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Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2021, 02:36:51 PM »
And now Fr. Pfeiffer's "good friend", (now) "Bishop Tetherow" adds to the confusion. I heard he was "consecrated" by Macek but it's keep quiet. I heard from one of the families that go to him that they can not tell people. He is on YouTube under "Priests for the restoration of Catholic life" but is not found under his name as far as I know. He recently travelled to Colombia S. America (the homo connection to Newark, NJ) to recruit Novus ordo "priests" who he can now "conditionally ordain" to offer Mass either in the US or Colombia or both.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA4oAa4aF47c6KaeH9ljBdQ

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2021, 03:42:14 PM »
They claim he redid the consecration off camera. I hope he is a real Bishop, rather than having a bunch of invalid traditional priests running around.

Even then there's another problem.  Bishop Webster's priestly ordination came through a line deriving from a man who ...

1) was consecrated by one Clemente Dominguez, of Palmar de Troya fame.
2) was ordained a priest in some Old Catholic sect that may or may not have been valid.

Clemente was an insurance salesman with no training in Latin, and could easily have botched the form ... although the consecrations themselves were witnessed by large crowds and assisted by trained clerics.

But even if he got it right, unless there had been a conditional ORDINATION first, he may or may not have become a valid bishop.  Now, someone produced a docuмent which claims that this priest was conditionally ordained, but I don't know whether it can be authenticated.

Bishop Webster was a good friend of mine before he got ordained and consecrated, so I too hope that he's a valid bishop, but I could not approach his Sacraments given this state of positive doubt.  Whether Clemente got the form right would be negative doubt, but the ordination line is positive.


Offline Cryptinox

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« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2021, 04:04:22 PM »
The simple answer is: He can not ordain seminarians.  End of story!

Well, don't you think, then, that somebody had better dig up that missing record?  If the consecrating "bishop" can not produce a record of his own consecration, then case closed.  
I actually remember someone posting an image of +Webster's consecration a while ago

Offline Cryptinox

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2021, 04:05:20 PM »
Even then there's another problem.  Bishop Webster's priestly ordination came through a line deriving from a man who ...

1) was consecrated by one Clemente Dominguez, of Palmar de Troya fame.
2) was ordained a priest in some Old Catholic sect that may or may not have been valid.

Clemente was an insurance salesman with no training in Latin, and could easily have botched the form ... although the consecrations themselves were witnessed by large crowds and assisted by trained clerics.

But even if he got it right, unless there had been a conditional ORDINATION first, he may or may not have become a valid bishop.  Now, someone produced a docuмent which claims that this priest was conditionally ordained, but I don't know whether it can be authenticated.

Bishop Webster was a good friend of mine before he got ordained and consecrated, so I too hope that he's a valid bishop, but I could not approach his Sacraments given this state of positive doubt.  Whether Clemente got the form right would be negative doubt, but the ordination line is positive.
One might also wonder about Clemente's mental state. 

Offline Matthew

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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2021, 04:09:33 PM »
And now Fr. Pfeiffer's "good friend", (now) "Bishop Tetherow" adds to the confusion. I heard he was "consecrated" by Macek but it's keep quiet. I heard from one of the families that go to him that they can not tell people. He is on YouTube under "Priests for the restoration of Catholic life" but is not found under his name as far as I know. He recently travelled to Colombia S. America (the homo connection to Newark, NJ) to recruit Novus ordo "priests" who he can now "conditionally ordain" to offer Mass either in the US or Colombia or both.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA4oAa4aF47c6KaeH9ljBdQ
What a mess.
Steer clear of that cult, at all costs, if you value your faith. Better to stick with the SSPX than mess around with invalid priests, poorly trained priests, pedophile priests and other "skeletons in the closet", sorcerers, etc.
The SSPX is on the way down, yes, and it's a sinking lifeboat -- but it's not NEARLY that bad. Leaving the SSPX to become a Pfeifferite is a classic case of jumping out of the frying pan and INTO THE FIRE.