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Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 08:04:15 AM
I'm sure you have seen the dinner photographs of Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah.

http://www.facebook.com/maximilian.krah
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Peter Wensierski ist ein exzellenter Journalist. Qualität zählt. Dazu ist er unabhängig, was ich von den anderen deutschen Kirchenreportern - vielleicht mit Ausnahme von Matthias Drobinski - so nicht behaupten würde. Ein unabhängiger, kluger Kopf, dabei korrekt in seinen Methoden - sicher in vielem anderer Meinung als ich. Besser als ein törichter Claqueur. Freund/ Feind-Denken bringt nichts, am wenigsten bei Medienleuten.
Peter Wensierski is an excellent journalist. Quality counts. To do this, he is independent, what I maybe so would say of the other German church reporters - with the exception of Matthias Drobinski-. An independent, clever head correctly in his methods - certainly much disagree as I. Better than a foolish claque. Friend / enemy thinking brings nothing, at least with media people.


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Maximilian Krah Jungs, beim besten Willen, ohne Wensierski und seine Fairness wäre die Piusbruderschaft im Februar/ März 2009 als Bande von Antisemiten statt als konservative katholische Bewegung, die leider ein paar Idioten in ihren Reihen hat, gesehen worden - und damit erledigt gewesen. Nahezu jede Gruppe, deren Anliegen jenseits des katholischen Mainstreams ist, schwört auf den Mann; etwa das (konservative) Netzwerk katholischer Priester. Sicher auch linke Grüppchen. Ihr urteilt hier beide etwas flott, und obendrein auch noch falsch und ungerecht. Ich schätze Peter Wensierski als Mensch und Journalisten, sein Glaube zeigt sich etwa an seiner Verehrung des Turiner Grabtuchs. Er hat als SPIEGEL- und ARD-Reporter in den 1980er Jahren in der "DDR" offen gegen die Kommunisten geschrieben, ist bis heute ein Stasi-Aufklärer und Freund der alten Bürgerrechtler. Ein Mann mit Prinzipien und Charakter. Ich teile seine Ansichten in vielem nicht, aber wir schätzen uns genau deshalb, weil wir Überzeugungen haben. Wir brauchen nicht Freunde, die uns nach dem Munde reden, sondern starke Personen, die uns auch einmal das sagen, was uns schmerzt - selbst, wenn es nicht immer stimmt.


Guys, with the best will, without Wensierski and its fairness would be the Pius brotherhood in February / March 2009 as a gang of αnтι-ѕємιтєs, rather than as a conservative Catholic movement which has unfortunately a few idiots in their ranks, been - seen and thus been done. Almost any group whose Anliegen beyond the Catholic mainstream, swears by the man; as the (conservative) network of Catholic priest. Certainly the group left. Your judges here both somewhat quickly, and on top of that also still wrong and unjust. I guess Peter Wensierski as people and journalists, his faith shows some of his admiration of the Turin shroud. He has written as SPIEGEL-and ARD-reporter in the 1980s in the "GDR" openly against the Communists, is a friend of the old civil rights activist and Stasi reconnaissance until today. A man with principles and character. I do not share his views in many respects, but we appreciate us precisely because we have beliefs. We need not friends who talk to the mouth, but strong who even say us what ails us - even if it is not always true.


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Und nochmal: Ohne SPIEGEL/ Wensierski hätte 2009 Williamson die FSSPX mit in den Abgrund gerissen. Damals war did FSSPX eben transparent, und die Medien haben das transportiert. Du hättest es damals alles vor die Hunde gehen lassen. Man sollte manchmal die Demut aufbringen, die Wirklichkeit auch dann anzuerkennen, wenn sie dem eigenen Denken widerspricht.

And again: without mirror / Wensierski Williamson would have swept 2009 the SSPX in the abyss. At that time did SSPX was very transparent, and the media have transported the. You could leave it at that time everything to the dogs. You should sometimes muster the humility to recognize the reality even if it is contrary to the own thinking
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 08:09:16 AM
Dumb Ox posted this on IA previously.It was then posted here on Cath Info by me.

