come...

    I think you need to deal with this, you need to face all of this head-on, as part of your healing.

    You need to admit it was a mistake -- those days and dollars spent in Boston were all wasted, and it would have been better if you had not spent them.

    You need to admit that you -- and your mother and brother -- have been "had" -- that you've all been taken for a ride.

    That's the only way to truly heal from a cult experience. You need to come face-to-face with the truth, be a bit angry about the injustice, do what you can today to help others get out of the cult by going public, and then move on with rebuilding your life.

    If you save EVEN JUST ONE individual from having his life ruined, his vocation ruined, his marriage and/or finances ruined, by avoiding the mess that is Boston, KY, THEN PERHAPS all the time you spent in Boston will have been for something -- even if it cost you dearly. Then all your sacrifices, past and present, will mean something.

    Seriously, man, what are you waiting for?
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #123 on: April 25, 2019, 11:45:31 AM »
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  • You miserable SOB. You had to question my personal reasons for going to Boston.
    I went there to help my brother, and to act as a substitute for my mother, who was slowly dying of cancer, and wanted very much to support her youngest son’s vocation.
    For these reasons, I made my many trips to Boston. These trips cost me, and I am still paying these bills even now. I have to fight the urge to act out in anger at what has been done, and what continues to this day, because of Boston.
    My mother gave so much, not only to the seminary, but to each of my brothers and sisters, to others as well.
    I wanted to carry that on in my own actions and choices. I thought I was pleasing my mom and my brother, and doing some good for others in the process.
    I no longer support Boston, and haven’t for a while. I don’t feel the need at this time to explain all the reasons why, though there may come a time to explain everything, in all its docuмented and verifiable (and down to earth) detail.
    The scars from my mother’s death have not healed, and the events of Boston have in many ways prevented these wounds from healing.
    Their time will come...

    Why wouldn't I? You spent most of your time here slavishly defending the situation. You put yourself out there, you set yourself up as the inside guy, and you time and time again deflected valid criticism against the Pfeiffer crew. But now that I see you have so completely internalized your experience there as being your dying mother's wish for you and taking into consideration all of your remaining financial debts, I absolutely stand by what I said to you about your unreliability on this topic. You're not the only one with family divisions and tragedies and you're not the only one to have invested heavily in something only to come up empty-handed. Your anger is completely misplaced as is your lingering loyalty to Boston.

    Oh, and watch your language. 
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #124 on: April 25, 2019, 12:52:17 PM »
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    I was there for some of the fire pit usage.

    Ok, so you weren't there all the time.  So you're not an expert and are making generalizations.


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    I never witnessed any evil doings there.

    When you were there, which wasn't every time.  More generalizations.



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    I also trust my brother’s eye witness accounts of the fire pit as well. My brother has not lied about or exaggerated the events he has witnessed.
    Was your brother there, every time the fire pit was used?  Or, at least, was he present EVERY time you weren't there?  If not, then he's not an expert either.  


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    As for the hound, I do not remember the exact cause of death.

    Ok, so you can't say that it wasn't possibly sacrificed, can you?


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    I remember other dogs and their causes of death, none of which were diabolical in nature.
    Did you witness every death of every dog (excluding the above hound)?  Or is this just another generalization?

    The point is not to chastise you, Manuel, but to point out your lack of status as an "expert" witness.  You are an eye witness to *some* things but not a witness in MANY other things.  Pablo had many opportunities, outside of your and your brother's watch, to do weird things.  This doesn't prove he did any of them, but it disproves your testimony that Pablo *couldn't* have done them.

    You are basically arguing that you and your brother are Pablo's "alibi", which isn't the case.


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #125 on: April 25, 2019, 01:36:08 PM »
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  • And no offense to Martin, but let's be real here.

    His brother can't have a very strong will. That means easily influenced/controlled/brainwashed/mentally influenced -- and maybe bewitched? He's been at Boston for how many years now, seen how much nonsense, and yet he still persists in staying there. In terms of priestly knowledge OR priestly Orders, he's still no closer to the priesthood than I am. He hasn't spoken up against any of the evils that he must have seen first-hand. He is weak of mind/will and cowardly at best, under the influence of actual witchcraft, or a malicious conspirator at worst. To be charitable, I'm going to assume "A".

