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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #300 on: April 30, 2019, 06:12:06 PM »
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  • Here’s the bottom line:  speculation is defined as an “educated guess”.  It is a projection based on some facts, but is not 100% proveable (at the time).  It is factual that Pablo has messed with lay exorcisms in the past.  It is factual that he has some sort of “diablo” nickname.  It is factual that he knows about curses and such things, because he has accused others (projection?) of being involved.  It is factual that animals are killed during rituals and in strange ways, often burned.  It is factual that, in Boston, animals have died in strange ways, with Pablo’s dog being burned.  It is factual that Pablo is not a practicing Catholic and has stated openly that he dislikes Trads.  It is factual that he is a liar, bully and a cheat.  

    Add all of this up, and it’s valid speculation (with much circuмstantial evidence) that Pablo is involved in witchcraft of some sort.  Doesn’t mean he is, but it’s not wrong to think it’s possible.  

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #301 on: April 30, 2019, 06:59:33 PM »
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  • Signs of the times:

    A CCCC thread which recounted the subversion and betrayal of tradition takes 6 weeks to publish, and peters out after 11,050 hits in 2.5 months.

    Meanwhile, a thread about whether the irrelevant Pablo is a warlock for the equally irrelevant Boston seminary will surpass 11,000 hits in 1/6 the time, and shows no signs of slowing down.

    The thread which ought to have set the all-time views record for CI is forgotten or boring; the thread which ought to hold nobody's attention, contrarily, has all riveted to their seats.

    Somehow, I think this reflects poorly on us.

    It almost suggests we deserve the betrayal of the SSPX, and that the failure of the Resistance to launch is likewise merited.

    We are being punished, and we seem to be enjoying it.

    Sean,

    The dialogue with Martin Dougherty was irrelevant and sucked-up 10 pages of the thread.

    But, a warlock's unchallenged occupation of a Resistance Mass Center and the bewitching of priests and laymen is very relevant to all of us.

    While Bp Fellay takes away 750 priests from Roman Catholic tradition, Hernandez is allowed to raid and scandalize the Resistance. 

    It seems the Resistance bishops are even afraid to confront the problem?

    Hernandez has to be expelled.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #302 on: April 30, 2019, 08:02:05 PM »
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  • The only reason this thread really exploded is because no one expected a defense of Pablo from you in the way you did it. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't have posted at all had that not been the case.

    Martin, I think it's time you let Pablo fight his own battles. CathInfo will be alright, and I don't think there's a court in the country that will take a libel case about witchcraft. The only people who really care or would be concerned here are traditional Catholics. This is primarily an internal issue until someone is willing to press charges over there. If we could get past a handful of posts from you that did not require constant sifting through apparent half statements and strategic omissions, if we could trust you, your input wouldn't be held to so much scrutiny.

    Take a few steps back and look at the bigger picture.

    Putting all your testimony together in a single, comprehensive  and straightforward manner would go a long way to fix that lack of trust. It's kind of tough right now to take your word as it is, now that you're playing El Diablo's advocate with Catholicus' account and everyone else who suspects occult activity (everyone posting here). I don't believe anyone is interested in talking about legal ramifications with a cook/chapel coordinator/journalist who was caught up in it... unless you're planning to do something...
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #303 on: April 30, 2019, 08:05:00 PM »
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  • We cannot play fast and loose with the reputations of others.
    You're missing something. Pablo has no "good name". The reason for the loss of Pablo's good name: Pablo. He is already infamous for many reasons.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #304 on: April 30, 2019, 08:42:50 PM »
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  • Quote
    This is the largest site for the resistance. They come here. They read the stories; the real, the exaggerated, the false. All are given equal weight, as long as it fits the accepted narrative. 

    There have been plenty of people who questioned Catholicus' story and there were some who verified parts of it.
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    Anyone who questions said narrative are insulted and have their characters called into question. 

    All because of some unsubstantiated claims made by a nameless and faceless individual. 
    It's not ALL unsubstantiated.  SOME. OF. IT. IS. TRUE!!  To say it's all unsubstantiated is A LIE!

    For heaven's sake, Manuel, we just went through this 2 pages ago and you're back speaking false generalizations and contradicting yourself.  You are either retarded or dishonest.  Either way, you have no integrity with me.  


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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #305 on: April 30, 2019, 09:36:22 PM »
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  • There have been plenty of people who questioned Catholicus' story and there were some who verified parts of it.
    .It's not ALL unsubstantiated.  SOME. OF. IT. IS. TRUE!!  To say it's all unsubstantiated is A LIE!

