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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
« Reply #270 on: April 30, 2019, 11:06:13 AM »
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    “They want to be deceived...” can apply to those who supported Catholicus’ accusation as true.
    Manuel, those accusations are PARTLY TRUE and PARTLY unverified.  None of those accusations have been proven false.  Have you not accepted this yet?
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #271 on: April 30, 2019, 11:13:34 AM »
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    • The Sheriff (in my post, a few posts up) symbolizes "laying down the law, putting the kibbosh on something which is unacceptable."

    Whether that something is acrid smoke blowing towards a trailer park, a dog in a chapel with the Blessed Sacrament, or a superstitious, bullying apostate in charge of the formation of seminarians.

    Any excuse which tends to permit these unacceptable things is fluff, lame, and needs to be popped.

    This could be applied to Pablo's ongoing presence at OLMC.

    Fr. Pfeiffer could give excuses: "We don't have enough priests to run the seminary without Pablo. We are often gone to say Mass at mission chapels. We don't have another such volunteer."

    "The Sheriff" would respond: "Ok, no problem. Just shut down your seminary, send the seminarians home, and you can re-open when you have adequate staff (cleric and lay) to run a seminary. Have a nice day!"

    The excuse giver always comes back with a dressed up version of "But I don't wanna!" in a whiny voice. They want their will, even though their desires are for something unacceptable.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #272 on: April 30, 2019, 11:30:47 AM »
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    • The only way these testimonies will ever be sussed out is when the one who testified puts their name to the paper it was written on. We can discuss it all we want but nothing can be sworn to or sworn off. But come on! There are so many warning signs for that place, it's only a question of how sick and evil it has become.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #273 on: April 30, 2019, 12:26:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 30, 2019, 06:48:06 AM
    Okay, please wait Seraphina while Martin checks with his brother Chris, who will go into the rectory to ask his master, Hernandez the warlock the about the accuracy of your details.  :facepalm:

    Indeed, if you got the color of the towels wrong, then you're completely discredited !
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #274 on: April 30, 2019, 12:31:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 30, 2019, 10:14:29 AM
    My questioning and doubting of the accusation became a launch pad for the denigration of my character.

    No, you did not "question and doubt" the accusation.  You categorically denied it without any more proof than Catholicus had to affirm her story.  So it became your word against his.  Your motivation was revealed when you denounced the talk of possible occult practices as "mumbo jumbo" ... as if you don't believe such things exist, and it was clearly on the basis of that bias that you took your position.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #275 on: April 30, 2019, 12:34:06 PM »
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    • Let's playback the dog debate:

    The dumb Dougherty's are delighted to debate whether a dog can be in the chapel or not... a convenient diversion.

    The hound dog video verified an expensive pedigree was on the property.  

    BTW, Hernandez bragged about the pricey dog to the "trads"he hates.

    He bragged because he knew the dog was expensive and the faithful wondered where he got the money to buy it?  Out of the chapel coffers, of course.

    But Then, the poor houndoggy died! Gee, but how?

    The other, mutt breeds on the property were poisoned. Hernandez used to brag about that too.

    But where did they bury poor hound-doggy? We want to visit his grave.

    Hound-doggy was burned in a bonfire and the doggy's ashes ended-up in the chapel faithful' potluck meal.

    :farmer:
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #276 on: April 30, 2019, 12:35:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on April 30, 2019, 06:48:06 AM
    Okay, please wait Seraphina while Martin checks with his brother Chris, who will go into the rectory to ask ...Hernandez ... about the accuracy of your details.  :facepalm:
    Quote from: Ladislaus on April 30, 2019, 12:26:41 PM
    Indeed, if you got the color of the towels wrong, then you're completely discredited !
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #277 on: April 30, 2019, 12:46:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 30, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
    The dog was poisoned by a neighbor who hated the dog, and Bradley burned the body on his own fire pit, not the barbecue pit, which was dug too deep by a seminarian, and later filled in.

    Do you have evidence that this is true? Did you catch the neighbor in the act? Or might Pablo have done the poisoning and then blamed it on the neighbor?
    Come on, your testimony has to be sifted and verified as well. Sauce for the goose is good for the gander...
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #278 on: April 30, 2019, 12:51:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on April 30, 2019, 12:46:52 PM
    Do you have evidence that this is true? Did you catch the neighbor in the act? Or might Pablo have done the poisoning and then blamed it on the neighbor?
    Come on, your testimony has to be sifted and verified as well. Sauce for the goose is good for the gander...
    From my brother, from other seminarians, from Bradley (owner of said fire pit), and from the Pfeiffer children.
    That was Pablo’s dog. It is unlikely that he would kill his own dog. I believe the witness accounts of those at Boston, especially since one or two have no love for Pablo whatsoever.