    No, I'd say that we can't trust his brother's testimony at all. He's either dim-witted, bewitched, malicious, or some combination of these! At any rate, what we CAN be certain of is that his testimony is quite useless. It wouldn't even take demonic power to control his mind. A mentalist like Darren Brown (who is sodomite and maybe gets some of his power from the devil, who knows) would be able to manipulate a young man like this very easily. Especially when you're in that "top 10% most-susceptible to the power of suggestion" like his brother probably is.

    Anyone who hasn't left or spoken up yet after so many years is completely compromised, whether due to witchcraft, mental dullness, or maliciously jumping on board -- the precise causes are open for debate.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #126 on: April 25, 2019, 03:29:29 PM »
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    So... Pablo only committed animal sacrifices while my brother and I were not there, and while these other, nameless, faceless “eye witnesses” were there? 
    Not what I'm saying.  The facts so far do not prove that Pablo committed any particular act, but they do discount your alibi testimony.  This means that Pablo still had the "opportunity" to act.  Whether he did or not, must still be proven.  There have been many accusations and we must not let a multitude of lies equate to 1 fact (for Christ was accussed by many liars).  There's a lot of circuмstantial evidence against Pablo but that doesn't mean he's guilty.  Posters like Catholicus need to come back and provide more details.
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    I'm still confused why you are defending the indefensible.  History shows that many people are master manipulators and some are genius planners.  You weren't around Pablo 100% of the time.  It's possible that Pablo tricked you; no harm in admitting this.  Smarter men than anyone on this site have been duped by evil geniuses.  St John Marie Vianney was duped by the devil and he was one of the holiest priests who ever lived.  If you can't admit it's possible that Pablo did x, y, or z...simply due to the fact that you weren't around him 24/7, then you're unable to view the situation impartially.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #127 on: April 25, 2019, 04:25:20 PM »
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    I am not defending Pablo from what is true, docuмented and verifiable. He has abused people, misused funds, misrepresented the truth and is more or less a jerk, even to those who have done much to help both the seminary and himself.
    Ok, so you admit that Pablo is an abuser/manipulator, a thief, a liar, and a jerk.  And he acts this way to both friends and enemies of OLMC. 

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    I am questioning what is contrary to what I have seen, and what is contrary to what I have experienced and that which does not fit with what I know and what my brother has explained from his own experiences, and what was told to me by the person who used the fire pit regularly.
    Ok, so you've admitted that your experiences and your brother's are limited, since you've not lived there 100% of the time and your brother was often busy with many tasks.  Will you also admit that the stories you've heard from your "fire pit friend" are second-hand accounts, since you weren't there? 

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    Animal sacrifices do not fit the picture. They seem to be misrepresentations of the events, which appear dubious due to the biases of those who present these second hand accounts.
    What picture do they not fit?  Is it not possible for Pablo (who you admitted is an abuser, liar, thief and a jerk) to commit some quasi-ritualistic act?  How can you trust ANYTHING Pablo has said to you, or represented to you non-verbally, if you admit he's a liar and a thief?

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    I don’t care if you believe either my brother or myself. I am not here to defend the seminary or convince anyone that the seminary is good or that Pablo is a nice guy.
    We believe what you and your brother PERCEIVE to be the truth.  However, you're not omni-present on the property and Pablo is a manipulator.  Do you not see it's possible he manipulated both of you too? 


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    I want the truth to be allowed to thrive and to speak clearly, through the shady accusations of events which lack credibility, or even names and faces who are willing or able to back them up.

    Don’t support Boston. Don’t trust Pablo.

    Don’t believe everything you read, either positive or negative. Question events. Ask for proof. Listen to the answers given and try to be reasonable. 
    How can you simultaneously say to not trust Pablo, yet those who accuse Pablo of evil, (one of which is yourself), you say lack credibility?  This makes absolutely no sense.


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #128 on: April 25, 2019, 05:06:22 PM »
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  • I am insulted constantly, and told I am under a spell ...