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Fact 1.
The following words were written by Peter Wensierski:
"The letter makes clear that conflicting positions on Vatican II is 'not decisive' for the future of the Catholic Church. In short, the Society of St. Pius X is no longer demanding that the Vatican II reforms be repealed".

Fact 2.
Peter Wensierski is a friend and close collaborator of Fr. Pfluger and The Crow.

Fact 3.
Bishop Fellay has welcomed and encouraged the close collaboration between Wensierski, Fr. Pfluger and "He who shall remain nameless".

Fact 4.
The level of collaboration and trust between the powers-that-be at Menzingen and Peter Wensierski extends to the level of providing to him the content of private communication between Bishop Williamson and Menzingen for Wensierski to make use of in his journalism.

Fact 5.
It was to Wensierski that the powers-that-be at Menzingen described Bishop Williamson in terms of being "a first class provocateur" who "has always had strange ideas", someone who "exaggerates", someone who "is not a scholar", someone who is "a ticking time bomb", someone likened to "uranium", someone who "doesn't study the docuмents", someone with "Parkinson's Disease", and so on.

Fact 6.
In contrast Fr. Pfluger describes Wensierski as someone who is "honest and upright" and who is "most helpful for the Society".

I am reluctantly forced to conclude that Wensierski has indeed been informed of the content of Bishop Fellay's response to NewChurch and that Wensierski is merely acting in his capacity of being "most helpful for the Society".
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 02, 2012, 08:42:39 AM
Quote from: John Grace
Dumb Ox posted this on IA previously.It was then posted here on Cath Info by me.

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Fact 1.
The following words were written by Peter Wensierski:
"The letter makes clear that conflicting positions on Vatican II is 'not decisive' for the future of the Catholic Church. In short, the Society of St. Pius X is no longer demanding that the Vatican II reforms be repealed".

Fact 2.
Peter Wensierski is a friend and close collaborator of Fr. Pfluger and The Crow.

Fact 3.
Bishop Fellay has welcomed and encouraged the close collaboration between Wensierski, Fr. Pfluger and "He who shall remain nameless".

Fact 4.
The level of collaboration and trust between the powers-that-be at Menzingen and Peter Wensierski extends to the level of providing to him the content of private communication between Bishop Williamson and Menzingen for Wensierski to make use of in his journalism.

Fact 5.
It was to Wensierski that the powers-that-be at Menzingen described Bishop Williamson in terms of being "a first class provocateur" who "has always had strange ideas", someone who "exaggerates", someone who "is not a scholar", someone who is "a ticking time bomb", someone likened to "uranium", someone who "doesn't study the docuмents", someone with "Parkinson's Disease", and so on.

Fact 6.
In contrast Fr. Pfluger describes Wensierski as someone who is "honest and upright" and who is "most helpful for the Society".

I am reluctantly forced to conclude that Wensierski has indeed been informed of the content of Bishop Fellay's response to NewChurch and that Wensierski is merely acting in his capacity of being "most helpful for the Society".



John, that would be "most helpful" to the Bishop Fellay Society.  The Society of  Shoah protection and propagation. They have made friends with mammon and the world. The unfathful but wise steward.

How helpful was he in 2009 to the British end of the Society, when it was under attack?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 08:53:20 AM
Krah mentions how he sees the Society as a conservative Catholic movement and laments the "few idiots in the ranks" of the SSPX. He confirms a major obstacle has been Bishop Williamson.Krah states and I use the English translation "And again: without mirror / Wensierski Williamson would have swept 2009 the SSPX in the abyss."