    For heaven's sake, Manuel, we just went through this 2 pages ago and you're back speaking false generalizations and contradicting yourself.  You are either retarded or dishonest.  Either way, you have no integrity with me.  

    Haha, I had written a short post, then deleted it because I decided it wasn't my circus. But I saw the same thing. Admission of corroboration, even an apology, then an attempt to brush it under the rug again in closing. Unsubstantiated usually has a negative connotation but I think he knows that. This whole saga has been marked by cagey mental reservation at best and everyone knows it, which is why no one's truth detectors are ever going to be satisfied.

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #306 on: May 01, 2019, 09:55:20 AM »
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  • The defendant is Pablo
    The defense attorney Norm is "whoever tries to defend Pablo"

    Go ahead and skip to 0:37 in the video.  It's only 3 minutes after that -- very funny, and you'll be having deja vu!

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #307 on: May 01, 2019, 10:35:08 AM »
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  • Manuel, I don't see what your problem is.

    No one is "accepting everything" from Catholicus testimony or anywhere else. Some might be quicker to believe anything negative about Pablo than you -- but can you really blame them? It's like the case with Pope Francis. I personally would be inclined to believe *ANYTHING* that made Pope Francis appear as a Communist, heretic, Freemason, etc. because he has outdone himself so many times. Whose fault is that? Mine, or Pope Francis' fault for being such a heretic?

    I will say this -- if it had been posted about anyone but Pablo, it probably would have been immediately deleted by me. Why? Because I don't allow slander and falsehoods on CathInfo. If it were about anyone else, I would have *moral certainty* that it was false. But then again, Catholicus wouldn't have posted it, in this hypothetical.

    Imagine if I turned right onto a busy highway, when the coast was clear. A minute later, several cars speed by that same intersection. Person A notes, "Wow. If you had turned onto the highway just 1 minute later, you would have been in a horrible accident, and you would be in the afterlife RIGHT NOW!" Person B replies, "Not really. If there had been cars coming, I wouldn't have turned onto the highway."

    However, there was nothing in the testimony that rang false or raised any red flags. It all sounded EXACTLY like Pablo. So it needed to stay published, so others could analyze it.

    I know you're concerned about "what will duped cult members think if they read this thread" -- but I'll tell you: as long as they trust Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo, they're not going to believe ANY truth, on this thread, this forum, or anywhere else. 

    There are none so blind as those who will not see!

    I'm not going to change my mind on leaving Catholicus' testimony stay, so please stop being a broken record on that point.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #308 on: May 01, 2019, 10:50:54 AM »
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  • Q talks about how many Americans will REJECT the truth when the truth comes out about countless Deep State swamp creatures: Obama, Hillary, many members of the FBI, CIA, etc.

    Does that mean the stuff they reject is somehow flawed? Of course not. The truth is the truth. It's not the fault of Q and other truth-pushers if people reject it for whatever dumb reason. They reject the truth, they will take the consequences. They will suffer, not us.

    If we need a "halfway house" with a few hand-picked truths couched in gentle language for new converts, an FSSP as it were, then CathInfo is not volunteering for the role.

    If forums were alcohol, CathInfo would be the strongest stuff.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #309 on: May 01, 2019, 10:54:56 AM »
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  • Manuel is laboring under Fr. Pfeiffer's basic assumption, that people are stupid and a Leader needs to tell them everything via propaganda and cult brainwashing.

    I REJECT THIS PREMISE.

    I believe people can sort things out for themselves. They can distinguish between not-yet-proven (a.k.a. "unsubstantiated") claims and those which have been corroborated by multiple sources.

    Only things that are false, or likely false, or suspected to be false, must be censored or deleted right away. There are plenty of things that are "reasonable", "likely to be true", "in accordance with the known facts" for which corroboration or even PROOF are likely to come in the future. These items I will happy let stand on CathInfo.

    We've been there, done with with a huge thread about Ambrose. A huge service was done to the Traditional Catholic world in the process. I'm proud of all the CathInfo members who participated in that thread. They did God's work.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #310 on: May 01, 2019, 11:56:45 AM »
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  • Here’s the bottom line:  speculation is defined as an “educated guess”.  It is a projection based on some facts, but is not 100% proveable (at the time).  It is factual that Pablo has messed with lay exorcisms in the past.  It is factual that he has some sort of “diablo” nickname.  It is factual that he knows about curses and such things, because he has accused others (projection?) of being involved.  It is factual that animals are killed during rituals and in strange ways, often burned.  It is factual that, in Boston, animals have died in strange ways, with Pablo’s dog being burned.  It is factual that Pablo is not a practicing Catholic and has stated openly that he dislikes Trads.  It is factual that he is a liar, bully and a cheat.  

