Author Topic: Padre Chazal Speaks About Bishop Bernard Tissier de Mallerais(SSPX) (Read 17723 times)

Mark 79 · « **Reply #60 on:** October 25, 2024, 08:59:06 AM »

Quote from: RacerX on October 25, 2024, 08:56:16 AM

The religious orders are part of the diocese they belong to, and they are under the local bishop. The bishop invites them to his diocese, and they become part of it. Even though they are not, strictly speaking, "diocesan chapels," they are part of th diocese in which they reside because they were lawfully established therein and remain in legal union with it.…

That is not correct. Only some chapels are under the local ordinary. That is not new.

Quote from: RacerX on October 24, 2024, 09:03:01 PM

… as well as those who publicly adhere to a "chapel" that is not part of their diocese, are exommunicated, …

Again highlighting your deceit.

NishantXavier · « **Reply #61 on:** October 25, 2024, 09:10:24 AM »

I think Bishop Tissier always believed he was being completely faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre and to Tradition and acted accordingly. We wouldn't have had Summorum Pontificuм in 2007 without Archbishop Lefebvre and the 4 bishops of the SSPX asking for it. Now, 5 years later in 2012, Bishop Tissier and the SSPX bishops (and maybe 90-95% of its priests) believed the situation post SP had changed sufficiently that now an "as is" regularization was possible. Thus, Bishop Tissier remained in the SSPX. Wonder if the SSPX will consecrate more bishops soon.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 25, 2024, 09:15:41 AM »

Quote from: RacerX on October 25, 2024, 09:02:26 AM

They are all lawfully established in the diocese, with the approval of the bishop, and they are all legally recognized as such. That isn't the case with any Trad "chapel."

Again highlighting your ignorance of Catholicism.

The more you post, the more you slither.

First you slithered away from "diocese" to hide in "non-Catholic."

Now you slither away from under the authority of the local bishop to hide in "in the diocese."

Of course such religious order chapels are physically "in" the diocesan boundaries. It is typical, but has not been required, that chapels of religious orders be "under" [the authority] of the local bishop. Such chapels are "under" the authority of their religious order superiors.

You are a snake. Slither away from us.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #63 on:** October 25, 2024, 09:20:32 AM »

Quote from: RacerX on October 25, 2024, 09:14:04 AM

How do you know what is in the deposit?

That is the role of the Magistrium. The Magisterium teaches and defines what it in that deposit, and therefore is known as the proximate rule of faith when she teaches definitively.

The Deposit was handed down in two ways: the Scripture and Traditiom. The Protestant said the Scripture (their private interpreation of it) was the only rule of faith, thereby bypassing the Magisterium.

You are doing the same. The difference with most so-called Traditional Catholic is that, instead of appealing to the bible to justify their belief with respect to the Deposit, they appeal to Tradition, the other font of the Deposit.

It is exatly the same error: Private judgment of what constitutes the Deposit of Faith: Protestants claim to adhere to the Bible alone, while rejecting the divinely establishd and infallible interpreter, while Trads appeal to "Tradition," while rejecting its divinely established and infallible interpreter.

You slither again.

Jesus taught nothing in secret (John 18:20), therefore the Deposit of Faith is knowable and known. The knowledge of the Deposit of Faith requires no "judgment," public or private.

I don't have to be a Pope to know the Deposit of Faith.

Only a smear-meister snake conflates knowledge and judgment.

Is there anything you won't do or say to have us assent to your deceits?

It is YOU who sit in judgement. YOU, hypocrite, have no competence or jurisdiction to judge who is schismatic.

Meg · « **Reply #64 on:** October 25, 2024, 10:01:16 AM »

Quote from: RacerX on October 25, 2024, 09:52:24 AM

They aren't just "in" the diocese, they are part of the diocese. They are lawfully erected in the diocese by the lawfully constituted head (the bishop) and they remain legally part of it. Even Protestants are "in" a diocese, but, like the illicitly established Trad "chapels," they are not part of it. Like Trad "chapels," they are non-Catholic sects; or, as the Bible calls them, "sects of perdition."

And yet even pope Francis does not believe that the SSPX, for example, is a non-Catholic sect, even though SSPX chapels are not a part of any diocese.

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Author Topic: Padre Chazal Speaks About Bishop Bernard Tissier de Mallerais(SSPX) (Read 17723 times)

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