It confirms that Bishop Fellay knew what he was doing.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 08:59:49 AM
"Discussing politics and Church issues w/ one of Germany's senior journalists: Peter Wensierski — at Restaurant Entrecote."
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Wessex on July 02, 2012, 10:03:14 AM
It is incredible that the Society is now in the hands of such cocky outside operators that are able to bedazzle and influence the fate of established institutions. Undoubtedly, Bp. Fellay wants to be part of the forward-looking conciliar church and feels that getting in with the right kind of people will do the trick, regardless of minor inconveniences like doctrine and a history of anti-modernism. Krah knows the impact of calling someone anti-semitic and using other media-induced misconceptions to change the Society.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Ethelred on July 02, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
Attention traditional catholics:

We keep a wary eye on you!



(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2990/maxmoritz.png)



Grrrrrrrrrrrr!



(1) Where did I get that sneaky and sly photo of him? Header photo of his blog (http://maximiliankrah.wordpress.com/).

(2) Who's the "We" in the heading? It's Max & the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, see the two flags on his blog:

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2074/judaea.jpg)


That's saying it all.

:scratchchin:
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Diego on July 02, 2012, 11:14:51 AM
Expectedly Krah's Facebook page has been scabbed. Who has screen captures?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Elizabeth on July 02, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
This informative  Crow blog should be sent to all SSPX clergy AND staff members.

 :shocked:

Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: morningstar on July 02, 2012, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: Diego
Expectedly Krah's Facebook page has been scabbed. Who has screen captures?


I can see his entire facebook, but I don't know how to do the screen capture thingy.

Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth
This informative  Crow blog should be sent to all SSPX clergy AND staff members.

 :shocked:



I'm not shocked. I recall mentioning on this forum of the scenario of a man in America presenting docuмented facts to a Society priest.  The cleric dismissed it as "internet rumour". Whilst I commend Elizabeth for her noble idea, it is a waste of time sending them the facts.

Even in his excellent letter, Fr Clifton is only angered by events of the past three months.

We can conclude the Society of St. Pius X are going to do nothing about Maximilian Krah. They seem more concerned in establishing who 'William of Norwich' is. I remain disgusted with the SSPX.



Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Elizabeth on July 02, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: morningstar
Quote from: Diego
Expectedly Krah's Facebook page has been scabbed. Who has screen captures?


I can see his entire facebook, but I don't know how to do the screen capture thingy.


google up how to take screen shot on [whatever computer] you are using.

I always forget, but it is easy enough for even me to do-I don't have FB or I'd do it for you.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: morningstar
Quote from: Diego
Expectedly Krah's Facebook page has been scabbed. Who has screen captures?


I can see his entire facebook, but I don't know how to do the screen capture thingy.


google up how to take screen shot on [whatever computer] you are using.

I always forget, but it is easy enough for even me to do-I don't have FB or I'd do it for you.



I could of posted the photographs of him at the Israeli base over a year ago but what was the point? Taking screen shots are a waste of time.

How many will be placed under "holy obedience" like 'Marie Elizabeth' was?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Elizabeth on July 02, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: John Grace
Whilst I commend Elizabeth for her noble idea, it is a waste of time sending them the facts.

Even in his excellent letter, Fr Clifton is only angered by events of the past three months.

We can conclude the Society of St. Pius X are going to do nothing about Maximilian Krah. They seem more concerned in establishing who 'William of Norwich' is. I remain disgusted with the SSPX.





Thanks, John.

I was thinking that the image is more powerful than any "Dear Father" letters could possibly be.

They did it for me.  Seriously, Ethelred's link turned the fire up for me.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Elizabeth on July 02, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
I took 2 screen shots of the Crow.   :light-saber:
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth
I took 2 screen shots of the Crow.   :light-saber:


So? Do you honestly believe he will be removed from his positions? Not a notion of it happening.  
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: morningstar on July 02, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Here is the "religion page" he "likes"...it's listed under his "interests"

The Crow's religion page he "liked" on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Religion/112524688759290)

He has also "liked" a page which displays pornography....for obvious reasons of not scandalizing members I shall not post it here.  He is despicable.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
It's interesting to look again at the note issued at the request of Bishop Fellay in light of recent events.From May 2011