    Are you?   :confused:

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    « Reply #129 on: April 25, 2019, 05:08:29 PM »
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  • Pablo is a jerk. That doesn’t make all the accusations credible.

    They are absolutely "credible" ... given Pablo's docuмented history and known personality.  Now, whether or not any given accusation happens to be true, or a misreading of something, or a downright lie ... the jury is out.  Catholicus' testimony sounded sincere.  Now, whether or not he misinterpreted something he saw, that's certainly possible.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #130 on: April 25, 2019, 05:29:31 PM »
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  • The jury isn’t out. Practically everyone here accepted it initially, without question, and when I raised doubts about it, my own sanity was questioned.
    “... under Pablo’s spell...”

    Most of us accepted it as credible.  I still do.

    You did more than just "raise doubts".  You overreached by categorically declaring it all to be false.


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #131 on: April 25, 2019, 05:33:43 PM »
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  • Catholicus admitted that he was reading into the soup incident a possible interpretation.

    Another person independently verified that Pablo asks everyone for pictures of themselves and their family (obviously this COULD be innocuous, and he COULD be meaning to pray for them).  But it's also possible that something nefarious is afoot, something which you cannot prove to be false simply by stating that you haven't witnessed it.

    As for Pablo discouraging the use of St. Benedict's medals, that if true is a big red light.  This could presumably be easily verified by, say, Father Hewko.  Just because Manuel never witnessed Pablo saying something about it, that doesn't prove that he didn't.

    Could you confirm or deny that Pablo does not attend Mass?  In this case, having seen him at Mass would suffice ... even if it doesn't prove that he regularly attended Mass.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #132 on: April 25, 2019, 05:53:31 PM »
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  • Of all the allegations in Catholicus' initial post, the only one that Manuel is in a position to deny is about the contents of his room.  Catholicus stated that he had some nefarious book and some "voodoo" items on his desk.  Manuel denies that the book was on his desk ... but books move.  As for "voodoo" objects, they could simply be personal artifacts, and the purpose for having them and the use he was making of them might not be evident just from seeing them.

    It was afterwards that Incredulus and RevolveBooks both posted that Pablo asks people for pictures of themselves and their families and puts them on the wall purportedly to pray for them.  So two people other than Catholicus testified to that.

    As for everything else in Catholicus' posts, you were in no position to deny them, Manuel.

    You categorically denied it all, but you were not present when these things allegedly took place.  So you actually are not in a position to deny them, and thus your overreach.

    Now could the soup incident have been misconstrued and the origin/nature of the phone calls misunderstood?  Certainly.  Could Pablo actually be using the pictures to help him pray for the individuals in them?  Of course.  My mother does the same thing with the pictures of her children and grandchildren.

    But you cannot prove that these things did not happen, only that at the time you cleaned Pablo's room you did not find anything overtly related to witchcraft in there.  That's it.  Based on that, however, you proceed to deny everything.

    So right now we have Cathoicus' word -- and Incredulus' and RevolveBooks' word about the photos -- vs. your word.  Your unfounded denials have no probative value.  At best you can only say that, well, you found no materials/objects overtly related to witchcraft in his room at the time you cleaned it.  That's it.

    Now, here to me is the best indication that Catholicus was at least sincere in reporting what he thought he had witnessed and/or experienced.  If he were entirely fabricating the stories, he could make up far bigger doozies than a few incidents that are open to interpretation.  He could have said that he found an upside down crucifix on a Rosary Pablo was carrying around, along with a pentagram in his desk drawer.  He could have made up all kinds of things.  So, because he didn't come up with more, this suggests that it's sincere.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #133 on: April 25, 2019, 05:57:21 PM »
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  • To me, the biggest thing that needs to be checked out and can presumably be verified if true is Pablo's insistence that people not wear/use St. Benedict's medals.  And whether or not Pablo attends Mass.  Manuel, have you ever seen him attending Mass?  If so, did he appear devout and prayerful?

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    « Reply #134 on: April 25, 2019, 06:05:44 PM »
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  • Manuel, let's go after the easy pickings first.  Answer the questions about mass and the medals, please.