Author Topic: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post) (Read 34086 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2019, 01:44:25 PM »

Quote from: X on April 23, 2019, 01:42:27 PM

The point being: If Fr. Hewko found it necessary to perform regular exorcisms on the grounds, it would seem to corroborate some of Catholicus’s account.

Incidentally, Fr. Hewko should know better -- he should be extra knowledgeable and alert for satanic influence, since he spent some time investigating a Benedictine vocation. Didn't he spend a couple years at the Silver City, NM Benedictine monastery?

X · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2019, 01:50:09 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 23, 2019, 01:38:38 PM

hahaha... blessing the water every morning during the Lavabo doesn't count, Fr. Hewko. You need to do more than that!

I don't think it has to be a Benedictine priest -- maybe it's BETTER to have a Benedictine bless it, but let's face it, the efficacy comes from the power and prayer of the Church, and the fact that the priest, as an alter Christus, has a certain power to bless objects and expel demons. His words of blessing are basically the words of Christ.

When looked at in this manner, the difference between an SSPX priest, a Dominican priest, and a Benedictine priest blessing the St. Benedict medal is small indeed.

Thanks for the correction regarding the blessing of St. Benedict medals: I found a 1964 instruction which indeed says any priest can bless them. I do not know if the pre-conciliar practice was different or not?

X · « **Reply #47 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:00:06 PM »

Quote from: X on April 23, 2019, 01:50:09 PM

Thanks for the correction regarding the blessing of St. Benedict medals: I found a 1964 instruction which indeed says any priest can bless them. I do not know if the pre-conciliar practice was different or not?

Apparently, the expansion in 1964 of who can bless and exorcise a Benedictine medal was indeed a conciliar novelty. Prior to that, only a Benedictine priest could do so:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fatherjerabek.com/2015/09/03/can-deacons-bless-a-st-benedict-medal/amp/

Based on that, I am going to reaffirm my contention that a Benedictine priest must perform the exorcism and blessing.

Incredulous · « **Reply #48 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:04:38 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 23, 2019, 02:00:58 PM

Pablo may not be a saint, or a good man, but he is not a devil. There have been many reports of diabolic activities, such as with the fire pit and other things, but these stories are not based on reality. They are poor attempts to denigrate those who live at Boston.

They not only distort the truth, they are completely unnecessary in highlighting the many real issues at the Boston compound.

It is better to stick with what can be docuмented and confirmed, than to go off on wild tangents that border on hysteria.

Oh MC, I forgot about you... being under the warlock's spell too

Matthew · « **Reply #49 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:16:11 PM »

X,

Thanks for following up on this. I checked my Trad copy of the Roman Ritual and it puts the matter to rest: in the world of Tradition, the St. Benedict Medal must be blessed by a Benedictine priest.

I stand corrected.

Matthew

Matthew · « **Reply #50 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 23, 2019, 02:15:53 PM

This is why people see Cathinfo as the Traditional Catholic National Enquirer. We have turned the true stories of Boston into the likes of “Mutant Batboy Terrorizes Neighborhood”.

There's one thing you're missing.

Yes, there are verified reports with accompanying evidence, and then there are anecdotes which you actually can't prove even if they were first-hand accounts!
But that doesn't mean all personal anecdotes are worthless.

What factor you are missing: the likelihood of something being true; How well does it fit the known evidence?

Normally, one shouldn't jump to believe that a given man is a warlock making use of witchcraft and spells. But that is because FOR MOST PEOPLE, throwing in witchcraft would be MOST incongruous with the rest of the known evidence and public knowledge about that person. Just for starters, being a Traditional Catholic in good standing!

But everything else surrounding Pablo tends to corroborate, rather than refute, the hypothesis that he is a warlock. In fact, it's about the ONLY explanation for Fr. Pfeiffer's inexplicable behavior, especially his decades-long "attachment" to said Pablo, and his decision to defend him at all costs, even when forced to choose between Pablo and Catholic morality or Pablo and Catholic truth!

I could break into a bullet point list right here of evidence that supports the "Pablo el Brujo" hypothesis. But this would be easy for anyone to do, and I don't have time right now.

So don't try to gaslight us (make us think we're crazy) or write off CathInfo as a bunch of evil and/or naive lunatics. The fact is, we're having this conversation and entertaining the possibility of witchcraft in Boston, KY for very good reasons, based on a mountain of evidence.

You and I both know that if any other person in the Trad world were the subject of such speculation, it would be dismissed and not even discussed. There would be no interest. Those on CathInfo would be the first to dismiss and ridicule it! So please don't kid yourself.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #51 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:39:26 PM »

There are many reasons for Father Pfeiffer’s continued connections with Pablo, none of which have to do with being a wizard, a warlock, or other, similar storybook villains.

The answers are more down to earth, and are far less “mystical”. I’ve been there. I’ve lived it, which is why I don’t buy the stories of dungeons and dragons.

It is also why I think we should not be actively selling those stories, or allowing them to go without scrutiny.

The light of truth need not be bolstered by the tales from the crypt.

Matthew · « **Reply #52 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:39:46 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 23, 2019, 02:15:53 PM

When we go off on these tangents, it reduces the credibility of those things which are verifiable and docuмented. It also turns many away from learning what is truly going on.