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From the latest GB district newsletter:

IGNIS ARDENS
The Ignis Ardens website states that 'it is a Taditionalist Catholic forum with a pro-SSPX bias... but that 'this forum's support for SSPX is not to be taken as evidence of the SSPX's support for this forum.'
The latter part of this statement is certainly true with regard to Ignis Ardens' involvement to date in a campaign which undermines the authority of the Society's General House.
I refer to the section entitled 'Krahgate,' which, under the cover of anonymity, raises serious allegations against Menzingen's lawyer, Maximilian Krah, and, by extension, against the Superior General himself.
Whilst this file, which apparently originated elsewhere, was recently removed at the initiative of the Ignis Ardens moderator, the damage caused will be much more difficult to repair given the public nature of the internet and the propensity for calumny and detraction to spread.
In this regard Bishop Fellay does not exclude having recourse to judicial process, and this should serve a warning to those who think they can commit public slander via the internet with impunity.
Father Paul Morgan."


No allegations were ever raised against the Menzingen lawyer nor has it ever been stated 'Krahgate' is false.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: morningstar
Here is the "religion page" he "likes"...it's listed under his "interests"

The Crow's religion page he "liked" on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Religion/112524688759290)

He has also "liked" a page which displays pornography....for obvious reasons of not scandalizing members I shall not post it here.  He is despicable.


This was all docuмented and brought to the attention of the SSPX. Krah is on the board of a girls school in Germany.

Very disturbingly, Diego related a scenario of a SSPX cleric claiming not to know who Krah was and we had recently a priest state it was normal for Krah to do this to enhance his career.

The SSPX have been able to "explain away" a very disturbing episode in their Society history.

Whilst it hasn't been confirmed if it indeed it was Fr F Laisney SSPX who said "He is one of our faithful", has any effort been made to remove this Krah?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: John Grace
It's interesting to look again at the note issued at the request of Bishop Fellay in light of recent events.From May 2011

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From the latest GB district newsletter:

IGNIS ARDENS
The Ignis Ardens website states that 'it is a Taditionalist Catholic forum with a pro-SSPX bias... but that 'this forum's support for SSPX is not to be taken as evidence of the SSPX's support for this forum.'
The latter part of this statement is certainly true with regard to Ignis Ardens' involvement to date in a campaign which undermines the authority of the Society's General House.
I refer to the section entitled 'Krahgate,' which, under the cover of anonymity, raises serious allegations against Menzingen's lawyer, Maximilian Krah, and, by extension, against the Superior General himself.
Whilst this file, which apparently originated elsewhere, was recently removed at the initiative of the Ignis Ardens moderator, the damage caused will be much more difficult to repair given the public nature of the internet and the propensity for calumny and detraction to spread.
In this regard Bishop Fellay does not exclude having recourse to judicial process, and this should serve a warning to those who think they can commit public slander via the internet with impunity.
Father Paul Morgan."


No allegations were ever raised against the Menzingen lawyer nor has it ever been stated 'Krahgate' is false.


As stated IA is not even an official SSPX website so perhaps Fr Morgan was under duress when issuing that note. It's more a case of Bishop Fellay and Max not liking what is written about them than allegations been made. IA was obviously meant to be a scapegoat.'Krahgate' remains on Fisheaters and non English language fora so obviously IA were to be made examples of and lamentably they removed the file. I still feel they should have stood their ground against the bullies.