    Add all of this up, and it’s valid speculation (with much circuмstantial evidence) that Pablo is involved in witchcraft of some sort.  Doesn’t mean he is, but it’s not wrong to think it’s possible.  

    You forgot a few things:

    Pablo habitually dresses in all black.
    He habitually wears sunglasses (to cover the eyes, the "windows of the soul")
    Pablo frequently speaks of, and about, the devil -- more than is normal OR healthy
    Pablo has often shown a great disdain for Traditional Catholics (the persecuted, outnumbered, faithful remnant!)
    Pablo has frequently placed Trad Catholics at the same level as, or below, the devil himself.
    Pablo was quoted as saying he practices "Omerta", which is normally associated with the Mafia
    Pablo seems to think about and talk about curses way more than normal; he is quite superstitious at best
    Pablo made a bold, unusual, extraordinary slander against Fr. Voigt: namely, that he had put a curse on his son, causing his son's eventual death.
    Pablo is extremely proud and obsessed with having his will done, which is consistent with how a hypothetical warlock WOULD behave.
    Strange behavior has come out of Boston, KY, especially from two formerly good SSPX priests (Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, Fr. Hewko) -- which is near impossible to explain!
    Speaking of inexplicable behavior, these priests have attacked their former confreres, whom they used to love and support (ex: Bp. Williamson) and simultaneously support various priests with "lavender" reputations like Fr. Tetherow and Fr. Roberts, as well as clear frauds like Ambrose Moran.
    Pablo is currently in complete control of the Boston, KY compound. He controls the communications, websites, finances, and keep in mind that Fr. Pfeiffer recently got control over the family property -- the real estate itself. So Pablo probably has control over that as well.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #311 on: May 01, 2019, 12:32:53 PM »
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  • Long story short,

    If you are fighting a righteous cause, don't worry about speaking the truth -- even if that truth shocks or scandalizes some of those still in error!
    It doesn't matter what the cause is: pro-life, the Resistance, pro-Creation, anti-Feminism, the list is endless.

    The enemies WILL seize on something, true or false, to keep their dupes in line and on THEIR side. Even if you were completely truthful, completely moral, you would NOT leave your enemies with empty hands. They would simply distort, twist, or even outright LIE if that's what it took to keep their followers happily on the other side, against the truth, against you.

    Don't ever forget that.

    It's frustrating, I hear you! But we can't change that. The SSPX is going to keep their parishioners happy. A cult is going to keep most of its members happily inside the cult. And so on.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #312 on: May 01, 2019, 12:35:01 PM »
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  • Again, if some random Pfeifferite is willing to believe Ambrose is not a con man, then nothing I say (or don't say) is going to convince them. They are obviously believing ANYTHING coming from Pablo's (or Fr. Pfeiffer's) mouth at that point.

    It is not OUR job to sugar coat the truth -- much less censor the truth! -- in a vain attempt to wake them up.

    No, those who are thus deceived WANT TO BE DECEIVED. And the consequences of their self-deception will be ON THEM, up to and including apostasy, having their children lose the Faith, etc. It will all be on their heads, for calling good "evil" and evil "good" -- and for calling the truth "lie" and lies "the truth".
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #313 on: May 01, 2019, 12:58:02 PM »
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  • Pablo frequently speaks of, and
    Pablo seems to think about and talk about curses way more than normal; he is quite superstitious at best
    Pablo made a bold, unusual, extraordinary slander against Fr. Voigt: namely, that he had put a curse on his son, causing his son's eventual death.


    Hernandez's slander was "projection".

    Caught Hernandez doing it during his attempt to solicit money for Dom Thomas, which he wasn't authorized to do.

    When questioned, he accused the inquirer of being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?
    Another "projection".

    Warlocks are no joking matter,
    as Martin has yet to learn.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #314 on: May 21, 2019, 12:16:52 PM »
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  • If forums were alcohol, CathInfo would be the strongest stuff.
    If forums were drugs, CathInfo would be crack cocaine.
    If forums were animals, CathInfo would be a lion (or Man, if you want to consider him an animal).
    If forums were depression, CathInfo would be despair ѕυιcιdє.
    If forums were debt, CathInfo would be bankruptcy and homelessness.
    If forums were goodness, CathInfo would be sanctity actual entering into heaven.
    If forums were flight, CathInfo would be flying a spacecraft to Mars.
    If forums were trees, CathInfo would be a Redwood
    If forums were diseases, CathInfo would be a mutated, extra virulent strain of Bubonic Plague
    :-\
    This is a bit melodramatic!  ;D