How about all the INNOCENTS who are *not* turned away from Boston, and instead have their lives ruined, because they thought Pablo was just a little rough around the edges?
How does such lack of information, such naivete, serve the good of souls? It doesn't.

Matthew · « **Reply #53 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:43:15 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 23, 2019, 02:39:26 PM

There are many reasons for Father Pfeiffer’s continued connections with Pablo, none of which have to do with being a wizard, a warlock, or other, similar storybook villains.

The answers are more down to earth, and are far less “mystical”. I’ve been there. I’ve lived it, which is why I don’t buy the stories of dungeons and dragons.

It is also why I think we should not be actively selling those stories, or allowing them to go without scrutiny.

The light of truth need not be bolstered by the tales from the crypt.

All your literary prose and eloquent wordsmithing and editorializing doesn't change the facts: the devil exists, he has disciples in the present day, and both devil and disciples desire the destruction of souls and the Church upon earth.

Why is it thought a thing incredible, that the devil should wage war on Traditional Catholics? Isn't it common sense that he "has" most moderns in his clutches already? Who is even fighting him and trying to serve God?

You know, the idea of a man rising from the dead is normally CRAZY TALK as well. Resurrection normally doesn't happen. But in the case of Our Lord, it's what happened. God can raise the dead, and there was tons of evidence for Our Lord's resurrection.

If you had been living back then, I guess you'd be a clever wordsmith jew, mocking the resurrection and joking about "zombies" and Christiani - Zee? You'd call for us to all be good Jews, and there's no need for zombie rabbis and undead messiahs. You'd throw out all kinds of clever turns-of-phrase, like any orator or good author -- just as you did above.

Your mocking rebuttal sounds more like a rejection of *any* witchcraft (or "tales from the crypt") charges, rather than a rejection of such stories *in Pablo's case in particular*.

Your Friend Colin · « **Reply #54 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:47:32 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 23, 2019, 02:39:26 PM

There are many reasons for Father Pfeiffer’s continued connections with Pablo, none of which have to do with being a wizard, a warlock, or other, similar storybook villains.

The answers are more down to earth, and are far less “mystical”. I’ve been there. I’ve lived it, which is why I don’t buy the stories of dungeons and dragons.

It is also why I think we should not be actively selling those stories, or allowing them to go without scrutiny.

So then what are the “down to earth” reasons Fr. P is still connected with Pablo?
Also, are you discrediting Catholicus’ experiences as a fraudulent account?

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #55 on:** April 23, 2019, 02:57:05 PM »

I reject the accusations which I know to be false, such as with the animal sacrifices and the fire pit, and more.

I acknowledge as true the accusations of financial chicanery, of the unreasonable demands on those who supported the seminary, of the issues with Bishop Ambrose, the issues with misrepresentation of the seminary and the non-profit status to the faithful and to the government, of the distortions of facts and events, the mistreatment of many who have visited or worked at the seminary, and more.

I do not accept, nor will I promote, those accusations which have absolutely nothing substantial within them.

I have seen Pablo’s “room” at the seminary. I had to clean the bloody place. It is nothing as it has been described here. It is a mess, as he doesn’t care much about organizing his room.

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As a side, I have no problem with going to a Mass offered by Father Pfeiffer, as he is a valid priest. His problems exist outside the sacrifice of the Mass.

I would not recommend that anyone attend the seminary, as it now stands.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #56 on:** April 23, 2019, 03:32:14 PM »

Nobody has said that Pablo IS the devil, but it's clear that he's dabbling in dark things.

He was trying to perform exorcisms without the proper authority, and that opens people up to being taken over by dark forces.

We've heard enough anecdotal testimony of his dealings to clearly back the allegation that he's into the dark arts. That is in fact a very common thing in Mexico, to mix Catholicism with the occult.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #57 on:** April 23, 2019, 03:34:34 PM »

We've had a second person attest to the fact that Pablo collects pictures of people and their families.

We could easily verify by asking Father Hewko if Pablo in fact tried to get people to stop wearing St. Benedict's medals.

Catholicus' testimony sounds sincere.

In any case, you cannot prove the negative simply by stating that you yourself have seen no evidence of it.

There was likely a reason he was called "El Brujo" and "El Diablo". Where there's smoke, there's usually fire ... as in hellfire.

Catholicus · « **Reply #58 on:** April 23, 2019, 03:34:44 PM »

"ManuelChavez!" you have been busy with other things, you can not prove that these things you read here are not true. You can not prove that they're wrong, and Pablo did not do and say things he said to other people..., so you do not need to act as his great defender.
You were motivated to leave for other reasons, each one makes his own experience.
I would advise you to be quiet and to pray instead of judging others to be a liar or having invented things.
God bless

Catholicus · « **Reply #59 on:** April 23, 2019, 03:43:28 PM »

Dear "Ladislaus!"
First of all, do not expect that Fr. Hewko gives an answer or can remember, because under a witchcraft he may not remember “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
Secondly, it is certainly not wise to admit it when you was involved.
BUT it is good to remind him that Pablo said that an exorcist told him that the St. Benedict cross no longer protects against the devils and has lost its power.
I already know how he will answer: that he can not remember, and if he is bewitched he will say that it is not true and he knows nothing about it.
Let us pray for him, may God enlighten him and find peace.
May he be led by God and gain knowledge.

God bless

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