With a difference between legal and lawful, I am of the understanding a request was made to have it removed. If I had been Clare, I would have refused to remove the file and allowed it to go to court. Just my personal view here.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 02, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: John Grace
It's interesting to look again at the note issued at the request of Bishop Fellay in light of recent events.From May 2011

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From the latest GB district newsletter:

IGNIS ARDENS
The Ignis Ardens website states that 'it is a Taditionalist Catholic forum with a pro-SSPX bias... but that 'this forum's support for SSPX is not to be taken as evidence of the SSPX's support for this forum.'
The latter part of this statement is certainly true with regard to Ignis Ardens' involvement to date in a campaign which undermines the authority of the Society's General House.
I refer to the section entitled 'Krahgate,' which, under the cover of anonymity, raises serious allegations against Menzingen's lawyer, Maximilian Krah, and, by extension, against the Superior General himself.
Whilst this file, which apparently originated elsewhere, was recently removed at the initiative of the Ignis Ardens moderator, the damage caused will be much more difficult to repair given the public nature of the internet and the propensity for calumny and detraction to spread.
In this regard Bishop Fellay does not exclude having recourse to judicial process, and this should serve a warning to those who think they can commit public slander via the internet with impunity.
Father Paul Morgan."


No allegations were ever raised against the Menzingen lawyer nor has it ever been stated 'Krahgate' is false.


As stated IA is not even an official SSPX website so perhaps Fr Morgan was under duress when issuing that note. It's more a case of Bishop Fellay and Max not liking what is written about them than allegations been made. IA was obviously meant to be a scapegoat.'Krahgate' remains on Fisheaters and non English language fora so obviously IA were to be made examples of and lamentably they removed the file. I still feel they should have stood their ground against the bullies.

With a difference between legal and lawful, I am of the understanding a request was made to have it removed. If I had been Clare, I would have refused to remove the file and allowed it to go to court. Just my personal view here.


John, this was a glaring example of the new aggressive and worldly policy of Menzingen.  It was unjust and thuggish but, it apparently it worked quite well sending so many scattering and into hiding.  Fearing to even mention the name of Mr. Krah or the enshrouded business dealings of the same and the Superior.

They never had to authenticate the alleged calumys or so called slanders.

So very reminiscent of those well worn tactics of another group of inciting a fear of that group,(read the bible), and a fearful dread of being labeled as having evil intention.  Sort of like being called an anti....something or other.

There is in all likelyhood a smoking gun or key to this whole scandalous drama but it has been made unaccessible due to guile and cleverness.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Wessex on July 02, 2012, 03:14:17 PM
Both IA and the UK district have tried to put a lid on the Krah affair. As long as the lawyer remains a blue-eyed boy of Menzingen, this will remain the case no matter what happens to their home-grown Bp. Williamson. But this revelation has to be a a vivid sign of a big policy change on the part of the leadership. What will happen to the constant mantra of the Society as regards the centuries-old malevolent Judaic and Freemasonic influence on the Church? Will it go the way of Vatican 2 criticism and be watered down until it disappears? Worse, be replaced with new mantra exposing schism and anti-semitism among traditionalists? Krah is leading the way.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 02, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: Wessex
Both IA and the UK district have tried to put a lid on the Krah affair. As long as the lawyer remains a blue-eyed boy of Menzingen, this will remain the case no matter what happens to their home-grown Bp. Williamson. But this revelation has to be a a vivid sign of a big policy change on the part of the leadership. What will happen to the constant mantra of the Society as regards the centuries-old malevolent Judaic and Freemasonic influence on the Church? Will it go the way of Vatican 2 criticism and be watered down until it disappears? Worse, be replaced with new mantra exposing schism and anti-semitism among traditionalists? Krah is leading the way.


You have predicted a most possible future.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 02, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: Wessex
Both IA and the UK district have tried to put a lid on the Krah affair. As long as the lawyer remains a blue-eyed boy of Menzingen, this will remain the case no matter what happens to their home-grown Bp. Williamson. But this revelation has to be a a vivid sign of a big policy change on the part of the leadership. What will happen to the constant mantra of the Society as regards the centuries-old malevolent Judaic and Freemasonic influence on the Church? Will it go the way of Vatican 2 criticism and be watered down until it disappears? Worse, be replaced with new mantra exposing schism and anti-semitism among traditionalists? Krah is leading the way.