    But why believe any of us “dumb Dougherty’s”? Right? We’re under the spell of a warlock!
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #279 on: April 30, 2019, 12:59:18 PM »
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    • Manuel said:  "I have accepted that" (i.e. that Catholicus' testimony has not been proven false).
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    Yet the post beforehand, you referred to Catholicus' story as "deceit".  ??  Which is it, Manuel?  Is the story 1) part true and part unverfied or 2) is it deceit? 
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    Please apologize for calling Catholicus' story deceitful, without any evidence.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #280 on: April 30, 2019, 01:01:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 30, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
    Manuel said:  "I have accepted that" (i.e. that Catholicus' testimony has not been proven false).
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    Yet the post beforehand, you referred to Catholicus' story as "deceit".  ??  Which is it, Manuel?  Is the story 1) part true and part unverfied or 2) is it deceit?
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    Please apologize for calling Catholicus' story deceitful, without any evidence.
    I apologize for jumping to a conclusion, without asking questions first, or explaining the many issues I have with the testimony or before stating my objections. 
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #281 on: April 30, 2019, 01:02:13 PM »
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    • Manuel Chavez earlier denying the existence of a fire pit and dog being burned therein:
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    I reject the accusations which I know to be false, such as with the animal sacrifices and the fire pit, and more

    So now you admit that the dog was burned in a fire pit even though earlier you "knew" this "to be false"?

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    Bradley burned the body on his own fire pit

    Is your story evolving?

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    I remember that dog. It died. 

    Pablo liked that dog. He did not kill it, nor was it sacrificed to the gods. 

    I remember the deaths of a few animals, including one dog that was shot by a neighbor, and one that was hit by a car. Another one was killed by an animal trap set up by a seminarian. None of these deaths can be attributed to the demonic. 

    The bonfires were to allow the seminarians to relax after the day, and before lights out. It was not some ritualistic devil worship. It was a fire pit, and nothing more. 

    Some people just want to think the absolute worst of others, and so they turn the smallest things into the greatest evils known to man, as long as it fits their own agendas.

    There are other, more easily docuмented and verifiable issues with Boston. One needn’t meddle with heresay and second-hand rumors from those with an axe to grind. 

    So the dog "just died".  Now you revise it to state that the dog was "poisoned".  You know this how?  Was an autopsy performed?

    You state that they just had bonfires in said "fire pit" for relaxation.

    But now you admit that the dog was burned in said fire pit.

    So a dog dies mysteriously and is burned in the fire pit.

    Your spin was that the dog died of mysterious causes and nothing happened in the fire pit.

    If the dog was poisoned, do you have proof that Pablo did not do the poisoning?
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #282 on: April 30, 2019, 01:30:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: ManuelChavez on April 30, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
    You are spinning the facts.

    I denied animal sacrifices and the burning of animal sacrifices in the fire pit (...”such as with the animal sacrifices and the fire pit”). The dead dog was not an animal sacrifice. I did not deny the existence of any fire pit, nor did I deny that the dog was burned. The man who lived there decided to burn the dead dog, according to my brother, other seminarians and a few of the Pfeiffer children.

    You have misrepresented what I have written.

    Not at all.  You made your earlier statements with deliberate omissions to put your own spin on it.
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #283 on: April 30, 2019, 01:31:37 PM »
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    The dead dog was not an animal sacrifice. ... The man who lived there decided to burn the dead dog, according to my brother, other seminarians and a few of the Pfeiffer children.

    Really, you shouldn't deny anything because you weren't there.  All you have are heresay and second-hand info.

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    You are spinning the facts.
    Your denial is not a fact.  Your brother's story, the seminarian's story and the Pfeiffer children's story are not facts either, because they haven't been verified outside of you.  The only facts are that the dog was burned in a fire pit.  How, when and in what manner?  This is inconclusive.  So it is still possible that the animal was sacrificed earlier and then burned later.  
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    Re: Pfeifferville is a warlock's lair (re-post)
    « Reply #284 on: April 30, 2019, 01:33:58 PM »
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    Otherwise, it is yet another unverified and dubious accusation, and nothing more.
    It may yet be verified, just like Catholicus' story was partially verified later.  Quit attacking stories that you can't prove as false.  Just because a story is not proven true (yet) doesn't mean it's false. 
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