The SSPX removed articles on the Jews from their websites. Some articles by Fr Denis Fahey, whom Bishop Tissier and others have regularly encouraged others to read. The writings of Fr Fahey contained an Imprimatur and were never placed on the Index.


Let's not forget what happened to 'Faith Imperiled by Reason: Benedict XVI's Hermeneutics'.  

So nobody should be too surprised at the direction Bishop Fellay was going in. Quite alot of the sermons atleast here in Ireland were very stage managed, preparing the way, spoon feeding type sermons.

A few years ago a priest stationed here brought the SSPX youth group to Rome for a pilgrimage and recently when Cardinal Burke visited Ireland he told a SSPX priest to "keep up the good work". The priest he said this to is pro-agreement.

It was necessary to stab Bishop Williamson in the back because those 30 pieces of Vatican Silver were so appealing. It always disgusts me to sell out your principles to get a deal.



Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: magdalena on July 02, 2012, 11:54:05 PM
It's very unnerving that the SSPX leadership has given him so much power and control.  It will be difficult to wrench themselves from his hold.  He even looks sinister.  But maybe it was just a bad day.
 :shocked:  
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Diego on July 03, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
Quote from: Diego
Expectedly Krah's Facebook page has been scabbed. Who has screen captures?


That should be "scrubbed," but the spell-checker made a substitution I did not notice until too late to edit.

On a Mac Command-Shift-3 and Command-Shift-4 give full screen and selective screen captures respectively. On other PCs "I dunno."
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Telesphorus on July 03, 2012, 02:46:27 PM
What Archbishop Lefebvre said of those who are doing what Bishop Fellay is doing:

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And we must not waver for one moment either in not being with those who are in the process of betraying us. Some people are always admiring the grass in the neighbor's field. Instead of looking to their friends, to the Church's defenders, to those fighting on the battlefield, they look to our enemies on the other side. "After all, we must be charitable, we must be kind, we must not be divisive, after all, they are celebrating the Tridentine Mass, they are not as bad as everyone says" —but THEY ARE BETRAYING US —betraying us! They are shaking hands with the Church's destroyers. They are shaking hands with people holding modernist and liberal ideas condemned by the Church. So they are doing the devil's work.


Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 04, 2012, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: magdalena
It's very unnerving that the SSPX leadership has given him so much power and control.  It will be difficult to wrench themselves from his hold.  He even looks sinister.  But maybe it was just a bad day.
 :shocked:  


Your fears are not without merit. We must acknowledge that the people with whom Mr. Krah are associated are international criminals.  Tel Aviv University is no more than a Mossad front which produces many Zionist operatives at all levels.

It is a hotbed of revolutionaries and intelligence activity. Objectively, this places the SSPX in association with the myriad of criminal activities of these groups. The implications are beyond serious. They are disasterous.

With Mr.Krah placing himself publicly with such approving proximity to a group which has been docuмented to have engaged in murder, assasination, drug trafficking, the sex trade, terrorism, and many other heinous activities, it is entirely baffling as to why Bishop Fellay has not immediately distanced the Society from him.

This is a very grave situation and one which must be forced into the light of day.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on July 04, 2012, 01:06:32 PM
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it is entirely baffling as to why Bishop Fellay has not immediately distanced the Society from him.


I'm not baffled as to why Bishop Fellay hasn't distanced the Society from Krah but am more baffled by the indifference shown by those attending the chapels though being honest what can people do. The SSPX must be more pro-Jєωιѕн than they would like people to believe.Why did they remove articles about Jews and treat a Bishop who told the truth about the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' in such a manner?

I once had an angry phone call because I suggested people were stupid.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 04, 2012, 01:59:59 PM
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it is entirely baffling as to why Bishop Fellay has not immediately distanced the Society from him.


I'm not baffled as to why Bishop Fellay hasn't distanced the Society from Krah but am more baffled by the indifference shown by those attending the chapels though being honest what can people do. The SSPX must be more pro-Jєωιѕн than they would like people to believe.Why did they remove articles about Jews and treat a Bishop who told the truth about the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' in such a manner?

I once had an angry phone call because I suggested people were stupid.


Actually John, ignorant is more accurate. With some it is deliberate, others have been socially re-engineered to the point of manifesting the symptoms of stupid. I think that a lot of the SSPX priests are ignorant of the mentioned realities. I do notice that they as a rule do not mention it.
In all the sermons against the deal, not once has anyone addressed this manifest scandal. There again, another mystery?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 04, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
It would seem that the Germans might be more aware of these things.
Perhaps Ethelred has some knowlege about this.
But then again, the Germans have been pathologically indoctrinated as a nation, in to a psychosis of guilt and selfcritical thinking whereby they may be afraid to even think of such things?
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Ethelred on July 09, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: J.Paul
It would seem that the Germans might be more aware of these things.
Perhaps Ethelred has some knowledge about this.

Dear J.Paul,
Unfortunately Krah and the Krahgate is basically a non-issue for the German SSPX district. There's two main reasons for this, I think:

1. Krah is also the German SSPX district superior Fr Schmidberger's business partner and counsellor, and the Father rules his district in a very harsh way. It's difficult to imagine that the Father would want the Krahgate to be known by his sheep.

(There has been some conflict between Fr Schmidberger and Krah lately because the snob Krah is even "too snobby" for the "also not so humble" Fr Schmidberger, but that's a conflict between "not so humble" persons and not a conflict because of some substantial differences.)

So German readers with no internet will hardly know anything about the Krahgate.

2. The largest German-speaking "conservative Catholic" website named kreuz.net systematically suppresses any posts of their many readers linking to the Krahgate. The Austrian website operators are totally pro SSPX sellout to Newrome. It is also read by a number of SSPX laypeople. Some say kreuz.net is a false-flag operation which is correct IMO.

So German Internet users without knowledge of English will also hardly know anything about the Krahgate.    

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But then again, the Germans have been pathologically indoctrinated as a nation, in to a psychosis of guilt and selfcritical thinking whereby they may be afraid to even think of such things?

Yes, the Germans of the poor "Federal Republic of Germany" (FRG) have.
Now they're in constant fear of being bashed by the h0Ɩ0cαųst lie and the World War lies, which are not only used by the anti-christian тαℓмυd-Jews and their lackeys, but since 2009 also by the foolish SSPX leaders including Bp Fellay, Fr Schmidberger and his liberal Fr Gaudron, a close friend of Krah.

Nonetheless, even ~70 years of pure Jєωιѕн brain-washing couldn't make us Germans to appreciate the anti-christian Jews and their lackeys. Once God removes the Jєωιѕн reign of terror against Germany, USA and other countries, we'll be free again...
However, a conversion of the named nations must come first. I think this in-turn needs a Chastisement from God first.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 09, 2012, 09:44:39 AM
Dear Ethelred,

Thank you for your analysis and for the information which gives ue a more realist view of the situation on the ground there.   I would agree that most citizens have little or no knowledge of Krah. It is a scandal that a religious group would cover for him and his unholy associates.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Telesphorus on July 09, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
May God save the Fatherland from the infidels.
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: JPaul on July 09, 2012, 10:17:39 AM
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May God save the Fatherland from the infidels.


And again!
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: John Grace on November 17, 2013, 01:37:06 PM
A more recent meeting between Krah and Peter Wensierski. On or before 13th November 2013.

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Talk to Peter Wensierski about God and the world


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So, please! He is my favorite Church reporter. I appreciate other opinions, I guess wit and level. It offers everything
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: Frances on November 17, 2013, 02:40:50 PM
 :ready-to-eat: :reporter: Think!  Why are all the photos of Krah eating food?   :dancing-banana:
Title: Peter Wensierski and Maximilian Krah
Post by: stgobnait on November 17, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
did poche take the photo??? !! :smoke-pot: